Scoop: Irish go loop-the-loop re poop bloop(er)

Femme_Fatale

http://www.thejournal.ie/south-wales-police-forced-to-apologise-for-operation-irish-name-1135040-Oct2013/

TheChurnal.ie wrote:

POLICE IN SOUTH Wales have been forced to apologise after naming a dog poo education programme “Operation Irish”.
South Wales Police told WalesOnline that it was “regrettable” if any offence had been caused by the name, which was used to educate children in the Llanedeyrn district of Cardiff. Children were being told of the dangers of not cleaning up after their pets.
A local councillor told the website that the choice of the name was “an act of Olympian stupidity”.
A spokesperson for South Wales Police confirmed that the initiative by the Llanedeyrn neighbourhood police team had been named Operation Irish. However, she said that the name was not meant to cause offence.
“This is an educational operation aimed as encouraging dog owners to be responsible. Operational names are randomly assigned to policing operations for administrative purposes. They do not in any way reflect the nature of the police activity or subject matter.
“It would never be our intention to offend and it is regrettable if that is the case.”

This was just a code-word, the way Operation Yewtree is the code-name for a current child abuse investigation. A yewtree doesn't have any connection to child abuse, it's just a random code. Ditto in this case. The rage in those comments is a bit much. And the irony of going on anti Welsh tirades...
It was unwise of them to keep the name, but I really really doubt a police-force in a society as PC as Britain would hold on to the name if they thought it would offend. The insistence that it was deliberate is just stupid.

I know there is silly self loathing among people of this country, but isn't there also another side of the coin: extreme defensiveness of all things Irish? Neither very healthy IMO.

The Big Smoke

*pun overload*

Birneybau

The Big Smoke wrote: »

*pun overload*

Poo overload

wazky

The Big Smoke wrote: »

*pun overload*

Shitebags label poo operation, crappliy?

Birneybau

Shît thread

The Big Smoke

From the comments...

Should've called it operation sheep shagger.

Fitting.

Thrill

The hole thing stinks.

Ace Attorney

Honestly tho, they could have picked a better name to use then irish for a dog shite cleaning up mission codename. How could they not see that using a countries race for a dog shite cleaning up mission wouldnt cause controversy.

A spokesperson for South Wales Police confirmed that the initiative by the Llanedeyrn neighbourhood police team had been named Operation Irish. However, she said that the name was not meant to cause offence.

I'd hazzard a guess that someone in the Llanedeyrn police thought it would be hillarious to name the operation Irish

patty o chair 55

A local councillor told the website that the choice of the name was “an act of Olympian stupidity”.

should that not be 'oylimpian'...

cml387

patty o chair 55 wrote: »

should that not be 'oylimpian'...

Er no. Good first post though,

I would love if stupidity was an Olympic sport. Definitely know a fair few people who would be bringing back gold medals.

RikkFlair

Deleted User wrote: »

I would love if stupidity was an Olympic sport. Definitely know a fair few people who would be bringing back gold medals.

Medal ceremony would have Benny Hill theme tune instead of national anthems.

NoClues

patty o chair 55 wrote: »

should that not be 'oylimpian'...

Strangest post I've seen in my short time here

Mint Aero

Only 2 possible reasons for this:

1: They intended to insult us.
2: They're extremely thick.

Which is it?

Femme_Fatale

Mint Aero wrote: »

Only 2 possible reasons for this:

1: They intended to insult us.
2: They're extremely thick.

Which is it?

Why would they intend it? That's the classic Irish persecution complex. It was just a code-word.
There would be an Operation Welsh here not a bother.

Mint Aero

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Why would they intend it?

What you asking me for?

Do I look welsh to you or something? Where do Aeros come from? Eh...Mint ones, go on...

The Pheasant2

If the Gardaí ever have an operation to educate farmers on the dangers of shagging their sheep I think we'll know what to call it now

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Why would they intend it? That's the classic Irish persecution complex. It was just a code-word.
There would be an Operation Welsh here not a bother.

Do you think they would have called it Operation Iraqi or Operation Syrian ( Operation insert word that has something to do with Muslims) by accident?

MadsL

Rethinking who should be awarded the "Stupid Stick" in next year's British Isles Best Stupidity international competition.

Scotland may vote for Independence yet though and nick it last minute.

anncoates

The Big Smoke wrote: »

*pun overload*

The second one was OK but it was the turd one that did it.

Femme_Fatale

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

Do you think they would have called it Operation Iraqi or Operation Syrian ( Operation insert word that has something to do with Muslims) by accident?

Definitely not, granted! But I still think there's a huge over-reaction.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Definitely not, granted! But I still think there's a huge over-reaction.

By who?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Operation black lesbian disabled dyslexic muslim!!! :pac:

stefan idiot jones

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

If the Gardaí ever have an operation to educate farmers on the dangers of shagging their sheep I think we'll know what to call it now

I think you mean 'make love' to sheep surely ?

I have an 'O' level in it.

Femme_Fatale

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

By who?

The comments to the article. Clowns.

Ace Attorney

Apparently they choose an operation name from a pre approved list of code names

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7288489.stm

Surely there was better operation names to pick rather then "irish"

stefan idiot jones

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

Surely there was better operation names to pick rather then "irish"

Kiwi ?

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

The comments to the article. Clowns.

I suppose but most of them just feel sorta tongue in cheek/bit pissed off more than anything too serious.

I have cousins who are Welsh born to Irish parents and I'm not really comfortable about the way they named it.

Considering the history of prejudice and unfair stereotyping the Irish have received from the British I think they should have thought this through a bit better.

patty o chair 55

cml387 wrote: »

Er no. Good first post though,

NoClues wrote: »

Strangest post I've seen in my short time here

O'Linkey

The Backwards Man

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

If the Gardaí ever have an operation to educate farmers on the dangers of shagging their sheep I think we'll know what to call it now

Gweithredu rhyw gyda defaid

stefan idiot jones

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Gweithredu rhyw gyda defaid

Ddwywaith bob nos.

Skill Magill

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Gweithredu rhyw gyda defaid

Anybody else try to make sense of this by reading it backwards?

Not apt username, not apt.

crockholm

Skill Magill wrote: »

Anybody else try to make sense of this by reading it backwards?

Not apt username, not apt.

Maybe not apt,but I sure would love to have those 2 lads on my scrabble team

stefan idiot jones

crockholm wrote: »

Maybe not apt,but I sure would love to have those 2 lads on my scrabble team

Tri chant a hanner o

Yakult

Should we bomb wales now?

crockholm

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

Tri chant a hanner o

I'm guessing that is either, A) 3 points for the letter "o",
B)You're calling me bad names

Which is it,Johnny Bach and your sospan vach?:p

crockholm

Yakult wrote: »

Should we bomb wales now?

Think I saw a you tube video where they bombed a beached whale once. Not a good idea.

"It's raining blubber,hallelujah,it's raining blubber"

stefan idiot jones

crockholm wrote: »

I'm guessing that is either, A) 3 points for the letter "o",
B)You're calling me bad names

Which is it,Johnny Bach and your sospan vach?:p

Or C) I will get a telling off from a Mod if I translated it.

kupus

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

Honestly tho, they could have picked a better name to use then irish for a dog shite cleaning up mission codename. How could they not see that using a countries race for a dog shite cleaning up mission wouldnt cause controversy.



I'd hazzard a guess that someone in the Llanedeyrn police thought it would be hillarious to name the operation Irish

+1 on the bold bit..........nothing further to add about it. I'm over it.

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Why would they intend it? That's the classic Irish persecution complex. It was just a code-word.
There would be an Operation Welsh here not a bother.

Come on FF, you seem like a clever person, but are you really that naive about life.

RossyG

cml387 wrote: »

Er no. Good first post though,

NoClues wrote: »

Strangest post I've seen in my short time here

He was making a reference to how Daley Thompson joked on The One Show last year that a tattooist who wrote "Oylimpic" must be Irish.

http://metro.co.uk/2012/07/23/daley-thompson-accused-of-racism-over-irish-tattoo-jibe-505709/

Obviously the joke was based on accents rather than illiteracy, but these days people are desperate to be offended so it instantly became a "racism storm".

Mr.McLovin

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461512/Swansea-woman-pictured-defecating-street.html

A woman nightclub reveller has caused outrage after being caught on camera defecating in a city centre street.

The woman, who appears to be in her early twenties, was caught in the act by a mobile phone camera and a disgusting three-minute video was later posted onto Facebook.

It shows another young woman acting as a lookout while her friend lifts up her dress, pulls down her underwear and proceeds to defecate on the pavement.

The shocking incident will raise fresh concerns about the shocking scenes caused by endemic binge drinking in the UK's city centres.

Police were yesterday examining the video and say a criminal offence may have been committed.

The young woman had been out in Swansea, South Wales, when she committed the degrading act in the city’s Princess Way.

seems the welsh police have gotten it totally wrong by accusing dogs too in naming this operation

Savoir.Faire

Ah, the Welsh. An amiable and fun-loving bunch of creatures. I love a weekend in Cardiff for the rugby. I wouldn't let a Welshman (or Welshwoman) run a company though.

rubadub

Thatdoesnt looksafe tome AHHHHHHH wrote: »

Honestly tho, they could have picked a better name to use then irish for a dog shite cleaning up mission codename. How could they not see that using a countries race for a dog shite cleaning up mission wouldnt cause controversy.

I think its odd they had Irish on the list at all, no matter what the operation was you would think they would just not use it. But this is really odd, how many people would have seen this name before final approval, if none of them copped it might cause offence that a serious low level of common sense.

After 9/11 there was an list of songs recommended not to be played, many are OTT and obscure but it just goes to show how much thought does often go into these things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Clear_Channel_memorandum

ruthloss

Savoir.Faire wrote: »

Ah, the Welsh. An amiable and fun-loving bunch of creatures. I love a weekend in Cardiff for the rugby. I wouldn't let a Welshman (or Welshwoman) run a company though.[/QUOTE


I agree, any nation that produced the likes of Shakin Stevens has to be lacking in something. :rolleyes:

Jester252

Maybe in future you don't name operations after ethnic groups. Image how bad it would have been if it was operation Nigerian. The police will be swamped with racist complaints

Paramite Pie

Jester252 wrote: »

Maybe in future you don't name operations after ethnic groups. Image how bad it would have been if it was operation Nigerian. The police will be swamped with racist complaints

There's been more than one Operation Nigeria.

Operation Nigeria - ongoing investigation into the unsolved murder of private detective Daniel Morgan in 1987.

Operation Nigeria, the surveillance of Southern Investigations between May and September 1999, was run by the Metropolitan police's anti-corruption squad CIB3.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/sep/21/privacy

Interestingly, the cases were about both about corruption. We're not the only ones being singled out here with negative implications.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

I wrote to South Wales Police because I have an aunt and uncle who have married Welsh people and have kids over there now.

This is what I sent. Thought the Commissioners name was Peter.

Hey Peter,

I think you should change the title of 'Operation Irish' to something else considering the long history of prejudice that Britain has had with the Irish.

I would love to see if ye were brave enough to name this Operation Iraqi or Operation Syrian. Don't think ye would do that somehow though.


If the Gardaí ever have an operation to educate farmers on the dangers of shagging their sheep I think we'll know what to call it now.


Slan.

This is what I got back.

Dear Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo,

I am the Police Commander for Cardiff and personally write to you in response to your correspondence with South Wales Police (as below).

Thank you for taking the time to express your concerns in writing and giving me the opportunity to personally write a response back;

1. to acknowledge your concerns
2. to offer a genuine apology
3. to explain the actions taken as a result of the concerns and disappointed raised.


I am very proud to serve the communities of South Wales and indeed the communities of Cardiff ; I take personal pride in being in a fortunate position to represent South Wales Police. I take pride in the positive and professional service given by staff and ensure these values are replicated by all under my area of responsibility. However it is important for me to recognise that I do not always get things right and this is none more clear than what has happened on this occasion. Whilst the operational name given to the police activity was randomly selected as part of an administrative function, it is blatantly clear and understood how this has caused offence and been deemed insensitive.

As commander for Cardiff I accept total responsibility for this error and unreservedly apologise. I can now advise that the administrative process has been reviewed across the force area and amendments made to prevent this from happening again.

I have personally addressed this with the support officer and indeed the relevant line managers; I hope to offer some reassurance that each have given serious consideration to the situation and they also offer unreserved apologies for the insensitive name and offence caused.

I trust this personal response goes someway in providing reassurance that I have taken your concerns both very personally and seriously and trust the apology and response is accepted in the spirit it is intended; by no way an excuse or any form of justification but a genuine heart felt apology.

Thank you for taking the time to read this personal response; if I can be of any further assistance please advise.

Yours sincerely,



Belinda Davies

Chief Superintendent/Prif Uwcharolygydd

Eastern BCU/Dwyreiniol BCU

Great success!

Jester252

Paramite Pie wrote: »

There's been more than one Operation Nigeria.

Operation Nigeria - ongoing investigation into the unsolved murder of private detective Daniel Morgan in 1987.

Operation Nigeria, the surveillance of Southern Investigations between May and September 1999, was run by the Metropolitan police's anti-corruption squad CIB3.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/sep/21/privacy

Interestingly, the cases were about both about corruption. We're not the only ones being singled out here with negative implications.

Nigeria is a country not an enthic group. People from Nigeria are Nigerians which is an ethnic group. Like I said if you don't want trouble don't name your police operations after ethnic groups.

keeponhurling

What about "Operation Jew", for the investigation into the Anglo-Irish bank fiasco ?

Paramite Pie

Jester252 wrote: »

Nigeria is a country not an enthic group. People from Nigeria are Nigerians which is an ethnic group. Like I said if you don't want trouble don't name your police operations after ethnic groups.

So your saying it's okay to call it Operation Ireland but not Operation Irish?

Both are just as potentially offensive. Would've made headlines either way.

They should name these operations like Hurricanes. No-one ever gets offended by hurricanes.

Jester252

Paramite Pie wrote: »

So your saying it's okay to call it Operation Ireland but not Operation Irish?

Both are just as potentially offensive. Would've made headlines either way.

They should name these operations like Hurricanes. No-one ever gets offended by hurricanes.

Ireland is a place. Irish is an ethic group. Many different ethic groups exist in Ireland. Operation Ireland wouldn't have been as offensive because it is not aimed at a specific group of people.