Hungry Muslims eating dogs?

Hitchens

http://www.thejournal.ie/syria-cats-dogs-donkeys-1131476-Oct2013/


They're making it up as they go along.......so much for the koran!

dharma200

Who's making up what

Seachmall

"Hungry Muslim-Eating Dogs" would've been a better headline.

Hitchens

Hitchens wrote: »

They're making it up as they go along.......so much for the koran!

They are starving.

Femme_Fatale

Why did you ignore this bit OP?

“We issued a religious edict allowing people to eat dog and cat meat. Not because it is religiously permitted, but because it is a reflection of the reality we are suffering”

seamus

Hitchens wrote: »

They're making it up as they go along.......so much for the koran!

So...just like all religion then.

In reality these guys should be applauded. They've effectively said, "Forget what the koran says, if you're dying with hunger, do what you have to do". Which is a rare moment of compassion and sense that you don't normally see in religious fundamentalism.

dharma200

So much for empathy for humanity... Wtf has the Koran gotta do with people who are so hungry they will eat anything.

Reminds me of the lack of empathy people had a few years ago with a race and religion of people who were so persecuted a good few million of them died, while other who were in privelidge made jokes and stupid comments about their religion and thought they were smart

hansfrei

Sausage dogs?

MadYaker

This will end well.

Hitchens

hunger is great sauce

Killer Wench

What's wrong with eating dogs? Is it that its starving individuals looking for an adequate source of protein? Or is it because they happen to be Muslim? Hopefully, this thread isn't an attempt to bash people of a particular religion.

ted1

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Why did you ignore this bit OP?

Because it wouldn't fit in well with his bigotry comment.

You know Indians think were mad for eating cows.

The One Who Knocks

Mmmmm

What's so wrong with that?

Hitchens

seamus wrote: »

So...just like all religion then.

In reality these guys should be applauded. They've effectively said, "Forget what the koran says, if you're dying with hunger, do what you have to do". Which is a rare moment of compassion and sense that you don't normally see in religious fundamentalism.

proper order

Hande hoche!

Killer Wench wrote: »

What's wrong with eating dogs? Is it that its starving individuals looking for an adequate source of protein? Or is it because they happen to be Muslim? Hopefully, this thread isn't an attempt to bash people of a particular religion.

Your dog may eat you given the opportunity http://www.thelocal.se/50770/20131014/

Hitchens

Killer Wench wrote: »

What's wrong with eating dogs? Is it that its starving individuals looking for an adequate source of protein? Or is it because they happen to be Muslim? Hopefully, this thread isn't an attempt to bash people of a particular religion.

nothing wrong with eating dogs

dharma200

Well done anyway for your contribution to humanity

Killer Wench

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Your dog may eat you given the opportunity http://www.thelocal.se/50770/20131014/

True that. I'd like to think that the dog was eating the infection off of his owner. The guy plans to keep the dog. Here in the States, I'm fairly certain that the dog would be put down.

losthorizon

Hitchens wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/syria-cats-dogs-donkeys-1131476-Oct2013/


They're making it up as they go along.......so much for the koran!

How about contributing some money to the Red Cross. They are helping in Syria

http://www.redcross.ie/news/appeals/syria-crisis-appeal/

Hungry religious people would rather starve to death than disobey the good book, or kill others who disobey the good book, so this seems to be a practical solution to a dilemma that has no real good outcome. Putting dogs and other animals on the "permitted" list is better than people starving to death.

bbam

Hitchens wrote: »

nothing wrong with eating dogs

I ate dog a few years ago.
Was in a sort of stew with veg and the like..
To be honest it was fine, bit chewy but manageable..

I can't see what the fuss is about..

Hitchens

bbam wrote: »

I ate dog a few years ago.
Was in a sort of stew with veg and the like..
To be honest it was fine, bit chewy but manageable..

I can't see what the fuss is about..

I love dogs

kowloon

Sometimes it makes sense to relax the rules a little, perhaps they see a higher morality at play here. Like that time the RCC allowed polygamy in Paraguay.

Jonny7

Hitchens wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/syria-cats-dogs-donkeys-1131476-Oct2013/


They're making it up as they go along.......so much for the koran!

They are starving to death

not something to grave-dance about

Benny_Cake

bbam wrote: »

I ate dog a few years ago.
Was in a sort of stew with veg and the like..
To be honest it was fine, bit chewy but manageable..

I can't see what the fuss is about..

No fuss really, just seems to be an excuse to have a pop at Muslims. Muslims whose country has been torn to shreds and who are starving. Classy.

Lapin

Seachmall wrote: »

"Hungry Muslim-Eating Dogs" would've been a better headline.

"Muslim Dog eats Hungarians" would have been even better !

losthorizon

kowloon wrote: »

Sometimes it makes sense to relax the rules a little, perhaps they see a higher morality at play here. Like that time the RCC allowed polygamy in Paraguay.

Or when the GAA allowed Sokker ar Croke Park although Sean Kelly has recently claimed that many elements within the GAA still havent forgiven him.

Civil wars are always terrible. The Irish Civil War being no different. Events like Ballyseedy prove we are no better or worse than anyone else.

Karl Stein

Getting a buzz out of their misfortune OP?

peace2804

Deleted User wrote: »

Hungry religious people would rather starve to death than disobey the good book, or kill others who disobey the good book, so this seems to be a practical solution to a dilemma that has no real good outcome. Putting dogs and other animals on the "permitted" list is better than people starving to death.

You jumped to a conclusion without even knowing the facts of this particular religion.....at least search the web for a proper correct answer.

Apparently God in Islam permits and allows Muslims to eat any meat (including pork, dogs, cats....) if there are no other meats available and if their life is in danger.

peace2804

peace2804 wrote: »

You jumped to a conclusion without even knowing the facts of this particular religion.....at least search the web for a proper correct answer.

Apparently God in Islam permits and allows Muslims to eat any meat (including pork, dogs, cats....) if there are no other meats available and if their life is in danger.

So why was a fatwa issued to permit the eating of dog?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24532793
A group of Syrian clerics have issued a ruling - or fatwa - allowing people living in besieged suburbs of Damascus to eat meat that is normally forbidden.
In a video, the Muslim clerics said people could eat cats, dogs and donkeys to stave off hunger.
The fatwa comes amid reports of starvation in the besieged, rebel-held Damascus suburb of Muadhamiya.
Aid agencies have urged the government to allow humanitarian supplies to the area, where many residents are trapped.
Hundreds of civilians, some carried on stretchers, were able to flee Muadhamiya at the weekend following a temporary ceasefire.
'Absurd situation' In a message to coincide with the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Adha - normally a time for celebration and feasting - the religious leaders authorised those left in the Ghouta agricultural belt around Damascus to eat animals usually considered unfit for human consumption in Islam.

anncoates

Some fantastic, pithy contributions to the thread thus far from the OP and a devastating body blow to the solar plexus of religion.

I'm afraid to nod off here on the couch lest I miss any more.

I wonder if, in a couple of hundred years, will the descendents of those who didn't eat the dog look down their noses at the descendents of those that did and refer to them as the ones 'who took the dog'.

Hitchens

does the dog have to be slaughtered halal style?

HighClass

"Starving people forced to eat dogs" surely would have been a better title?

Birroc

I ate dog once in Hong Kong. It was only ok. Did it for the experience but was too conscious of it to enjoy.

wes

Deleted User wrote: »

So why was a fatwa issued to permit the eating of dog?

To let people who maybe didn't know about previous edicts know that it was ok.

When, I was a kid, we were told, that in situations, were there was no Halaal meat available, and people were hungry, it was ok to eat it, and that various other Religious edicts could be ignored if it meant saving your life. There is technically no need for a Fatwa for situations like this, but sure why not make one, if it means that some folks who otherwise might have gone hungry won't now.

Anyway, going to go donate some money for Syria, after seeing how bad things are.

Also, the op is pretty nasty imho. Using the suffering of people, to have a go at them. Out of order imho.

Seaneh

Deleted User wrote: »

So why was a fatwa issued to permit the eating of dog?

Because some people will stick to Halal rules even when starving.
Muslims are allowed to break Halal rules when no other food is available.

The Clerics are just making it "official" so that people don't starve needlessly.

General General

Eh, Tesco something something.

Nodin

HighClass wrote: »

"Starving people forced to eat dogs" surely would have been a better title?

...that wouldn't have the muslim bashing element, however.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

Hitchens wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/syria-cats-dogs-donkeys-1131476-Oct2013/


They're making it up as they go along.......so much for the koran!

You must be happy that the thought of starving women and children allows you to pursue your odious agenda.

up for anything

Sir Humphrey Appleby wrote: »

You must be happy that the thought of starving women and children allows you to pursue your odious agenda.

And men.

I'm surprised that I've woken up this morning and that the OP is still here. I've seen less pulled up immediately. Better register my disgust via the report button.

Sir Humphrey Appleby

up for anything wrote: »

Better register my disgust via the report button.

+100
Same here.

Supercell

I ate dog in China before, was nice with a coriander sauce.

Oranage2

Very unfair to use people's extreme suffering to have a go at Islam.

Cork24

What ever happened to the days when both enemy's meet on an open battle feild limiting the civilian population to the war, no into days warfare it's an easy way of causing suffering is by going after the civilians of your enemy

danniemcq

Enough, Shock headlines misleading readers, making a mockery of their religion and their suffering at the same time? just no