Anyone using iPad as sole computer?

baby and crumble

Hey guys,

I'm setting up a business and I have decided that for the type of business it is, I'll need an iPad to show samples of the product to possible customers, etc. I also want to use Pages as my primary software (the product is based on the written word, and my general looking and research has left me thinking Pages will be the best presentation and editing software).

Anyway, I can't afford to upgrade my laptop (currently a windows machine) at the same time. I'm wondering how using an iPad as a primary typing and editing machine is? I know you can get keyboard attachments etc, but is typing and editing documents going to wreck my head on an iPad?

tomtom101

I've no idea how effective or efficient a ipad is as a main working machine - but there is pages available on iCloud that you can access via a windows computer!

jakdublin

baby and crumble wrote: »

Hey guys,

I'm setting up a business and I have decided that for the type of business it is, I'll need an iPad to show samples of the product to possible customers, etc. I also want to use Pages as my primary software (the product is based on the written word, and my general looking and research has left me thinking Pages will be the best presentation and editing software).

Anyway, I can't afford to upgrade my laptop (currently a windows machine) at the same time. I'm wondering how using an iPad as a primary typing and editing machine is? I know you can get keyboard attachments etc, but is typing and editing documents going to wreck my head on an iPad?

Yes. I have a laptop and an iPad. I've tried editing on the ipad and it's a head-wrecker indeed. It's by no means impossible, and I stuck with it over a four day project which I completed, but I could have done it in half the time on the laptop. I touch-type and am fast, and I found even an attached keyboard fiddly and difficult to get used to and the ipad doesn't lend itself to jobs that involve multitasking like researching and writing.
I see them as two difference devices serving two different purposes. The ipad is a media viewer, email client and internet browser IMO and it's great for those tasks. It's also handy if you're stuck and need to do quick edits and can't get to a computer, but in no way would it be a laptop replacement. Given a choice, and if it's for work, get yourself a laptop and when you make a success of your business, treat yourself to an ipad.

biko

Would a bluetooth keyboard have helped? About 70 euro.

Dman001

If you plan to type up long reports, and need to print them, I'd still use a laptop. OP, why not give your laptop a clean and a fresh install of the OS and use it for your typing needs. And use the iPad for other bits??

The only reason I turn on my laptop now is to type up documents. I use my iPad for everything else. Saying that if I had Pages and a keyboard I may use it to type things up. But I'd see it as step down more than anything compared to my laptop for typing. I don't think you'll beat a mouse for ease of use and efficiency for that sort of stuff.

jakdublin

biko wrote: »

Would a bluetooth keyboard have helped? About 70 euro.

I was using one. They help, but not enough. I love my ipad, but it's not a device I'd rely on for work.

baby and crumble

Dman001 wrote: »

If you plan to type up long reports, and need to print them, I'd still use a laptop. OP, why not give your laptop a clean and a fresh install of the OS and use it for your typing needs. And use the iPad for other bits??

My laptop is a bit bashed, physically. And I want to be able to use Pages seamlessly, so I'll be checking out the pages in icloud... My current laptop is about 4 years old so its nearing the end of its natural life. I've already had to get a screen replacements, battery replacement...

Frank Lee Midere

Does copy and paste between apps even work on the iPad?

baby and crumble

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Does copy and paste between apps even work on the iPad?

Why is that an issue?

davidfitz22

The ipad is a good media/lounge device but I would never rely on one for business purposes over a traditional laptop with Windows. You can try installing linux mint on your laptop, it's free and is on par with a mac without being resource hungry

Sad Professor

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Does copy and paste between apps even work on the iPad?

Of course it does.

stonecipher

What about a refurbished 11" Macbook Air should get a decent discount?

Also Apple have an event on the 22nd probably best to hold off on the iPad till then a new one is likely.

r3nu4l

I've used my iPad when I'm away on business for typing up meeting reports while I'm at the airport and on the plane. However, the main editing is always done on a computer when I get home. I use dropbox to transfer files pretty easily and efficiently.

Can't say I'd be 100% comfortable using my iPad as the sole writing and editing tool.

Sad Professor

Yeah, the iPad is fine for typing on, even without the keyboard add-on, but it's not suitable for proper editing. It's not that you wouldn't be able to do everything. The Pages app is almost fully functional and with the help of third party apps there's very little you can't do on an iPad now, it would just be a lot easier and less time consuming on a computer.

baby and crumble

Thanks all. Tbh I was fairly sure id get these answers so that's grand. I had a look at pages in iCloud and it's pretty great and a possible solution until I can upgrade my laptop. For me I think having the iPad is actually more important as I'll need to have samples etc easily viewable and the iPad will do that really well. So now I wait until the 22nd to see what the craic is.

Frank Lee Midere

baby and crumble wrote: »

Why is that an issue?

Well apparently it does work - I never use my iPad for anything other than consumption, not even email.

But without copy and paste a device cannot really work as a work device.

whiterebel

r3nu4l wrote: »

I've used my iPad when I'm away on business for typing up meeting reports while I'm at the airport and on the plane. However, the main editing is always done on a computer when I get home. I use dropbox to transfer files pretty easily and efficiently.

Can't say I'd be 100% comfortable using my iPad as the sole writing and editing tool.

I'd use mine in a similar way. Editing is really fiddly, particularly in Keynote, for presentations. I got the ultra thin Logitech keyboard which really helps with the typing, acts as a case, and looks really, really smart.

murpho999

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Well apparently it does work - I never use my iPad for anything other than consumption, not even email.

But without copy and paste a device cannot really work as a work device.

Well to be fair I don't think you know how to use the device fully if you don't know about copy and paste.

Frank Lee Midere

murpho999 wrote: »

Well to be fair I don't think you know how to use the device fully if you don't know about copy and paste.

To be fair I didn't say I did. To be fair I asked a question. About whether the device handled copy and paste. To be fair that question was not rhetorical or a sneer - it was an actual question.

And to be even fairer ill use my iPad as I damn well please.

Which is as a device for consumption.

murpho999

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

To be fair I didn't say I did. To be fair I asked a question. About whether the device handled copy and paste. To be fair that question was not rhetorical or a sneer - it was an actual question.

And to be even fairer ill use my iPad as I damn well please.

Which is as a device for consumption.

That's fine just amazed that you don't know about copy and paste on an iPad.

culabula

I just dictate my documents to mine.

r3nu4l

culabula wrote: »

I just dictate my documents to mine.

I have a dictation app too but how do you edit using dictation?

culabula

r3nu4l wrote: »

I have a dictation app too but how do you edit using dictation?

You dont need a dictation app, it's a simple function of Siri.

You punctuate as you go along, by uttering commands such as "comma" or "new paragraph".

If necessary, you can then tidy up afterwards, manually.

This post was brought to you using dictation. Full stop :-)

r3nu4l

culabula wrote: »

You dont need a dictation app, it's a simple function of Siri.

You punctuate as you go along, by uttering commands such as "comma" or "new paragraph".

If necessary, you can then tidy up afterwards, manually.

This post was brought to you using dictation. Full stop :-)

I don't have Siri on the iPad (1st generation), that only comes with iOS 6 onwards so a dictation app is necessary for me.

My point about editing on the iPad still stands. It's a fiddly process that is far, far slower than on a computer.

culabula

r3nu4l wrote: »

I don't have Siri on the iPad (1st generation), that only comes with iOS 6 onwards so a dictation app is necessary for me.

My point about editing on the iPad still stands. It's a fiddly process that is far, far slower than on a computer.

Well, fair enough, I didn't realise you had the original iPad.

However, I do have the latest model and Siri and it's the easiest and fastest way of getting a lengthy document done. When I go to my MacBook these days! it feels positively archaic I waste more time double-tapping the spacebar for a full stop on it, than I do going over my dictated document for the odd error.

r3nu4l

culabula wrote: »

Well, fair enough, I didn't realise you had the original iPad.

However, I do have the latest model and Siri and it's the easiest and fastest way of getting a lengthy document done. When I go to my MacBook these days! it feels positively archaic I waste more time double-tapping the spacebar for a full stop on it, than I do going over my dictated document for the odd error.

Heh How long would it take to correct the above errors using Siri?Remove exclamation point, replace with comma, delete lowercase i and replace with uppercase I. Any slower than two seconds is a fail in my book.

Also, how is Siri at chemical names and medical terminology? I'm genuinely interested. That said, I often write confidential documents so dictating out loud isn't a great idea whether using apps or Siri I usually type them away from prying eyes.

culabula

r3nu4l wrote: »

Heh How long would it take to correct the above errors using Siri?Remove exclamation point, replace with comma, delete lowercase i and replace with uppercase I. Any slower than two seconds is a fail in my book.

Also, how is Siri at chemical names and medical terminology? I'm genuinely interested. That said, I often write confidential documents so dictating out loud isn't a great idea whether using apps or Siri I usually type them away from prying eyes.

Actually, the errors above were made while typing as I was on the DART by the that time. I have been making that error frequently when typing since the introduction of IOS 7, but I don't know whether to blame the latter or myself and my over-enthusiastic, speedy thumbs. Years of Psion usage has made me very fast but I don't yet know if it's a bug in iOS 7 or my latest senior moment hitting the shift key when I simply want a comma.

As for medical terms, you're welcome to send me some text by PM and in the interests of research, I'll give it a lash.


P.S: I often switch languages when dictating and dictating say, in French, without errors, is equally impressive.

whiterebel

culabula wrote: »

Actually, the errors above were made while typing as I was on the DART by the that time. I have been making that error frequently when typing since the introduction of IOS 7, but I don't know whether to blame the latter or myself and my over-enthusiastic, speedy thumbs. Years of Psion usage has made me very fast but I don't yet know if it's a bug in Siri or my latest senior moment hitting the shift key when I simply want a comma.

As for medical terms, you're welcome to send me some text by PM and in the interests of research, I'll give it a lash.


P.S: I often switch languages when dictating and dictating say, in French, without errors, is equally impressive.

Jaysus Culabula, is there no end to your talents!!!:D

culabula

whiterebel wrote: »

Jaysus Culabula, is there no end to your talents!!!:D

Had no idea there was a beginning to them!

Piliger

Too many short sighted people who think that assessing the iPad as being capable of being someone's only computer means it has to do everything. WTF ?

Most people only want to do a few things. Most people only want to use the web, email, social apps. and a few more. Email is a creative process, for example, not consumptive.

I myself would need, and enjoy a desktop, as well because I want to do many things that only that kind of device can offer.

But I have written long documents including several business plans and reports on an iPad. I have also created a number of presentations. I've never had a typing problem or a formatting issue. I guess I just believe in learning how to do something before I throw my hands up and blame the tool.

r3nu4l

Piliger wrote: »

But I have written long documents including several business plans and reports on an iPad. I have also created a number of presentations. I've never had a typing problem or a formatting issue. I guess I just believe in learning how to do something before I throw my hands up and blame the tool.

I don't think anyone has said that the iPad cannot do these things. I've stated that I write documents on the iPad. I do also edit documents on the iPad but I prefer a PC/Mac for editing because it's faster (in my experience). I am a professional writer, it's what I do for a living. I spend all day, every day, writing and editing and I still find the PC/Mac faster than the iPad when it comes to intensive editing.

Piliger

r3nu4l wrote: »

I don't think anyone has said that the iPad cannot do these things. I've stated that I write documents on the iPad. I do also edit documents on the iPad but I prefer a PC/Mac for editing because it's faster (in my experience). I am a professional writer, it's what I do for a living. I spend all day, every day, writing and editing and I still find the PC/Mac faster than the iPad when it comes to intensive editing.

I wouldn't disagree.

WeHaveToGoBack

I know this is an Apple forum, but wouldn't a Windows tablet make more sense? Something with Windows 8 would give you the best of both worlds

Piliger

WeHaveToGoBack wrote: »

I know this is an Apple forum, but wouldn't a Windows tablet make more sense? Something with Windows 8 would give you the best of both worlds

That bewilders me .... :rolleyes:

baby and crumble

WeHaveToGoBack wrote: »

I know this is an Apple forum, but wouldn't a Windows tablet make more sense? Something with Windows 8 would give you the best of both worlds

Well since I'm the op, there's a few reasons for me wanting an iPad/ mac mix for this particular venture:

The best program for me to design and distribute the product is Pages. I have Tried many of the Microsoft and freeware alternatives but I find Pages the easiest and the one that gives bet results.

I personally have invested heavily in the iOS 'world', ie apps etc that I would also be using on the iPad. So I don't see the point in moving unless it's for a fantastic reason.

I don't really like Windows, I have had to have a windows machine for software I was using for my postgrad, and now that I need to change anyway, I want to move back to mac since that's what I was using before that.

WeHaveToGoBack

baby and crumble wrote: »

Well since I'm the op, there's a few reasons for me wanting an iPad/ mac mix for this particular venture:

The best program for me to design and distribute the product is Pages. I have Tried many of the Microsoft and freeware alternatives but I find Pages the easiest and the one that gives bet results.

I personally have invested heavily in the iOS 'world', ie apps etc that I would also be using on the iPad. So I don't see the point in moving unless it's for a fantastic reason.

I don't really like Windows, I have had to have a windows machine for software I was using for my postgrad, and now that I need to change anyway, I want to move back to mac since that's what I was using before that.

Ah right, well if you're invested in the iOS platform I suppose it makes sense to stay with it

Piliger

WeHaveToGoBack wrote: »

Ah right, well if you're invested in the iOS platform I suppose it makes sense to stay with it

It has nothing to do with investing. The iOS is just far superior to the Windows, especially for creating content.

WeHaveToGoBack

Piliger wrote: »

It has nothing to do with investing. The iOS is just far superior to the Windows, especially for creating content.

ok.