NEW SHED IDEAS Needed

vanderbadger

could do with a bit more slurry storage was thinking of maybe knocking part of an old shed next year and putting in tank and shed, here are 2 pics of the current setup, the front part (low roof) was where milking machine was years ago and the 1st column and leanto bay was the milking parlour, the others columns to the left out of shot are calving pens and cubicle house that lead onto newer slatted shed. I was thinking of getting rid of that column and smaller front section seen in pics and maybe putting in a 3 bay open shed with canopy or maybe fully closed in, not sure. is there a better way of doing it without removing that column? Obviously I want to keep cost to a min but at the same time want to do a good job so that why i was thinking of just getting rid of old building
hope that makes some sense

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bob charles

allot will depend on what side of the shed you want to feed from and what direction the prevailing wind is coming from.

vanderbadger

bob charles wrote: »

allot will depend on what side of the shed you want to feed from and what direction the prevailing wind is coming from.

in high up but most of the weather comes from the other side of the front view pic, in other words i was looking west taking the front pic

bob charles

vanderbadger wrote: »

in high up but most of the weather comes from the other side of the front view pic, in other words i was looking west taking the front pic

knock the old parlor house and build a tank outside the foundations of the larger shed. shed faces into the camera of first picture. cut a door into the calving pens and allow a way to bring animals out of slatted shed straight into straw bedding

vanderbadger

bob charles wrote: »

knock the old parlor house and build a tank outside the foundations of the larger shed. shed faces into the camera of first picture. cut a door into the calving pens and allow a way to bring animals out of slatted shed straight into straw bedding

you mean knock the low shed out front and leave hayshed leanto part intact?
ya possible i suppose but it would prob eat up alot of space in yard, behind where i took front facing pic are some stone sheds and behind them is house

bob charles

vanderbadger wrote: »

you mean knock the low shed out front and leave hayshed leanto part intact?
ya possible i suppose but it would prob eat up alot of space in yard, behind where i took front facing pic are some stone sheds and behind them is house

if you havnt got room to put a 20 - 30ft deep shed and adequate yard/feed passage in front of it an alternative site might be a better idea

vanderbadger

bob charles wrote: »

if you havnt got room to put a 20 - 30ft deep shed and adequate yard/feed passage in front of it an alternative site might be a better idea

running out of space around the yard bob and want to tie in with existing calf pens and crush etc which is on right of front pic so would prefer to try and work something at this location, maybe ideally i would just build a leanto off the right side of front facing pic but i havent the width there either unless i build over farm road and go into a field

blue5000

Is the crush to the right of hayshed in top pic, could you put a leanto on that side? Feed at the extreme right, cover crush, use old parlour as calving/ creep straw bedded area?

vanderbadger

blue5000 wrote: »

Is the crush to the right of hayshed in top pic, could you put a leanto on that side? Feed at the extreme right, cover crush, use old parlour as calving/ creep straw bedded area?

ya if you look at that 1st pic you can see a bit of a gate on the right there is yard and crush there that runs the length of shed which is 4 columns, it would be handiest to roof but im restricted at that side as well so it wouldnt be wide enough and i would have to move crush etc

blue5000

Is the roadway and field out to the right? Is the field yours? How many bays is the hay shed?

vanderbadger

blue5000 wrote: »

Is the roadway and field out to the right? Is the field yours? How many bays is the hay shed?

ya main farm roadway and then stone wall and kinda trees or a big drop down to field, wouldnt be ideal to build out that way now , old shed is 4 bays, im thinking of taking that last bay away altogether with small shed out front and doing new shed there

bob charles

vanderbadger wrote: »

ya main farm roadway and then stone wall and kinda trees or a big drop down to field, wouldnt be ideal to build out that way now , old shed is 4 bays, im thinking of taking that last bay away altogether with small shed out front and doing new shed there

if you post up a drawn plan it would be easier to offer expert advice:D very hard to tell whats what in the picture

vanderbadger

bob charles wrote: »

if you post up a drawn plan it would be easier to offer expert advice:D very hard to tell whats what in the picture

ile see what i can do..

vanderbadger

yard layout roughly

nashmach

How about take a span of the round shed and put another shed beside the straw shed or even join it on?

vanderbadger

nashmach wrote: »

How about take a span of the round shed and put another shed beside the straw shed or even join it on?

straw shed not fit to have anything joined on, need to keep that area clear as it entrance to slatted house and i use that area as holding pen also for cattle, cattle come out of slats into that pen and then run thru shed (2nd pic) and out other side into another pen for crush

nashmach

vanderbadger wrote: »

straw shed not fit to have anything joined on, need to keep that area clear as it entrance to slatted house and i use that area as holding pen also for cattle, cattle come out of slats into that pen and then run thru shed (2nd pic) and out other side into another pen for crush

Only other option then is to take a span of the hayshed and build a new shed and tank the opposite way and can you afford to narrow up the entrance to the yard/crush?

vanderbadger

nashmach wrote: »

Only other option then is to take a span of the hayshed and build a new shed and tank the opposite way and can you afford to narrow up the entrance to the yard/crush?

ya so new shed tank would be at 90 degrees to other slatted shed, i think i could fit 3 bays and still have collecting yard before crush, would there be any way to tie an new roof onto the old one or would you leave completely separate?

nashmach

vanderbadger wrote: »

ya so new shed tank would be at 90 degrees to other slatted shed, i think i could fit 3 bays and still have collecting yard before crush, would there be any way to tie an new roof onto the old one or would you leave completely separate?

I'd prefer leaving seperate if it was mine but you may need to leave a 3ft gap between the two.

vanderbadger

these might give a better idea

vanderbadger

maybe go with something like this
http://www.dunvale.ie/index.php?p=1_13

Figerty

vanderbadger wrote: »

maybe go with something like this
http://www.dunvale.ie/index.php?p=1_13

I have that layout with a calf creep area/calving bays at the back with a cattle crush for calving built in..

If you can break away from the existing sheds as go with a fresh build you will probably be better off in the long run. I saw a few neighbours try to make use of an existing shed even digging the foundations destabilised the pillar.. one got very close to collapse.

My advice would be to move away 20-30 feet to have a yard space between the sheds. This allows you to put in gates and outside handling areas for seperating etc.

moy83

Might be a bit drastic but could you dismantle the existing sheds and start again but still using the old tank in your plans ?
There would be no doubt that there would be added cost involved but it mightnt be massive when you consider that you could put everthing in as you want it .
There are always compromises when trying to get old sheds and new to marry up in a way that everything works well especially when space is tight .
Hugo29 might be of some use here ?

vanderbadger

moy83 wrote: »

Might be a bit drastic but could you dismantle the existing sheds and start again but still using the old tank in your plans ?
There would be no doubt that there would be added cost involved but it mightnt be massive when you consider that you could put everthing in as you want it .
There are always compromises when trying to get old sheds and new to marry up in a way that everything works well especially when space is tight .
Hugo29 might be of some use here ?

well the old haybarn type shed doesnt have any tank but it ties in well with the slatted shed beside it as i have cubicles and scraper running into slats, i also have good sized calf creep area and calving pens, the only dead space in the haybarn type shed is the last bay and the smaller old milking parlour out front so thats why i was thinking on knocking the last bay off altogether and starting there with the shed

Figerty

Have a look at Bing maps and get a good plan view of the layout and see where it all fits together.

towzer2010

I don't know if I am missing something but is this a possibility for the new shed and leave the existing ones alone.

vanderbadger

towzer2010 wrote: »

I don't know if I am missing something but is this a possibility for the new shed and leave the existing ones alone.


will put up an aerial pic as someone suggested, no room back there either towzer im afraid

Marooned75

What about move bale storage to behind sheds on left and extend shed out to left hand side were the white bales are stacked does that help

vanderbadger

Marooned75 wrote: »

What about move bale storage to behind sheds on left and extend shed out to left hand side were the white bales are stacked does that help

its a new enough silage slab, id prefer not to ave to dig that out again, its marked on old maps as the site of a castle there where bales are..best left alone i reckon

Marooned75

vanderbadger wrote: »

its a new enough silage slab, id prefer not to ave to dig that out again, its marked on old maps as the site of a castle there where bales are..best left alone i reckon

That's my tuppence worth bagsed so