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Ulster bank won't let me change my name.

  • 16-10-2013 12:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    I was born in Donegal and was christened John but was called Sean since I can remember. None of that mattered until the last 5 years or so, now it's I.D everywhere. Some people cannot get their heads round the Sean/John name. I have changed my Passport & driving license from John to Sean with no problems but with Ulster bank it's NOT POSSIBLE. I must close our joint account, notify all direct debits and open a new account in the name Sean!.
    I think it will be easier to goto another bank.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Ulster says No


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    NO SURRENDER


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭Andrew_Doran




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    Have you legally changed your name? If so they have to update it according to Data Protection regulations.

    If you haven't there might be something about Irish and English versions of names.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    Did not think you would have to Legally change a First name. Middle name & Surname remains the same.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    I asked to change it to Sean/John but no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    seanoge wrote: »
    I asked to change it to Sean/John but no.
    Why not just leave it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭returnNull


    1st world problem tbh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 131 ✭✭Rod Serling


    I know your pain OP. Christened John and gone by a different name since birth, never mattered until the last year or so. Got in trouble in a French airport because the name on my boarding pass was different to my passport since nobody ever, ever calls me John or thought to enter it in when filling it out online. Now imagine trying to explain the situation to someone where English isn't their first language.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,420 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I know your pain OP. Christened John and gone by a different name since birth, never mattered until the last year or so. Got in trouble in a French airport because the name on my boarding pass was different to my passport since nobody ever, ever calls me John or thought to enter it in when filling it out online. Now imagine trying to explain the situation to someone where English isn't their first language.

    I thought everyone knew that you had to use your name as it appears on your passport? :confused:

    What people call you is irrelevant really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    awec wrote: »
    I thought everyone knew that you had to use your name as it appears on your passport? :confused:

    What people call you is irrelevant really.

    Unless the world revolves around you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭stefan idiot jones


    Hang on a minute, which Lennon are you ?


  • Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Daft really. No one but your mates give two fiddlers about what your friends and family call you. Change your name by deed poll to Sean and you won't have the issue. Nick names aren't really appropriate in business. Imagine me trying to change my name in the bank to McLovin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    The name on my passport IS Sean changed from John but this cut no ice with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    Just had a look at the Deed poll route. Everything must be done by hand in Dublin (I live in Sligo), no post, no online service. Still it's only 2013, early yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,925 ✭✭✭✭anncoates


    Ulster says No

    Sean being a taig name must be the reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭confuseddotcom


    Deed Poll is way to go I would say.

    Had awful trouble trying to convince a Cop there sometime that I was the owner of my Passport because I use my second name and I sign by my second name which is used for about 97% of stuff, he didn't seem too familiar with the concept of it, - in fairness I've resided in quite a few different places so it was a bit messy lol but I managed to get him to see in the end. But it actually worked to my advantage then some other time I was trying to get something sorted out where the Letter I had was addressed to just my first time but all was fine as Passport had Birth name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Your name is John, deal with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    Deal with it? After 68 years being called Sean. It was never a problem. The only time you needed ID was if you left the country and then they looked only at the photo.
    There were no bank/credit cards.
    I was stopped in an English Train station and asked for ID. The world has gone ID mad.




  • I know your pain OP. Christened John and gone by a different name since birth, never mattered until the last year or so. Got in trouble in a French airport because the name on my boarding pass was different to my passport since nobody ever, ever calls me John or thought to enter it in when filling it out online. Now imagine trying to explain the situation to someone where English isn't their first language.

    Everyone else in the world manages to book flight tickets with their name as it appears on their passport. It's really not hard. Why on earth do you think it ever would be OK to have a boarding pass with one name and passport with another? :confused:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭renegademaster


    I know your pain OP. Christened John and gone by a different name since birth, never mattered until the last year or so. Got in trouble in a French airport because the name on my boarding pass was different to my passport since nobody ever, ever calls me John or thought to enter it in when filling it out online. Now imagine trying to explain the situation to someone where English isn't their first language.

    it shouldn't be that hard for french to understand the difference between feench/english names in all fairness, Michael/Michel, John/Jean


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,285 ✭✭✭An Coilean


    Lyaiera wrote: »
    Have you legally changed your name? If so they have to update it according to Data Protection regulations.

    If you haven't there might be something about Irish and English versions of names.

    You don't have to, the state recognizes an equivalency between Irish and English versions of names.

    Once you have official ID and proof of address with the Irish version of your name, it should not be a problem. I would suggest sending a letter to their customer care office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭ectoraige


    Caint le Seosamh.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,420 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    An Coilean wrote: »
    You don't have to, the state recognizes an equivalency between Irish and English versions of names.

    Once you have official ID and proof of address with the Irish version of your name, it should not be a problem. I would suggest sending a letter to their customer care office.

    This is completely daft.

    There is no different versions of a name ffs, your name is your name - it does not translate.

    If you're born Sean then your name is Sean. Everywhere. It doesn't magically become John unless you change it legally, at which point your name is no longer Sean anywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I had the same issue OP! Only I wanted to change it to DROP TABLE EMPLOYEE;


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭humbert


    biko wrote: »
    I had the same issue OP! Only I wanted to change it to DROP TABLE EMPLOYEE;
    I went instead for the Irish version '; UPDATE Accounts SET balance=1000000 WHERE name='humbert';--


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭JOSman


    I think the ruling for official document name change, is what you have normally been called over the years (not what you changed it to yesterday). Deed pole not necessary but may require a court appearance for an official stamp.

    Ulster bank are just been obnoxious, easier to change banks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,885 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    It used to be that only the names you were given were recorded on your birth cert - I was named Julius and my father's name was Sean O'Donnell, and my mother was Mary O'Donnell nee McGuire, but my surname wasn't recorded. That was the reason why a change in your first (given) name required Deed Poll.

    The surname was just the name you were known by, and you could change this easily - as women do when they marry. But the given name was awkward to change.

    (This was changed in the mid-90s iirc, and now the child has to have a surname recorded on the Birth Cert.)



    Passport control used to be great in "oh, that's my name in Irish, and that's why it's different to the one on my driver's licence/ticket/whatever". Alas, those days are gone.



    But the Passport Office will issue you a certificate to say that Seamus is my name as Gaeilge. So Ulster Bank can put that in their pipe and smoke it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    You need to up your game here OP , tell the bank your on a witness protection scheme and tell them you want to lodge your "grass" money ,a cool quarter of a milli.on each month


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  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seanoge wrote: »
    I was born in Donegal and was christened John but was called Sean since I can remember. None of that mattered until the last 5 years or so, now it's I.D everywhere. Some people cannot get their heads round the Sean/John name. I have changed my Passport & driving license from John to Sean with no problems but with Ulster bank it's NOT POSSIBLE. I must close our joint account, notify all direct debits and open a new account in the name Sean!.
    I think it will be easier to goto another bank.

    If you've been called Sean for 68 years, how did your passport, driving license and bank account end up to the name of John in the first place?

    If someone went into my bank and said "I'd like to change the name on account 12345678* ", and the bank said "alright so, just show me your passport and we'll change the name on that account". I would be furious. And I'd lose the few cent I have in there. Surely you can see how that's absolute madness???

    *may not (or may) be my actual bank account number.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    Because that is the name on my birth cert. As I say it was never a problem before computers, now they want to know every small detail about you.
    "I'd like to change the name on account 12345678* - It's not so simple. You must provide your card and pin number so if the baddie already had those he would not need to disturb the bank assistant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,652 ✭✭✭fasttalkerchat


    When I set up paypal I was using my mums bank account so I though I had to have the same name on the account. Years later they refused to let me put it in my name.
    It has my email address and Date of Birth but her name!
    Last week they called me to alert me to an issue on the account but couldn't tell me what it was without speaking to my mum first! I'm 23 years old!
    I offered to give her mobile number so they could speak to her and she could pass the details on to me but they couldn't do that because it wasn't the number on the account.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Get married then they'll have to accept your new name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    OP you just need to subscribe, then you can change your name to whatever you want :)

    I can't fcuking believe that this is what I thought of when I read the OP. :/


    *closes account*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,785 ✭✭✭Ihatecuddles-old


    Admin should change his name to Johnoge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭seanoge


    ULSTER SAYS YES!
    Local branch just call to say it's not a problem anymore. Just need Birth cert. & Passport.


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