IBC tank to small feed store?

Conmaicne Mara

I've an IBC tank with a small hole in it :rolleyes: I was thinking of bringing it back to the fella I bought it off, may still do. Unless anyone has any ideas on how it could easily be transformed into a small feed store for remote location. Fashioning and weather proofing a door would be my main issue, any thoughts or links? Would be keeping 25kg bags of ewe & lamb ration in it in Spring.

Sam Kade

Putting in a remote location could draw rats and they will chew their way through it. I did it with a coal bunker they chewed their way into it and made a nice job of the bags of feed :mad:

Conmaicne Mara

Done it with blue barrels before and it was fine. Admittedly there were no holes in the BB's. I have a large bucket of rodex and pipe available for roland. I would have it up off the ground too.

Sharpshooter82

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I've an IBC tank with a small hole in it :rolleyes: I was thinking of bringing it back to the fella I bought it off, may still do. Unless anyone has any ideas on how it could easily be transformed into a small feed store for remote location. Fashioning and weather proofing a door would be my main issue, any thoughts or links? Would be keeping 25kg bags of ewe & lamb ration in it in Spring.

I'm going down that route too. Just going to slice the top off it and store it in the shed with a heavy cover on it till I figure out how to but a door/ lid on it

Rho b

Safely bait up the remote location for a couple of weeks if you can before installing the tank.
Put the tank on a stand - 2 to 3 foot if you can. Bait underneath with caution to avoid livestock having a nibble - surround/place it behind an electric fence.
TBH I cannot understand why you would want to return it to the guy you got if from.
IBC tanks are manufactured to accommodate liquid or free flowing granules.
Why did you buy it ????
Maybe you should have purchased a small shed from your local garden centre

Rho b

Safely bait up the remote location for a couple of weeks if you can before installing the tank.
Put the tank on a stand - 2 to 3 foot if you can. Bait underneath with caution to avoid livestock having a nibble - surround/place it behind an electric fence.
TBH I cannot understand why you would want to return it to the guy you got if from.
IBC tanks are manufactured to accommodate liquid or free flowing granules.
Why did you buy it ????
Maybe you should have purchased a small shed from your local garden centre

49801

Off topic but I just love this idea on dd for turning an ibc into a calf hutch
http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarming-for-sale/ibc-tanks-and-calf-hutch-for-sale/5660073

If your planning on using it for bags just cut one side off and put a set of hinges on and a latch. Leave the the top intact.

Sharpshooter82

49801 wrote: »

Off topic but I just love this idea on dd for turning an ibc into a calf hutch
http://www.donedeal.ie/otherfarming-for-sale/ibc-tanks-and-calf-hutch-for-sale/5660073

If your planning on using it for bags just cut one side off and put a set of hinges on and a latch. Leave the the top intact.

Bloody clever idea that, I'm gonna fill he tank with loose ration so have to take top off it

Dampintheattic

I use 40 gallon steel barrels, with the removable tops. Seven barrels will take one ton of nuts. Cut the bags and pour in. Clip the top back on. Weather and rat proof.

Conmaicne Mara

Rho b wrote: »

TBH I cannot understand why you would want to return it to the guy you got if from.

Because there is a hole in it.

IBC tanks are manufactured to accommodate liquid or free flowing granules.
Why did you buy it ????

To hold water.

Maybe you should have purchased a small shed from your local garden centre

Garden sheds aren't designed to hold water, on purpose anyway.

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Conmaicne Mara

49801 wrote: »

If your planning on using it for bags just cut one side off and put a set of hinges on and a latch. Leave the the top intact.

That's my thinking alright, I wonder could that "door" be sealed in any way as to stop water getting in around the cut where there'd naturally be some little space where the cut would be made.

Talked to the seller today, apparently it's "not his problem". So, I figure my future money will also not be his problem.

Sharpshooter82

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

That's my thinking alright, I wonder could that "door" be sealed in any way as to stop water getting in around the cut where there'd naturally be some little space where the cut would be made.

Talked to the seller today, apparently it's "not his problem". So, I figure my future money will also not be his problem.

Take the money else where lad

moy83

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

That's my thinking alright, I wonder could that "door" be sealed in any way as to stop water getting in around the cut where there'd naturally be some little space where the cut would be made.

Talked to the seller today, apparently it's "not his problem". So, I figure my future money will also not be his problem.

You could screw a four inch strip of plastic over one side of the joint that would sit over it and stop water getting down IYKWIM .

pachanco

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Unless anyone has any ideas on how it could easily be transformed into a small feed store for remote location. Fashioning and weather proofing a door would be my main issue, any thoughts or links? Would be keeping 25kg bags of ewe & lamb ration in it in Spring.

Here's my suggestion, might be more effort than you're willing to put in, as you've stated you're looking for an easy transformation. Also you would need a 210 litre steel oil barrel with a lid and clamp (Perhaps one used for apple juice would be better actually) as there is cutting involved) and a tube of silicone and some nuts,bolts and washers, drill and bit, lump hammer, vice grips, black marker,knife,file, angle grinder. (Mister maker eat your heart out):)

Link to image of apple juice barrel type. DON'T USE ONE PREVIOUSLY USED FOR STORING OIL (Flamable, sparks etc.)

http://listhd.com/Construction/listings/18599/Open-and-closed-top-55-gallon,-very-clean,-metal-and-HDPE-barrels-or-drums.html

So anyway make sure the the apple juice drum is well cleaned out. You cut the top, say 12 inches off with an angle grinder; actually there are lines on the barrels so you could just cut along the line. Before you make the cut, take the lid clamp and put it four inches above the line your going to cut and mark out a line with a black marker.

So cut off the top 12 inches off the barrel. File the edge. I'm sure you will find a use for the bottom part of the barrel. This barrel top with lid and clamp is going to be fashioned into your door. You now need to decide where to put it on the ibc. Cut bars off metal cage and place barrel down and mark out circle to be cut out of ibc. Now put barrel on ground lid facing down. You may need to put a weight on top of the lid to secure it steady, while you cut down vertical lines 4 inches down to the black marker line. You'll need to make quite a few cuts, I'm guessing at least twenty. These cut bits are going to be bent back to form a lip.

Link to image of vertical cuts in oil barrel. Scroll down a bit to see vertical cuts.

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Wood-Gasifier-Project/3764730


If I was going doing this myself I would put the barrel door on the top of the ibc, and fill it with bags from the top and then pull the ibc onto its side for storage and for retrieval of bags/ weatherproofing purposes. (Less bars to cut) It depends how many bags you're planning on putting in it.

Anyway as this is a theoretical exercise the next part is going to have to worked out in the workshop. Cut out circle hole in ibc with knife. I'd try first pushing the barrel through the hole(take off lid) and then reach in and bend back the cut bits of metal ninety degrees, so that when you try to pull out the barrel it won't come. If this doesn't prove possible then maybe you will have to bend them before you push it through the hole and then bend them back to weaken the crease a bit. I'd say they would bend with a lump hammer using the first method but you may need to hold them with a vice grips as well.

Drill holes through ibc and into this steel lip and bolt washer and nut loosely, now silicone the joint well, I'd use a Whole(Full) tube if I was doing it. Tighten up the nuts and then put your lid and clamp on and hey presto you have a rather elaborate weatherproof door.

It would have been easier for me to make one and take a picture of it than trying to explain it. A picture really does paint 1000 words. Have fun!

john p mc g

pachanco wrote: »

Here's my suggestion, might be more effort than you're willing to put in, as you've stated you're looking for an easy transformation. Also you would need a 210 litre steel oil barrel with a lid and clamp (Perhaps one used for apple juice would be better actually) as there is cutting involved) and a tube of silicone and some nuts,bolts and washers, drill and bit, lump hammer, vice grips, black marker,knife,file, angle grinder. (Mister maker eat your heart out):)

Link to image of apple juice barrel type. DON'T USE ONE PREVIOUSLY USED FOR STORING OIL (Flamable, sparks etc.)

http://listhd.com/Construction/listings/18599/Open-and-closed-top-55-gallon,-very-clean,-metal-and-HDPE-barrels-or-drums.html

So anyway make sure the the apple juice drum is well cleaned out. You cut the top, say 12 inches off with an angle grinder; actually there are lines on the barrels so you could just cut along the line. Before you make the cut, take the lid clamp and put it four inches above the line your going to cut and mark out a line with a black marker.

So cut off the top 12 inches off the barrel. File the edge. I'm sure you will find a use for the bottom part of the barrel. This barrel top with lid and clamp is going to be fashioned into your door. You now need to decide where to put it on the ibc. Cut bars off metal cage and place barrel down and mark out circle to be cut out of ibc. Now put barrel on ground lid facing down. You may need to put a weight on top of the lid to secure it steady, while you cut down vertical lines 4 inches down to the black marker line. You'll need to make quite a few cuts, I'm guessing at least twenty. These cut bits are going to be bent back to form a lip.

Link to image of vertical cuts in oil barrel. Scroll down a bit to see vertical cuts.

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Wood-Gasifier-Project/3764730


If I was going doing this myself I would put the barrel door on the top of the ibc, and fill it with bags from the top and then pull the ibc onto its side for storage and for retrieval of bags/ weatherproofing purposes. (Less bars to cut) It depends how many bags you're planning on putting in it.

Anyway as this is a theoretical exercise the next part is going to have to worked out in the workshop. Cut out circle hole in ibc with knife. I'd try first pushing the barrel through the hole(take off lid) and then reach in and bend back the cut bits of metal ninety degrees, so that when you try to pull out the barrel it won't come. If this doesn't prove possible then maybe you will have to bend them before you push it through the hole and then bend them back to weaken the crease a bit. I'd say they would bend with a lump hammer using the first method but you may need to hold them with a vice grips as well.

Drill holes through ibc and into this steel lip and bolt washer and nut loosely, now silicone the joint well, I'd use a hole tube if I was doing it. Tighten up the nuts and then put your lid and clamp on and hey presto you have a rather elaborate weatherproof door.

It would have been easier for me to make one and take a picture of it than trying to explain it. A picture really does paint 1000 words. Have fun!

U couldnt describe it much better than that sounds like a right good job and not hard done

Conmaicne Mara

pachanco wrote: »

Here's my suggestion, might be more effort than you're willing to put in, as you've stated you're looking for an easy transformation. Also you would need a 210 litre steel oil barrel with a lid and clamp (Perhaps one used for apple juice would be better actually) as there is cutting involved) and a tube of silicone and some nuts,bolts and washers, drill and bit, lump hammer, vice grips, black marker,knife,file, angle grinder. (Mister maker eat your heart out):)

Link to image of apple juice barrel type. DON'T USE ONE PREVIOUSLY USED FOR STORING OIL (Flamable, sparks etc.)

http://listhd.com/Construction/listings/18599/Open-and-closed-top-55-gallon,-very-clean,-metal-and-HDPE-barrels-or-drums.html

So anyway make sure the the apple juice drum is well cleaned out. You cut the top, say 12 inches off with an angle grinder; actually there are lines on the barrels so you could just cut along the line. Before you make the cut, take the lid clamp and put it four inches above the line your going to cut and mark out a line with a black marker.

So cut off the top 12 inches off the barrel. File the edge. I'm sure you will find a use for the bottom part of the barrel. This barrel top with lid and clamp is going to be fashioned into your door. You now need to decide where to put it on the ibc. Cut bars off metal cage and place barrel down and mark out circle to be cut out of ibc. Now put barrel on ground lid facing down. You may need to put a weight on top of the lid to secure it steady, while you cut down vertical lines 4 inches down to the black marker line. You'll need to make quite a few cuts, I'm guessing at least twenty. These cut bits are going to be bent back to form a lip.

Link to image of vertical cuts in oil barrel. Scroll down a bit to see vertical cuts.

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Wood-Gasifier-Project/3764730


If I was going doing this myself I would put the barrel door on the top of the ibc, and fill it with bags from the top and then pull the ibc onto its side for storage and for retrieval of bags/ weatherproofing purposes. (Less bars to cut) It depends how many bags you're planning on putting in it.

Anyway as this is a theoretical exercise the next part is going to have to worked out in the workshop. Cut out circle hole in ibc with knife. I'd try first pushing the barrel through the hole(take off lid) and then reach in and bend back the cut bits of metal ninety degrees, so that when you try to pull out the barrel it won't come. If this doesn't prove possible then maybe you will have to bend them before you push it through the hole and then bend them back to weaken the crease a bit. I'd say they would bend with a lump hammer using the first method but you may need to hold them with a vice grips as well.

Drill holes through ibc and into this steel lip and bolt washer and nut loosely, now silicone the joint well, I'd use a hole tube if I was doing it. Tighten up the nuts and then put your lid and clamp on and hey presto you have a rather elaborate weatherproof door.

It would have been easier for me to make one and take a picture of it than trying to explain it. A picture really does paint 1000 words. Have fun!

Thanks, that sounds like the kind of messing I'd be into :pac:

One question, what is a "hole tube"? I did Google it, but wouldn't reccommend any one else does, 'cept Bob maybe

pachanco

You caught me out there, I did read it again before posting, corrected now, Whole of the tube. Tech 7 would probably be better than silicone, depends how much you want to spend. I'm expecting an update with a picture when it's done, it took me ages to type that explanation, not to mention searching for a picture of a steel barrel cut vertically!

Good luck and for gods sake, wear some gloves when your cutting that barrel! I'm not taking any responsibility for cut fingers.

Conmaicne Mara

Ah ok, thanks, I read it arseways.