How to Value my Lancia Fulvia

AltAccount

I have a 1973 Lancia Fulvia 2Dr 1.3S Series 2.

I was given it by a friend and it's become startlingly obvious that I don't have the time, inclination or knowledge to get it running and give it the care it deserves. I'm also starting to get a lot of hassle from our management company who now believe I'm storing it, rather than fixing it up, which is against our deeds/rules.

I'm now faced with selling it. At the moment it doesn't run, but that's because it needs a water pump (still). I have the parts, but not the time or ability to fix it.

How do I go about valuing a car that's relatively rare (with a newer car I'd just go on Done Deal or Carzone and look for similar cars)? How do I get a good price on a car that's not running?

Any thoughts much appreciated before I start putting an ad together and getting it online.

Anan1

That's a tough one. If at all possible, I'd get it running - is the water pump all it'd take to do that?

AltAccount

That's what my mate told me when he gave it to me. We nearly had it running a few weekends ago, but it wasn't catching properly. I bought new plugs and charged the battery, but 3 weeks on I haven't had time to fit the plugs and try again.

I want rid of it tbh, but since I'd essentially be selling it for my mate, I want to make sure I get him a good price.

rugbyman

It would be hard to estimate a price on here without a pic.
however i will guesstimate that if running ok,and you could risk starting it without a water pump. and if it is original Irish , and if its not too rusty its worth 1500 to 2000.

While i say you could risk starting it without a pump that is true, but it would not give you long enough time to ascertain if the engine was good.

regards,

if you have no pic , can you describe on here the state of the body re rust

AltAccount

Not original Irish, but on Irish plates now (and fully taxed).

Rusty-ish, but nothing crazy. No rust showing but some bubbling under the paint on most panels.

I'll post pics tomorrow.

Bigus

Here's one on donedeal for 2750, not even selling at that price, sounds about same condition, but driving.
It says only one day old advert but it's been up a few weeks.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/lancia-fulvia-coupe-s3/5766611

kev1.3s

Hi I never did get the chance to post that rad cap but I still have it if you need it, fulvia prices in Ireland are well below the uk and Europe so you're not likely to make a killing on it and yours is a series 3 car which would be the least desirable of the lot but I don't really put much notice on done deal prices because I believe a truly good fulvia will still be worth a nice few euros, trouble is that there isn't that many good fulvias out there! Rust is going to frighten anybody away from an Italian car too and whilst fulvias are well serviced with repair panels I wouldn't pay very much for a car that I taught was going to need some welding done.
Stick up some pics so we can see what it's like but take it from me if you get it running well it's a great fun drive for very little cost.

carlosfandango

I'd say get it running. It will double the price of whatever someone is willing to offer you.
Really with these cars though, it's all about rust. It's killed a lot of them.
Are there cracks on the front wheel arches above the wheel?

If you get a chance to post some pictures or pm them to me I'll send them on to a few nuts who might be interested.
I had one over 20 years ago & reluctantly sold it, wish I hadn't - still!

CFD

unkel

AltAccount wrote: »

At the moment it doesn't run, but that's because it needs a water pump

That doesn't make sense to me. You don't need a water pump to be there (or working) to start the engine, surely?

Note: my mechanical knowledge is very limited, I could very well be wrong here

AltAccount

It'll start, but needs plugs. I wont/can't drive without the pump because it's an engine that doesn't do overheating well.

swarlb

AltAccount wrote: »

It'll start, but needs plugs. I wont/can't drive without the pump because it's an engine that doesn't do overheating well.

Are you certain it needs a water pump. They may leak, usually from lack of use, but water pumps on Fulvias very rarely failed.
Its impossible to value these cars without a complete check over. Fulvias used regularly, are actually quite reliable. The one thing they don't like, is to be left sitting. Brakes tend to seize, handbrake cables, and or handbrake shoes also tend to seize. Apart from the rust issue, which can be complex to repair properly. Unless the car has had repairs at some stage, the chances are it will have rust issues.
As previously pointed out, values in Ireland are a lot less than in the UK, where there is more appreciation for the model, and a greater will to maintain them.

kev1.3s

I think a realistic value for a non driving fulvia in Ireland would unfortunately be in the sub 1k bracket, the last running but non driving car I bought was €500 and that had an Irish plate! However get her up and running and you should have a different proposition.

Dades

A car that's running opens up the market to all sorts of people who want to take a chance on owning a cheap classic and sorting out the fiddly bits in their own time. A non-runner only interests those who see it as a project and have the inclination to buy cheap and fix themselves.

As CFD suggests, if someone can drive it away - you'll get twice the cash!

Need pics (inside and out) to give ANY kind of proper valuation though.

swarlb

Early this year, I sold a non running rusty Fulvia with no engine or transmission fitted. The engine/transmission was on a pallat, and there was no indication of its condition. I got 1500 Euro for it. The person who bought it, wanted a Fulvia.
The most important word here is 'wanted'.
Once you find someone who really wants a Fulvia, then you are on a winner.

kev1.3s

swarlb wrote: »

Early this year, I sold a non running rusty Fulvia with no engine or transmission fitted. The engine/transmission was on a pallat, and there was no indication of its condition. I got 1500 Euro for it. The person who bought it, wanted a Fulvia.
The most important word here is 'wanted'.
Once you find someone who really wants a Fulvia, then you are on a winner.

Wow you really stuck the boot in there but I suppose as they say the time to sell is when someone is looking to buy! What series btw?

swarlb

kev1.3s wrote: »

Wow you really stuck the boot in there but I suppose as they say the time to sell is when someone is looking to buy! What series btw?

Series 2. I had it on donedeal. and did not hide anything about its condition. I put up the price just as a guide. The more I described how bad the car was, the more he seemed to want it.

unkel

AltAccount wrote: »

At the moment it doesn't run

AltAccount wrote: »

It'll start, but needs plugs

So it does run. Thanks for clearing that up

You have the plugs, why not fit them? At least then you can show a prospective buyer that the car starts / engine runs