Parlour building cost

dungfly

I plan on building a 20 unit parlour 70 x 23 ft (similar to the Teagasc spec attached). How much would the shed alone cost (materials + labour breakdown would be interesting). There is much info on equipment costs but I am finding it difficult to estimate how much the building would cost. I may use an overhang on one side as shelter for a drafting unit. The shed will be steel frame, thin mass concrete walls, airy and good light.

jersey101

dungfly wrote: »

I plan on building a 20 unit parlour 70 x 23 ft (similar to the Teagasc spec attached). How much would the shed alone cost (materials + labour breakdown would be interesting). There is much info on equipment costs but I am finding it difficult to estimate how much the building would cost. I may use an overhang on one side as shelter for a drafting unit. The shed will be steel frame, thin mass concrete walls, airy and good light.

have you not asked any shed manufacturers to give you a quote? Or are you building yourself

dungfly

jersey101 wrote: »

have you not asked any shed manufacturers to give you a quote? Or are you building yourself

Thinking of doing some of the build myself but was interested how should I go about estimating costs?

jaymla627

Is it a greenfield site our existing buildings being worked in, good write-up in the Irish independent this week about parlour/building costs, re your shed measurements your talking nearly 60 feet alone for your pit, plus 18-19 ft wide depending on pit width, going 70x23 would leave a fairly exposed shed.

jersey101

Are you going to put bulk tank inside are outside? Were toying with the idea of buying an outdoor milk silo of 12k litres and keep our small milk tank inside for beestings. Its an extra cost if you have to build up a dairy.

Timmaay

jersey101 wrote: »

Are you going to put bulk tank inside are outside? Were toying with the idea of buying an outdoor milk silo of 12k litres and keep our small milk tank inside for beestings. Its an extra cost if you have to build up a dairy.

Outdoor tanks need planning AFAIK, and they will certainly be more expensive than a normal tank. I'd just be firing on the extra few feet on the parlour. Actually I don't think there are many outdoor tanks less than 15/18klitres?

jersey101

Timmaay wrote: »

Outdoor tanks need planning AFAIK, and they will certainly be more expensive than a normal tank. I'd just be firing on the extra few feet on the parlour. Actually I don't think there are many outdoor tanks less than 15/18klitres?

do ye? Havent looked into how much more they cost yet but i seen a mueller one at the ploughing that was 12k l. Dont really fancy extending the dairy, yard is cramped enough as it is

Milked out

jersey101 wrote: »

Are you going to put bulk tank inside are outside? Were toying with the idea of buying an outdoor milk silo of 12k litres and keep our small milk tank inside for beestings. Its an extra cost if you have to build up a dairy.

I think you have to get planning for a milk silo, but if its part of an overall development it may not be a big deal. Going to extend our 10 unit to 14 units and add batch feeders, new parlour will have to wait here i'm afraid, need to upgrade the tank as well and will have to make the dairy bigger.

Milked out

Tim beat me to it

jersey101

Costs 5k to apply for planning permission in wx. I think ill just through it i. No one will know ha. Sure the neighbours put up massive sheds and never got planning permission

Milked out

On shed costs I got a quote of 6e/sqft to cover cubicles, now I was inquiring in order to plan out costs for what I need to do so that figure is rough may be more or less when I finally decide to do it depending on spec etc

moy83

jersey101 wrote: »

Costs 5k to apply for planning permission in wx. I think ill just through it i. No one will know ha. Sure the neighbours put up massive sheds and never got planning permission

Its hardly 5k to apply is it ? Maybe if you are granted permission there would be a charge then . I think its 11k here now when you get planning for a house its to cover crap like public amenities ( none of which im likely to see in my area anyhow )

Pacoa

Just seen this on ifj facebook page. Parlour build start to finish. Looks like a 20 unit so you might get some ideas from it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5_MCA3tys

dungfly

Milked out wrote: »

On shed costs I got a quote of 6e/sqft to cover cubicles, now I was inquiring in order to plan out costs for what I need to do so that figure is rough may be more or less when I finally decide to do it depending on spec etc

At 6 euro per square foot then a 20 unit parlour 70 x 23 ft should cost 9.7K.

dungfly

Does anyone have any plans for a 20 unit, such as roof height, pitch, etc? Where can I get such info.

jersey101

moy83 wrote: »

Its hardly 5k to apply is it ? Maybe if you are granted permission there would be a charge then . I think its 11k here now when you get planning for a house its to cover crap like public amenities ( none of which im likely to see in my area anyhow )

was in the ifj last year i think and they had a list of counties and what plannibg permission cost in each county.

jaymla627

Pacoa wrote: »

Just seen this on ifj facebook page. Parlour build start to finish. Looks like a 20 unit so you might get some ideas from it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5_MCA3tys[/QUOTE]

How to drop 250k plus would be the first one, the one problem id have with that parlour is putting in acrs and then going with a batch-feeding system for what looked like good milky cows, would of been better with individual troughs and feed to yield then putting in acrs especially when it looks like theirs plenty of help around.

maxxuumman

Timmaay wrote: »

Outdoor tanks need planning AFAIK, and they will certainly be more expensive than a normal tank. I'd just be firing on the extra few feet on the parlour. Actually I don't think there are many outdoor tanks less than 15/18klitres?

4 yrs ago when the dairy grants were there, I bought 12k Packo outdoor tank. Went outdoor because dairy wasn't big enough for it and I would have had to apply for planning for extension to shed to house new tank.
At the time didn't need PP for outdoor tank.
The out door tank is the same as an indoor, except for a few small changes. Covers on agitators, lock on tank lid and insulated pipe from front of tank into dairy, that's it €1200 extra over price of tank.

Milked out

maxxuumman wrote: »

4 yrs ago when the dairy grants were there, I bought 12k Packo outdoor tank. Went outdoor because dairy wasn't big enough for it and I would have had to apply for planning for extension to shed to house new tank.
At the time didn't need PP for outdoor tank.
The out door tank is the same as an indoor, except for a few small changes. Covers on agitators, lock on tank lid and insulated pipe from front of tank into dairy, that's it €1200 extra over price of tank.

any issues with the freeze we had 2 springs ago, or birds or anything??

Timmaay

Hmm I'm thinking of the outdoor silo tanks. I didn't even know you can get the conventional ones in outdoor form.

RoscommonTom

10 k should be around the price id say and I wouldnt worry about planning

dungfly

jaymla627 wrote: »

Pacoa wrote: »

Just seen this on ifj facebook page. Parlour build start to finish. Looks like a 20 unit so you might get some ideas from it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5_MCA3tys[/QUOTE]

How to drop 250k plus would be the first one, the one problem id have with that parlour is putting in acrs and then going with a batch-feeding system for what looked like good milky cows, would of been better with individual troughs and feed to yield then putting in acrs especially when it looks like theirs plenty of help around.

I was very impressed with this 20 unit parlour used to milk 130 cows. I agree with about batch feeders, but this is how we all learn from one another. I liked the overhang roof over the crush/drafting. Does any one have any idead or plans regards yard design and cattle flow?

st1979

Timmaay wrote: »

Hmm I'm thinking of the outdoor silo tanks. I didn't even know you can get the conventional ones in outdoor form.

When I was buying a tank some of the sellers of tanks that also sold silos warned me to only get silo if I had 3 phase as they had issues with tbc due to not getting a good enough clean. This would not apply to an indoor tank adapted to outdoor

mahoney_j

jaymla627 wrote: »

Pacoa wrote: »

Just seen this on ifj facebook page. Parlour build start to finish. Looks like a 20 unit so you might get some ideas from it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5_MCA3tys[/QUOTE]

How to drop 250k plus would be the first one, the one problem id have with that parlour is putting in acrs and then going with a batch-feeding system for what looked like good milky cows, would of been better with individual troughs and feed to yield then putting in acrs especially when it looks like theirs plenty of help around.

Was thinkibg the same myself batch feeders are great if you just want to feed all cows the same level of feed but no good for individual feedibg.

mahoney_j

jaymla627 wrote: »

Pacoa wrote: »

Just seen this on ifj facebook page. Parlour build start to finish. Looks like a 20 unit so you might get some ideas from it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5_MCA3tys[/QUOTE]

How to drop 250k plus would be the first one, the one problem id have with that parlour is putting in acrs and then going with a batch-feeding system for what looked like good milky cows, would of been better with individual troughs and feed to yield then putting in acrs especially when it looks like theirs plenty of help around.

Was thinkibg the same myself batch feeders are great if you just want to feed all cows the same level of feed but no good for individual feedibg.