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stove back boiler solar panels

  • 21-10-2013 11:16am
    #1
    jerryberry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭


    hi guys
    i am currently in process of buying a property...
    i would like to put in a stove with a back boiler...
    would i better off with just open fire and back boiler..
    also i would like to install solar panels for hot water..
    would the panels be a waste of money as i would like to use back boiler...
    also all thats in the house heat wise is an open fire..
    so i would like rads plumbed into boiler..
    question is the stove more or less efficent than open fire..
    had a stove in a previous property and it did not work well it was a complete nightmare never worked properly and never really heated the place..
    so i am apprehensive of installing stove again...


Comments

  • #2
    brianmacg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 ✭brianmacg


    In the same boat as yourself. Really lost on all the options and what's most efficient. Let me know how you get on.


  • #3
    williewarmer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 35 ✭williewarmer


    solar panels are a wate of money. work out the payback time.
    if you are going to to this use a stove and solar panels. i cant see any benifit for the heating system using the solar panels and stove.

    a heat exchanger with oil or gas and the stove. but IMO a heat pump be more efficient with oil or gas.

    put in a stove and oil / gas BOILER and amalgimate the two.


  • #4
    relaxed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 572 ✭✭✭relaxed


    williewarmer wrote: »
    solar panels are a wate of money. work out the payback time.
    if you are going to to this use a stove and solar panels. i cant see any benifit for the heating system using the solar panels and stove.

    a heat exchanger with oil or gas and the stove. but IMO a heat pump be more efficient with oil or gas.

    put in a stove and oil / gas BOILER and amalgimate the two.

    You won't be lighting a stove in July to heat the water, and on a damp and dreary day in December its the solar panels won't be adding much by way of heat, so the stove will take up the slack.

    To me they compliment each other on a seasonal basis.


  • #5
    dathi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,422 ✭✭✭dathi


    an open fire has an efficiency of 15 to 30 % which means 15% heat to the room 85% heats the crows asrse as it goes up the chimney so stay away from an open fire . with stoves the efficiency is usually between 70 and 90% depending on model. so at least 70% of heat stays in house. as others have said solar can provide you with hot water in summer when stove is not lit. but the most important thing to look at first is the levels of insulation you have in your house as it is easier and cheaper to heat a well insulated house than a poorly insulated one and you only have to pay for the insulation once .


  • #6
    jerryberry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭jerryberry


    relaxed wrote: »
    You won't be lighting a stove in July to heat the water, and on a damp and dreary day in December its the solar panels won't be adding much by way of heat, so the stove will take up the slack.

    To me they compliment each other on a seasonal basis.

    exactly what i am thinking....
    stove for hot water when its proper cold outside..
    and panels for hot water when its warm outside..
    A i wont need really hot water for showering and washin in summer..warm water will be fine..
    B house would be roasting if stove needs to be lit in say summer...
    my other reason being i would like to eliminate the use of electric shower and possibly a pump just fitted to hot water feed for showering,,,
    again i am lookin for advice as i am purchasing property that will need revamp..

    any other recommendations/tips more than welcome...
    i am also considering under floor heating to maximise the hot water generated by stove..again i know all this wont be cheap but over lifetime use should cut down my fuel bill..


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  • #7
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    If you go down the underfloor heating route you will need very good insulation and airtightness as it is a low level heat supplied from underfloor. A leaky house would leak the heat as quick as it is supplied to the house.


  • #8
    jerryberry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 ✭jerryberry


    shedweller wrote: »
    If you go down the underfloor heating route you will need very good insulation and airtightness as it is a low level heat supplied from underfloor. A leaky house would leak the heat as quick as it is supplied to the house.

    believe you me the house will be very well insulated..
    i have learnt the hard way from renting in houses that had little or no insulation.
    the underfloor heating will be subject to condition of floor...
    as i am purchasing a cottage many of which are built on a float..no proper foundations en the foundation is the floor with cottages..therefore it will depend on height of room if i can put a new slab of concrete over existing floor..

    underfloor heating may not be an option...

    but again its to get as much use of hot water generated by stove..


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