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Torqay

Just watched this documentary of Formula 1's deadliest period. (the narrator is Michael Fassbender)

Gripping stuff really. I still remember the day Jochen Rindt died in Monza.

"Riding on board" with Ayrton Senna on his 1989 qualifying lap in Monaco is quite something, scary as hell.

ZiabR

Torqay wrote: »

Just watched this documentary of Formula 1's deadliest period. (the narrator is Michael Fassbender)

Gripping stuff really. I still remember the day Jochen Rindt died in Monza.

"Riding on board" with Ayrton Senna on his 1989 qualifying lap in Monaco is quite something, scary as hell.

Great watch alright. Remember that Senna's McLaren was pushing out close to 1100BHP which is just insane when trying to control a manual gearbox and keeping the car between the walls.

He was something special alright, I would need a bag of nappies if I attempted it

Every year 24-26 drivers started the championship and every year 2 drivers died... sad times.

Torqay

IIRC, by 1989, the turbos were gone, back to 3.5L enhines.

The most heartwrenching part was David Purley watching his friend Roger Williamson burning to death. It's said the other drivers thought Purley had escaped a crash, trying to extinguish his own burning wreck and all was hunkey-dorey, I have trouble believing that.

ZiabR

Torqay wrote: »

IIRC, by 1989, the turbos were gone, back to 3.5L enhines.

The most heartwrenching part was David Purley watching his friend Roger Williamson burning to death. It's said the other drivers thought Purley had escaped a crash, trying to extinguish his own burning wreck and all was hunkey-dorey, I have trouble believing that.

You are correct, thanks for correcting me, 88 was the last turbo year.

Yeah Roger Williamson burning to death was horrible, makes you realise just how luck Lauda was.

Torqay

logik wrote: »

makes you realise just how luck Lauda was.

Hunt's girlfriend was right, that accident gave Lauda what he didn't have, charisma, although the charisma of a mad man.

ZiabR

Torqay wrote: »

Hunt's girlfriend was right, that accident gave Lauda what he didn't have, charisma, although the charisma of a mad man.

Very true, it changed him for the better, as bad as that sounds.

Torqay

Indeed, he was widely loathed for his perfectionism and he certainly had no time for the "hippies" around him.

Torqay

OSI wrote: »

Trying to search for "1" in Google is a recipe for disaster.

True.

Here's the IMDB link. Also on Facebook.

ScumLord

It was a good documentary but pretty much just an Americanised version of the same documentary the BBC did last year.

Torqay

ScumLord wrote: »

It was a good documentary but pretty much just an Americanised version of the same documentary the BBC did last year.

Wait until you see Rush and you'll know "Americanised".

Ghost Train

OSI wrote: »

Looks good. But they could have picked a better name. Trying to search for "1" in Google is a recipe for disaster. Only seems to be on the US iTunes store, to?

+1

TouchingVirus

This looks amazing. As for finding it, it's ...around

Torqay

I have mentioned Jacky Ickx in another thread. He's being villified in 1 as the driver who boycotted all efforts for more security. On the other hand they spend a great deal on the rivalry between Hunt and Lauda which of course is the subject of the movie Rush.

What they did not mention was Lauda's utterly shameful remarks after Roger Williamson burned to death. Asked why he didn't stop to help Purley, Lauda famously said, "Ich werde für's Fahren und nicht für's Parken bezahlt." (I am paid for driving, not for parking)

Myrddin

Torqay wrote: »

What they did not mention was Lauda's utterly shameful remarks after Roger Williamson burned to death. Asked why he didn't stop to help Purley, Lauda famously said, "Ich werde für's Fahren und nicht für's Parken bezahlt." (I am paid for driving, not for parking)

Incredible :eek:

donspeekinglesh

Lauda wasn't the only one with that attitude. Phil Hill once said (and then it was used in Grand Prix by Sarti):

I used to go to pieces. I'd see an accident like that and be so weak inside that I wanted to quit - stop the car and walk away. I could hardly make myself go past it. But I'm older now. When I see something really horrible, I put my foot down. Hard! Because I know that everyone else is lifting his.

ScumLord

Torqay wrote: »

What they did not mention was Lauda's utterly shameful remarks after Roger Williamson burned to death. Asked why he didn't stop to help Purley, Lauda famously said, "Ich werde für's Fahren und nicht für's Parken bezahlt." (I am paid for driving, not for parking)

He had a point and if he phrased it differently it's a good point.

A driver stopping on track is only adding more danger, it shouldn't happen. I know back then nobody else seemed to care enough to give the proper kind of help but even so drivers getting involved is not making things better.

PopePalpatine

To be fair to Lauda, he did say that before his own life-threatening crash. I doubt he'll look back on those remarks fondly.

Torqay

ScumLord wrote: »

He had a point and if he phrased it differently it's a good point.

A driver stopping on track is only adding more danger, it shouldn't happen. I know back then nobody else seemed to care enough to give the proper kind of help but even so drivers getting involved is not making things better.

It certainly did make things better for Niki Lauda.

I was around that time and I remember the brutality of the sport all to well, but for Lauda it was always much more than sport. He certainly helped to commercialise Formula 1, his comeback was solely money-driven as his "airline" was on the verge of bankruptcy and McLaren welcomed a big name to attract sponsoring money. Lauda made $1.5m alone just from selling spots for stickers on his race overall when he returned to F1.

One might call it honesty but I say this was absolutely uncalled for. He could have just turned around and said nothing.

The scene is described as follows on Wikipedia:

As most racers mistakenly identified Purley as the driver of the crashed car, and therefore thought the burning car to be empty, none of them stopped to help and the race continued, even as Purley stood on the circuit and gestured with his hands for them to stop.

I think (now this is my personal opinion), they knew bloody well what was happening but race control did not stop the race so there were points to be won, end of story. If it wasn't for Williamson's horrible death, this might well have been Lauda's fate three years later.

TCP/IP

Anybody know were to watch this documentary only found it on iTunes US store

andyman

Ficus wrote: »

i watched it on youtube the other day.
Wasnt as great as id heard but i suppose any movie/documentary on motorsport is a good thing.

Link?

TCP/IP

Finally got around to watching this last night. Really enjoyed it and very well made must watch for any F1 fan.