Difficulty of doing the Driving Test in other Countries

Red Kev

Article here in todays Guardian, some interesting reading, Egypt, Pakistan and Texas (!) sound laughably easy.

The Finnish have an interesting approach to it, might be something in that that we could introduce here.

FWIW I think we should make it compulsory for anybody banned for 12 months to resit the test, and a smaller competency test for over 70's to be sat every 5 years. I know this will affect some people living in rural areas (as I do) but some elderly people are regrettably simply unfit to be behind the wheel.

As Ed Miliband attempts to promote the independence of Britain's youth by lowering the voting age, the coalition is threatening to clip teenagers' wings by raising the driving age to 18. Although considering the fact that 20% of the deaths on Britain's roads involve 17-24-year-olds, despite them making up just 5% of the traffic, perhaps it's not a bad idea.

The UK has one of the world's lowest rates for traffic-related deaths, at 5.1 fatalities per 100,000 motor vehicles per year, which is 20 times less than that South Africa. Considering the renowned difficulty of South Africa's driving test, this might seem surprising. Drivers can lose points for not checking beneath the car for leaks, not engaging the handbrake silently every time they stop, and will automatically fail if the vehicle rolls even an inch backwards. But because it's so hard to even schedule, let alone pass, a South African driving test, corruption is rife, with three in five young people claiming to know someone who paid to ensure a pass.

So if making your driving test too difficult is no way to ensure safer roads, what about making it too easy? Until recently, Egyptians who wanted to get behind the wheel needed only to prove they could drive forward six metres and then reverse six metres. It has since been toughened up; drivers now take a theory test, and both the forward and reverse aspects now include a bend.

Pakistan's test is similarly challenging. Once you've proved you can read a number plate from 20.5m, you simply drive through a short track marked out by cones, then reverse back. Then you're free to take your chances on some of the most congested roads in the world. India, too, shows remarkable trust in its drivers. In New Delhi, as long as you can drive around a block without hitting anything, you should be OK, and it was only recently that it become obligatory for the examiner to actually sit in the car. Before, they'd simply observe several drivers at once from across the car park.

China's theory test poses some questions that might baffle British drivers. What should you do if your car falls into water, for example? Put a plastic bag over your heard and "close the neck tightly", according to the Chinese government.

It seems that the obstacle course, though rarely seen on roads, is a popular choice with examiners. Russia's includes a slalom between poles, after which drivers must accelerate to speed from a standing start then brake before a designated marker without leaving skidmarks. Japan's obstacle course mocks up entire city streets, as does Saudi Arabia. (Although for many the toughest obstacle there is the ownership of a penis – it's the only country in the world that bans women from driving.)

In Texas, it's rare for prospective drivers to actually have to deal with real streets – instead, 16-year-olds prove they can navigate cones, parallel park and three-point-turn in the safety of the test centre, before being unleashed on the roads where the fatality rate is three times higher than the UK.

In Scandinavia, however, getting a licence is an arduous process, with driving tests that take into account the area's rather more challenging conditions. Prospective Finnish drivers must log at least 18 hours of lessons, and then pass a two-part test. The first element consists of a theory exam and urban driving, and once drivers prove they can parallel park, they're given a two-year licence. In this interim period they then need to complete advanced driving school, which includes night-time driving – often done with a simulator.

Still, even if the driving licence age is raised, Britain's 17-year-olds needn't lose their independence. They can still apply for a private pilot's licence, which grants them the right to pilot a single-engine aircraft, helicopter, or airship. After all, who wants to pootle around in a 10-year-old Peugeot, when they could travel by zeppelin?

CiniO

I've done 6 driving tests altogether so far in my life.
5 were done in Poland - 2 fails and 3 passes.
1 was done in Ireland and I passed.

IMHO passing in Ireland was easier.

wonski

Red Kev wrote: »

The Finnish have an interesting approach to it, might be something in that that we could introduce here.

If the RSA reduced waiting times for test. People still wait 2-3 months for test. This clearly won't work.

Sammy_Jankis

I have both irish and Floridian license. Have the irish one 7 years an the latter 4.

American one was a joke. I left work at 3pm. Went to the dmv, did the eye and practical test. Got insured on a friends car to simply drive around a carpark. Did some simple manoeuvres eg. Emergency stop. Park in 4 cones and turn left. That's it.

Then 2 and a half hours later I walked away with a license.

Funny thing was an english female friend of mine failed. Her reason was that the pedals were opposite!

Dord

The Brazilian test involves a psychological assessment. We should have that here to be honest. :eek:

wotzgoingon

CiniO wrote: »

I've done 6 driving tests altogether so far in my life.
5 were done in Poland - 2 fails and 3 passes.
1 was done in Ireland and I passed.

IMHO passing in Ireland was easier.

What's the point of doing a driving test 4 times? One licence not enough?

wonski

wotzgoingon wrote: »

What's the point of doing a driving test 4 times? One licence not enough?

Different categories I guess:rolleyes:

wotzgoingon

wonski wrote: »

Different categories I guess:rolleyes:

Oh yeah, never thought of that.

COYVB

Sammy_Jankis wrote: »

Funny thing was an english female friend of mine failed. Her reason was that the pedals were opposite!

but the pedals are in the same order from left to right in both left and right hand drive cars?

COYVB

CiniO wrote: »

I've done 6 driving tests altogether so far in my life.
5 were done in Poland - 2 fails and 3 passes.
1 was done in Ireland and I passed.

IMHO passing in Ireland was easier.

Done 2 driving tests, one in Ireland and one in Canada (passed both first time), and the Irish one was a LOT more thorough. The Canadian one wasn't exactly a formality or anything, but the standard is far worse here

RandomAccess

COYVB wrote: »

but the pedals are in the same order from left to right in both left and right hand drive cars?

Maybe nobody told her that

Rasmus

COYVB wrote: »

but the pedals are in the same order from left to right in both left and right hand drive cars?

In stick shift cars it's the same. I think maybe in automatics the way it lines up depends. I think.

COYVB

Rasmus wrote: »

In stick shift cars it's the same. I think maybe in automatics the way it lines up depends. I think.

ive driven manual in ireland and drive an automatic in canada - the pedal order is universal from my experiences

Sammy_Jankis

COYVB wrote: »

but the pedals are in the same order from left to right in both left and right hand drive cars?

I know. She was just a retard! She passed it the second time.

Rasmus

COYVB wrote: »

ive driven manual in ireland and drive an automatic in canada - the pedal order is universal from my experiences

Yeah you're right. I was trying to think back when I drove an automatic and came to the conclusion that it's the same - with or without a clutch the pedals go from left to right, with the gas pedal on the right.

CiniO

wotzgoingon wrote: »

What's the point of doing a driving test 4 times? One licence not enough?

3 different categories of licence.

Plus once I had to repeat B category test, as I exceeded penalty points limit.