electric fencer

screcrow

been lurking around here for a while and finally have a question that I couldn't find the answer to that is can I claim back the vat on an electric fencer
as I am in the process of putting an electric fence around the bounds and hopefully going to all paddocks as previously I only use them for the cattle
suckler cows and sheep were block grazed water usually being the biggest problem which will cost a bit to rectify so every penny counts
so hopefully can get the vat back on wire stakes insulators and fencer

delaval

screcrow wrote: »

been lurking around here for a while and finally have a question that I couldn't find the answer to that is can I claim back the vat on an electric fencer
as I am in the process of putting an electric fence around the bounds and hopefully going to all paddocks as previously I only use them for the cattle
suckler cows and sheep were block grazed water usually being the biggest problem which will cost a bit to rectify so every penny counts
so hopefully can get the vat back on wire stakes insulators and fencer

Yes, all fencing, water fittings gates handles etc

screcrow

thanks delaval was worried about the fencer as its costing over a grand

td5man

Afaik You can claim vat back on an fixed equipment and infrastructure.
Digger hire for roadways.

delaval

screcrow wrote: »

thanks delaval was worried about the fencer as its costing over a grand

A good fencer is money well spent. I bought a Gallagher a few years ago €1300 never regretted it. It even came with a gadget to switch it o or off from the field

Brown Podzol

delaval wrote: »

A good fencer is money well spent. I bought a Gallagher a few years ago €1300 never regretted it. It even came with a gadget to switch it o or off from the field

Agree. Get the biggest fencer that you can legally buy. 30 joules output I think. Best money you will ever spend on the farm.

screcrow

i went for the Gallagher 5000 costing 1350 also has the gadget to switch it on or off so hopefully it will be the business
it would be great if I could get vat back for roadways as I have some put in as well but unfortunately I have my own digger and will be digging the road surfacing for them

49801

Make sure you follow the recommendations for the earth system.
The earth is half your fence system!

I put in seven 2m rods this summer for our 25 joule fencer.
Some fair crack off of it now!!!

Farmer

screcrow wrote: »

i went for the Gallagher 5000 costing 1350 also has the gadget to switch it on or off ......

€1350??? Is this the same unit?

screcrow

Farmer wrote: »

€1350??? Is this the same unit?

yes thats the one nearly fell of the chair when I saw the price
I will be calling them in the morning

Farmer

Possibly a mistake though as it's only €60 more that the nearest model

Edit: Having looked at a few other prices on the net, it looks like it's almost certainly a mistake (or somebody's ripping us all off). Sorry for giving you a fright

screcrow

I ordered one from the local co.op on friday evening they will be hearing about it if that is the correct price just seems odd that there is only €60 between a 25 jewel and 50 jewel

shrek008

They seem very expensive,i bought a Cheta G303 for €706 in co-op in thurles,great yoke,30 joules,will do up to 90 miles of wire,im getting 12000 v and have 70 acres fenced so far,burns off all grass and weeds that touch it!

screcrow

ill let you know what happens in the morning you might still make my christmas list

screcrow

shrek008 wrote: »

They seem very expensive,i bought a Cheta G303 for €706 in co-op in thurles,great yoke,30 joules,will do up to 90 miles of wire,im getting 12000 v and have 70 acres fenced so far,burns off all grass and weeds that touch it!

i am not overly impressed with the Cheta as I have three of them one battery and 2 mains the smaller off the 2 is by far the best fencer. i suspected there was something wrong with bigger one for the last few years but they couldn't fix it. but it is dead now transformer looks to be melted on one side think it was the next one down from the 303

st1979

Have you looked at rutland. I got one about 6 years ago and so far so good. Its not as big as you guys are talking but they do this one http://www.rutland-electric-fencing.co.uk/PageProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=600&ReturnToListURL=PageProductList@2Easpx@3FSiteCategoryID@3D21&ProductListTypeName=ZarebaCommon.SiteCategoryProductList,%20ZarebaCommon,%20Version=1.0.0.0,%20Culture=neutral,%20PublicKeyToken=null&IncludeDealersOnly=False&SiteID=2&SiteCategoryID=21

Dampintheattic

screcrow wrote: »

I ordered one from the local co.op on friday evening they will be hearing about it if that is the correct price just seems odd that there is only €60 between a 25 jewel and 50 jewel

But jewels are expensive! -;)

screcrow

I rang them today and they said the fencer is no longer in production and has been replaced by a newer model which he tried to sell me
funny how I can buy it on any web site including Irish web site

jomoloney

st1979 wrote: »

Have you looked at rutland. I got one about 6 years ago and so far so good. Its not as big as you guys are talking but they do this one http://www.rutland-electric-fencing.co.uk/PageProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=600&ReturnToListURL=PageProductList@2Easpx@3FSiteCategoryID@3D21&ProductListTypeName=ZarebaCommon.SiteCategoryProductList,%20ZarebaCommon,%20Version=1.0.0.0,%20Culture=neutral,%20PublicKeyToken=null&IncludeDealersOnly=False&SiteID=2&SiteCategoryID=21

we have 1, not that particural model for over 30 years,

never missed a beat

bob charles

If you want the daddy of a fencer buy this one

http://www.frscahir.ie/proddetail.php?prod=FP835&PEL-835-Mains-Energiser

or look for a Stafix,
http://www.coopsuperstores.ie/shop/farming/farm-hardware/farm-fencing/energizer-fencer-stafix-m36r-384/
the skoda version and better value


I have a couple of Gallaghers and they are just not in the same league

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

I have a couple of Gallaghers and they are just not in the same league

What you really need is an old Elephant fencer.

Best one we have ever had and has been wiped out by lightning once as well

Have a Gallagher here as well and its hopeless - so much so instead of two fencers we are running the whole show with the Elephant with some additional wires across lanes.

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

What you really need is an old Elephant fencer.

Best one we have ever had and has been wiped out by lightning once as well

Have a Gallagher here as well and its hopeless - so much so instead of two fencers we are running the whole show with the Elephant with some additional wires across lanes.

there is a elephant here up in the shelf, havnt ran it in a good number of years. would part with it for a couple hundred quid, before reading your reply I would have offered it for free

jersey101

Have two elephant fencers here. Have a fixed one in the pump house with an earth rod down about 5 ft. Good crack off it and its about 20 year old

nashmach

jersey101 wrote: »

Have two elephant fencers here. Have a fixed one in the pump house with an earth rod down about 5 ft. Good crack off it and its about 20 year old

I'd say our one is closer to 30 years old.

If I was buying new, I'd be buying a Cheeta next time as heard lots of good reports on them.

jersey101

nashmach wrote: »

I'd say our one is closer to 30 years old.

If I was buying new, I'd be buying a Cheeta next time as heard lots of good reports on them.

the neighbour has a cheta you can hear the crack off it if an animal or brier touches it

milkprofit

screcrow wrote: »

been lurking around here for a while and finally have a question that I couldn't find the answer to that is can I claim back the vat on an electric fencer
as I am in the process of putting an electric fence around the bounds and hopefully going to all paddocks as previously I only use them for the cattle
suckler cows and sheep were block grazed water usually being the biggest problem which will cost a bit to rectify so every penny counts
so hopefully can get the vat back on wire stakes insulators and fencer

IN THEORY U FENCER HAS TO BE PERMANENT FIXTURE
CAN NOT BE MOVED --WIRED IN NOT WITH A PLUG

Rho b

nashmach wrote: »

What you really need is an old Elephant fencer.

Best one we have ever had and has been wiped out by lightning once as well

Have a Gallagher here as well and its hopeless - so much so instead of two fencers we are running the whole show with the Elephant with some additional wires across lanes.

Agree nashmach they are super fencers. Although I would recommend that anyone buying an expensive fencer to ensure that it is encased in a secure box bolted to the wall. A friend had a expensive Elephant fencer robbed from an out farm a few years ago.
Here is a link to the Elephant website http://www.elephant.as/index.php
Also if you click on distributors there are two listed in Ireland.
We have two Cheeta's here, one is 30 yo and the other is about 15 yo. Both still working as good as the day that they were bought.