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a question on the old days of comms

  • 16-10-2013 11:39am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭


    I was having a nostalgic conversation earlier about the good ol' days of 56K modems and the joys thereof. I had a look at the wikipedia article on them and something is confusing me. In the section on speed it says :
    In 8-N-1 connections (1 start bit, 8 data bits, No parity bit, 1 stop bit), which were typical before LAPM became widespread, the actual throughput is a maximum of 5.6 kilobits per second, since ten bits are transmitted for every 8-bit byte

    56K modems ran at 56kilobits a second nominal speed. that is 7 kilobytes a second. take off the start and stop bits that leaves 5.6 kilobytes a second actual throughput. where is the article getting 5.6 kilobits a second from?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭niallb


    It's a mistake. 56k modems would transfer close to 5 kilobytes per second.

    56k modems varied wildly though, and depending on your ISP, you might as well have had a 33k one, because that was as fast as the shared standards would go.
    Generally a good link would give you transfers of about 3.5kb per second.
    If you did your homework and bought a modem that supported the same standards as your ISP's on the other end you might stretch it a bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    thanks for confirming that i havent gone totally senile. I would edit the article and correct the mistake but i'm sure some cretin would come along 5 minutes later and revert the change. Now excuse me while i go and tell some kids to get off my lawn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭rozeboosje


    ZOMG how did people ever get pr0n in them days?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    56k modem? Luxury!! ... my first foray into the online world (Bix (Byte Information eXchange) and CompuServe) was done using a 300bps acoustic coupler :D

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_coupler


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    you must be even older than me. I think i remember using an acoustic coupler to connect to a bulletin board but i dont think it was as slow as 300 baud.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Yes, I'm pretty ancient :D Acoustic modems were only 150 or 300bps IIRC. After that it was good old Hayes or Hayes compatible modems from 1200bps upwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭rozeboosje


    BUT YOU COULD ALMOST TRIGGER WWIII WITH THOSE I KNOW IT'S TRUE I SAW IT IN A MOVIE ONCE O_o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    that wasnt a movie it was a documentary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭FSL


    The first data transmission I used involved an audio coupler and the data was transferred from a reel of magnetic tape on one end to another on the other. The state of the art mainframe, an IBM 360/50, had 512k bytes of memory. The data transmission was a completely separate unit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭niallb


    Anyone else remember building a light sensor and taping it to the television during a BBC show to download software encoded into light pulses...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭MrTime


    niallb wrote: »
    Anyone else remember building a light sensor and taping it to the television during a BBC show to download software encoded into light pulses...

    Think it was Tomorrows world on BBC
    a BASIC program
    recorded to audio cassette

    probably for BBC micro ; or maybe even Sinclair ZX80


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭niallb


    MrTime wrote: »
    Think it was Tomorrows world on BBC
    a BASIC program
    recorded to audio cassette

    probably for BBC micro ; or maybe even Sinclair ZX80

    Close - ZX-81!


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