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Impressive shooting 7 boar in 12seconds

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭the scudd


    great shot, must get lots of practice. I think he is a prince or some sort of gentry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭daithi55


    saw a dvd about it before think it was aimpoint that made it showing off there scopes and how good they are for driven hunts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭mister gullible


    the scudd wrote: »
    great shot, must get lots of practice. I think he is a prince or some sort of gentry

    Hardly call this hunting. It's unbelievable the hypocrisy that goes on - "don't go for head shots, the animal might move as you take the shot"; "make sure of your shot before you squeeze the trigger"; "respect the animal you're hunting" - then people commend shooting moving animals with a rifle :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Why would one not shoot a moving animal with a rifle if the shots are safe and your skills are up to it ?

    I've personally shot quite a few running foxes with a .22 hornet Anschutz and there's quite some level of satisfaction in lifting your skill level as a hunter up another step or so.

    It seems to be pretty much a fixed idea in Ireland and the UK that rifles should not be fired at moving animals but it's pretty much run of the mill on the continent.

    There's clear distinctions between driven large game hunting with rifles and static high seat hunting where one waits for a shot to present itself, the respective Dutch/Flemish terminology would be "drijfjacht" en "loerjacht".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Hardly call this hunting. It's unbelievable the hypocrisy that goes on - "don't go for head shots, the animal might move as you take the shot"; "make sure of your shot before you squeeze the trigger"; "respect the animal you're hunting" - then people commend shooting moving animals with a rifle :(

    Whatever you might think about taking headshots, the last two "quotes" you cite there are entirely in keeping with the idea of shooting running game. Most people are 100% comfortable with the idea of shooting flying birds with a shotgun. The same principles apply to shooting running game with a rifle. You still need to know distance and lead and shoot well to kill things. It's not done a lot here, though I've known guys who shot a lot of running rabbits with .22s, and with high levels of success, but for a lot of the world it's just the normal thing, and indeed, in lots of European countries, you have to pass a test shooting running target in order to be allowed hunt at all. To me, this is a lot better demonstration of strong marksmanship fundamentals than taking a prone shot at 200 yards off a bipod with a twelve pound rifle and a twenty-power scope. Not saying there's anything wrong with the above either. It works and people kill animals just fine that way, but there's an art and fluidity to running game. Would love a chance to practise it on a range myself. I'd value a forty yard shot on a running animal a lot more highly than any stalked up prone shot. I know which would stick in my memory from a shooting point of view.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭daithi55


    the only way to keep the numbers of boar down is driven hunting
    as you could never shoot enough of them from stalking and high seats
    remember they can have litters of upto ten and prefer very thick cover with wet spots where there very hard to spot
    the only way to expose them is drivin them out
    feeding high seats works on younger animals but the older ones no better as theres no such thing as a free meal as they say... and they would learn there lesson at a young age when a brother or sister got shot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    the scudd wrote: »
    great shot, must get lots of practice. I think he is a prince or some sort of gentry

    Nope.Just the rep /poster boy for Sauer Gmbh.:)
    Nice work if it can be got.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    daithi55 wrote: »
    the only way to keep the numbers of boar down is driven hunting
    as you could never shoot enough of them from stalking and high seats
    remember they can have litters of upto ten and prefer very thick cover with wet spots where there very hard to spot
    the only way to expose them is drivin them out
    feeding high spots works on younger animals but the older ones no better as theres no such thing a s a free meal as they say... and they would learn there lesson at a young age when a brother or sister got shot

    They arent THAT smart.:D
    We have shot plenty of them from tree stands at wallows of all different ages.They are pigs with piggish habits and will gladly root out any free grub ,young or old.What they do have is a very acute sense of smell and hearing.
    And proably the older ones are more attuned to danger signals than the youngsters.
    Also driven shoots like this are only done in Winter as it is impossible to do in any other season with the forest foilage.
    Its also where the dreaded non sporting semi auto idontlikedelookodat assault rifle has firmly established itself as a choice of boar hunters. So much so that Sauer,Merkel,Benelli,Browning are now making semi autos in heavier calibres for boar hunting.

    Yes,running shots with a rifle is a mandatory part of your hunting test. 7/10 or better to pass.There is even a target disipline called "running boar" for you to practise on.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    ....Its also where the dreaded non sporting semi auto idontlikedelookodat assault rifle has firmly established itself as a choice of boar hunters. So much so that Sauer,Merkel,Benelli,Browning are now making semi autos in heavier calibres for boar hunting.

    Yes,running shots with a rifle is a mandatory part of your hunting test. 7/10 or better to pass.There is even a target disipline called "running boar" for you to practise on.

    And not to forget the typical relatively short barreled double rifles with a serious stopper of a round style 8x57 etc etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Or proably the most versatile gun ever built for tha kind of shooting... a Drilling.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭the scudd


    Hardly call this hunting. It's unbelievable the hypocrisy that goes on - "don't go for head shots, the animal might move as you take the shot"; "make sure of your shot before you squeeze the trigger"; "respect the animal you're hunting" - then people commend shooting moving animals with a rifle :(
    if you would take time to watch that lad shooting you will see 9 out of 10 boar are killed with one shot, every man should know his limitations.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭mister gullible


    Stand over my comments. Running game seems to be all about measuring the shooter's skill (and ego and excitement generated). It's not about ensuring a high percentage and humane kill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    The last shot was the impressive one for me. Missed with the first shot, then hit him as he moved through the trees.

    Very impressive.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Stand over my comments. Running game seems to be all about measuring the shooter's skill (and ego and excitement generated). It's not about ensuring a high percentage and humane kill.

    I think this is entirely because we're not used to seeing it. For those who do it a lot, it is high percentage. You've only to watch the video in the OP to see Franz Albrecht turning their lights out (and that's with a .270 win, which a lot of people regard as too small for driven shooting) one after the other. As for the ego issue, same thing drives people to take long shots or difficult shots all the time, because they're confident they can make them. Clearly, for the well practised, running game is entirely realistic, based on exactly the same principles as shooting winged game with a shotgun. If you don't know what you're doing, you probably shouldn't be doing either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    Stand over my comments. Running game seems to be all about measuring the shooter's skill (and ego and excitement generated). It's not about ensuring a high percentage and humane kill.

    Yes it does, I don't think I could do it myself, more down to skill than moral constraints, but as with a lot of shooting its the trigger mans call.

    Shooting is a subjective sport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    The Aussie wrote: »
    Yes it does, I don't think I could do it myself, more down to skill than moral constraints, but as with a lot of shooting its the trigger mans call.

    Shooting is a subjective sport.

    It's kinda like politics though. You put yourself forward and talk about it, you're opened to criticism, and everyone has the right to put their own view forward. All you can do is counter it. It's certainly impressive to see done, but as you said, I've passed up a shot on a running deer. I'm 99% certain she'd have eaten dirt instantly but I'd just not got the last 1% confidence to squeeze through and I let her go. I'd love to get time on a running game range, get practice in and add it to my skillset, because I hunt a couple of places it could be very useful, but right now, I put the rifle up that time, got my sight picture, tracked her and while I'm damn certain I would have killed her cleanly, the thinking box intervened and said no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭The Aussie


    It's certainly impressive to see done.

    I would love to be able to do it competently but life gets in the way :rolleyes:
    I've passed up a shot on a running deer. I'm 99% certain she'd have eaten dirt instantly but I'd just not got the last 1% confidence to squeeze through and I let her go. I put the rifle up that time, got my sight picture, tracked her and while I'm damn certain I would have killed her cleanly, the thinking box intervened and said no.

    I got told years ago the difference between a Deer Hunter and a Deer Stalker is the Stalker knows when the shot is off, it takes more to hold off and try and better ones position than squeeze off an iffy shot.

    It's some shooting in that video, I could not imagine how much time he has spent on that skill, but Kudos anyway Sir...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭meathstevie


    It may sound completely contrary to common perception but it's easier to track and lead a moving target from a standing position at a relatively short distance than it is to hold absolutely still on a static target at a similar distance due to the fact that it's nearly impossible to stand perfectly still with a rifle in the shoulder and maintain a steady aim for longer than a few moments.

    Try the following for a little test; point at a fixed point on a wall with the index finger of your dominant hand aiming and focusing on the fingertip with your arm fully extended while "aiming" with your dominant eye. After a few moments you'll have to continiously correct your pointing.

    Now do the same tracking along a straight line with you finger and you'll find that you can do that in one fluid movement without having to correct your "aim" once.

    Now add the weight of a rifle pulling your upper body down and forward and taking unsupported shots at a moving target may make a lot more sense.


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