American Football star's son(2) dies after assault

Rayne Wooney

The 2-year-old son of National Football League's Most Valuable Player Adrian Peterson died on Friday after being allegedly assaulted by his mother's boyfriend.

(CNN) - A 2-year-old boy who was reportedly the son of Minnesota Vikings star Adrian Peterson died Friday of injuries he suffered after allegedly being abused, police said.

Sioux Falls, South Dakota, police said Joseph Robert Patterson, 27, has been charged with aggravated battery of an infant and aggravated assault. If convicted on the charges, both felonies, Patterson could face up to 40 years in prison and an $80,000 fine.

Authorities determined that the child had suffered injuries to his head consistent with abuse, according to Clemens. Police said Patterson, whom they described as the boyfriend of the injured child's mother, was the only other person in the residence at the time.

The suspect -- who was given suspended sentences a year ago for simple domestic assault and violation of a domestic abuse bond, both misdemeanors -- was arrested Thursday night, said Lincoln County, South Dakota, State's Attorney Tom Wollman. A judge set his bail at $750,000 cash during his initial court appearance Friday, according to Clemens.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/11/us/adrian-peterson-son-alleged-assault/index.html

There's some sick f*ckers out there.

Horrible story really, in a case like this I'd love for the guy to be put in a room with the 217 pound running back father for an hour.

Tributes flowing in from the stars on social media now. RIP to the little guy.

Cody Pomeray

I'm so tempted to not post anything till the RABBLE RABBLE crowd dies down, but

... why should a man who batters a child until that child is quite dead not have his own life extinguished?

What is the value, or the human cost, of that man to the human race?

Gatling

7.62 Justice,

plain and simple

Timmyctc

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I'm so tempted to not post anything till the RABBLE RABBLE crowd dies down, but

... why should a man who batters a child until that child is quite dead not have his own life extinguished?

What is the value, or the human cost, of that man to the human race?

Then in turn, what is the value of the life of the person who kills him, who kills a killer, does that make the subsequent killer a good killer or a bad killer, can you distinguish between different killers. Where do we draw the line.. oh and finally

There, thats saved about 100 posts.

Cody Pomeray

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I'm so tempted to not post anything till the RABBLE RABBLE crowd dies down, but

... why should a man who batters a child until that child is quite dead not have his own life extinguished?

What is the value, or the human cost, of that man to the human race?

Please hold, someone will answer your query shortly

Timmyctc

Gatling wrote: »

7.62 Justice, plain and simple

6.25" I call it the Punisher

EDIT: Sorry I thought we were giving our Penis sizes and nicknames..

wazky

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

What is the value, or the human cost, of that man to the human race?

Death would be too easy a fate for people who can commit crimes such as this though, rotting in some hole for the rest of his life would be more fitting I think.

Cody Pomeray

Timmyctc wrote: »

Then in turn, what is the value of the life of the person who kills him, who kills a killer, does that make the subsequent killer a good killer or a bad killer, can you distinguish between different killers.

Why not?

You can distinguish between different jailer's can't you?

The prison guard does his job lawfully (we should hope), the kidnapper does not.

I don't really see your question as useful, no offence intended

Timmyctc

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

Why not?

You can distinguish between different jailer's can't you?

The prison guard does his job lawfully (we should hope), the kidnapper does not.

I don't really see your question as useful, no offence intended

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. I hope that vague statement clears everything up.

ringadingding

Timmyctc wrote: »

6.25" I call it the Punisher

EDIT: Sorry I thought we were giving our Penis sizes and nicknames..

Are you cracking jokes on a thread about a 2 year old being murdered ?
What a fûckîng dickhead

crockholm

Timmyctc wrote: »

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. I hope that vague statement clears everything up.

Keep fiddling away with "The Punisher" yourself and you'll go blind too.

131spanner

Right in the feels.

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/adrian-peterson-with-son-adrian-jr-after-vikings-training-camp-aww__oPt.jpg

Karl Stein

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

why should a man who batters a child until that child is quite dead not have his own life extinguished

Because you become like him.

Timmyctc

ringadingding wrote: »

Are you cracking jokes on a thread about a 2 year old being murdered ?
What a fûckîng dickhead

No, I cracked one joke that had nothing to do with a 2 year old being murdered. Did you read the comment?

P_1

Disgusting thing for any person to do. I'd hate to be a member of the Carolina Panthers D come Sunday as I can see AP taking his anger out on them

ringadingding

Ah look maybe I'm jumping the gun,
Today I've read 4 stories about kids being abused, starved, killed.

It's really crushed my day, maybe Being too sensitive.

I just don't see how people can harm kids, my little lad has this 100% trust in his eyes when he sees me.
How can people betray that trust and hurt a child.

Cody Pomeray

Charlie Rock wrote: »

Because you become like him.

I don't understand how this works.

The prison guard who locks Ariel Castro's cell door at night time, is he as guilty as Ariel Castro?

Maybe our laws should recognize that we have lawful authority to deprive people of even their most fundamental freedoms, including liberty, including life.

that is a genuine question, by the way. Not rhetorical. It's a question I geneuinely find difficult to say No to.

Smidge

131spanner wrote: »

Right in the feels.

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/adrian-peterson-with-son-adrian-jr-after-vikings-training-camp-aww__oPt.jpg

That's heartbreaking

B.A._Baracus

Timmyctc wrote: »

Then in turn, what is the value of the life of the person who kills him, who kills a killer, does that make the subsequent killer a good killer or a bad killer, can you distinguish between different killers. Where do we draw the line

Never got that mentality.
If someone is evil... and if given the chance would do serious evil acts again ... why dont we put them down like a dog. I mean we put down a dog if it ever bites a person because it's seen as "too wild and uncontrollable" - I think we can all agree that there are people in this world who are basically animals. So why should we value their lives?

Standard Toaster

Poor lil guy, rip.
Sad thing is its only news because his father is a 'celeb', the world is fuxjed up.

Timmyctc

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Never got that mentality.
If someone is evil... and if given the chance would do serious evil acts again ... why dont we put them down like a dog. I mean we put down a dog if it ever bites a person because it's seen as "too wild and uncontrollable" - I think we can all agree that there are people in this world who are basically animals. So why should we value their lives?

I actually disagree with putting down dogs if they bite someone. If they're rabid and uncontrollable maybe. But at the same time that is all irrelevant. We are not dogs. We are far more intelligent. And someone who commits murder wont be able to commit these acts again as they'll get jailed for the rest of their lives. Which imo is a better punishment than a quick painless death.

humbert

Timmyctc wrote: »

Then in turn, what is the value of the life of the person who kills him, who kills a killer, does that make the subsequent killer a good killer or a bad killer, can you distinguish between different killers. Where do we draw the line.. oh and finally



There, thats saved about 100 posts.

I guess that would be ethics, the foundation of the laws themselves. The only problem I have with the death penalty is the possibility of a mistake, which doesn't seem possible here.

B.A._Baracus

Timmyctc wrote: »

I actually disagree with putting down dogs if they bite someone. If they're rabid and uncontrollable maybe. But at the same time that is all irrelevant. We are not dogs. We are far more intelligent. And someone who commits murder wont be able to commit these acts again as they'll get jailed for the rest of their lives. Which imo is a better punishment than a quick painless death.

You say that because "out of sight, out of mind" - but yet people would have to deal with them. Guards, nurses, prison staff, other prisoners etc. The risk of more evil acts.

That's something i've noticed about people. Morals often come into play when they, or those closest to them, don't have to deal with the issue. Like a child sex offender who did his time. The same people who would say "he did his time, let him be" would be the same to create a sh*tstorm if they moved in to the same neighbourhood.

Guess it's easier to take a moralistic stance when there is no danger to thy self

Cody Pomeray

Timmyctc wrote: »

And someone who commits murder wont be able to commit these acts again as they'll get jailed for the rest of their lives. Which imo is a better punishment than a quick painless death.

And yet murders happen in prison. These murderers retain their lives, their interactions, their projects, their personal interests - although limited - sustain their humanity.

What is the normal reaction when some war criminal charged with genocide, like Slobadon Milosevic, dies in his cell?

Well, spitting on his grave would be an understatement. Triumpalism would be another word. I personally would be glad to trample on that man's head.

I am generally opposed to the death penalty. However, maybe we should consider situations where there is just no way back to civilised society.

Timmyctc

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

You say that because "out of sight, out of mind" - but yet people would have to deal with them. Guards, nurses, prison staff, other prisoners etc. The risk of more evil acts.

That's something i've noticed about people. Morals often come into play when they, or those closest to them, don't have to deal with the issue. Like a child sex offender who did his time. The same people who would say "he did his time, let him be" would be the same to create a sh*tstorm if they moved in to the same neighbourhood.

Guess it's easier to take a moralistic stance when there is no danger to thy self

You've literally just made a load of assumptions about my views in this post then lumped me in with "People" a generalisation of I don't even know what. I wouldn't kick up a fuss if someone was fairly sentenced for a crime and served their full sentence and were judged to no longer be a harm to society; then moved in my neighborhood. I'd be cautious granted but thats it.

Nor did I object to the death penalty because I view prisoners as out of sight out of mind.

You assumed I would though to forward your argument? Though so ... okay?

Karl Stein

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

The prison guard who locks Ariel Castro's cell door at night time, is he as guilty as Ariel Castro?

No, because he's not going to rape him and deprive him of contact with the outside world forcing people who once knew him to wonder forever more what happened to him. He had access to a degree of dignity in jail that his victims would have probably considered relative luxury. He had access to a system that ensures he would never be treated as badly as how he treated his victims.

B.A._Baracus

Timmyctc wrote: »

You've literally just made a load of assumptions about my views in this post then lumped me in with "People" a generalisation of I don't even know what. I wouldn't kick up a fuss if someone was fairly sentenced for a crime and served their full sentence and were judged to no longer be a harm to society; then moved in my neighborhood. I'd be cautious granted but thats it.

Nor did I object to the death penalty because I view prisoners as out of sight out of mind.

You assumed I would though to forward your argument? Though so ... okay?

Well you did say .... (which started off our discussion)

Timmyctc wrote: »

Then in turn, what is the value of the life of the person who kills him, who kills a killer, does that make the subsequent killer a good killer or a bad killer, can you distinguish between different killers. Where do we draw the line

There are assumptions and then acting/reacting to a persons following comments. But then again, you also did say ....

Timmyctc wrote: »

6.25" I call it the Punisher

EDIT: Sorry I thought we were giving our Penis sizes and nicknames..

A joke in a thread about a child's death.... erm perhaps we just end things here.

KERSPLAT!

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I'm so tempted to not post anything till the RABBLE RABBLE crowd dies down, but

... why should a man who batters a child until that child is quite dead not have his own life extinguished?

What is the value, or the human cost, of that man to the human race?

I understand what you're saying but my opinion is, let them rot. Killing people like that, along with other sick ****s, is too good for them, let's them off lightly IMO

jank

Charlie Rock wrote: »

No, because he's not going to rape him and deprive him of contact with the outside world forcing people who once knew him to wonder forever more what happened to him. He had access to a degree of dignity in jail that his victims would have probably considered relative luxury. He had access to a system that ensures he would never be treated as badly as how he treated his victims.

That is something I never understand. We treat violent criminals with more sympathy and more righteousness that we do the victims 'cause that is how civilised societies are run'!

We have a system of courts and laws where by if one comments a crime they are dealt with. However, these people continue to treat the system with contempt and most re-offend never mind that there are many cases where people are released on bail from prison to commit murder as in the case of Jill Meagher in Melbourne.

RIP in to the young lad and I hope they guy gets the Death Penalty if found guilty.

skeleton_boy

The player in question, Adrian Peterson, his brother was killed by a drunk driver when he was 7. Another brother of his was murdered just before he started playing in the NFL. I can't imagine the amount of hurt he has had to deal with.

clairefontaine

If he does not get the death penalty, he should serve his sentence and then be put on a permanent register like the sex offenders register.

When he comes out, of he does, he should also have a restraining order against being near anyone with kids, playgrounds, crèches, schools, etc, and while we are at it lets have him sterilised.

We have one for people who commit sex crimes against a child, but not one for people who kill them. Go figure.

Timmyctc

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Well you did say .... (which started off our discussion)




There are assumptions and then acting/reacting to a persons following comments. But then again, you also did say ....



A joke in a thread about a child's death.... erm perhaps we just end things here.

Neither of these quotes back up any point you have just made??

Perhaps we should just leave it here because you clearly have no idea what point you're arguing. Yeah, a Joke that had 0 to do with the death of a two year old? Did you read the joke?

blackwhite

131spanner wrote: »

Right in the feels.

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/adrian-peterson-with-son-adrian-jr-after-vikings-training-camp-aww__oPt.jpg

You do realise that the kid in the picture (Adrian Jr) is not the child that was killed?

P_1

P_1 wrote: »

Disgusting thing for any person to do. I'd hate to be a member of the Carolina Panthers D come Sunday as I can see AP taking his anger out on them

Id be pretty sure a man who just lost his child will not be running onto the field this Sunday.

blackwhite

Jake1 wrote: »

Id be pretty sure a man who just lost his child will not be running onto the field this Sunday.

AP has confirmed himself that he will

blackwhite

blackwhite wrote: »

AP has confirmed himself that he will

Wow. I must admit Im shocked, as I know I couldnt do it. Yeah, actually Im really shocked.

AndonHandon

Innocent until proven guilty. But if true that is sick.

On the topic of punishment; castration and imprisonment for me would be appropriate.

Chancer3001

Nspcc just had an ad on here during my judge Judy.

Apparently one child is killed every day through abuse in England and Wales.

That's ridiculously high

Dohnny Jepp

Jake1 wrote: »

Wow. I must admit Im shocked, as I know I couldnt do it. Yeah, actually Im really shocked.

Probably willing to do anything that will take his mind off it for even 2 hours.

P_1

Jake1 wrote: »

Wow. I must admit Im shocked, as I know I couldnt do it. Yeah, actually Im really shocked.

People grieve in different ways I presume he wants to dedicate his performance to his son

Napper Hawkins

Charlie Rock wrote: »

Because you become like him.

No, you don't. Are vets who put down dogs murderers?

P_1

P_1 wrote: »

People grieve in different ways I presume he wants to dedicate his performance to his son

true enough, everyone grieves differently.

Einhard

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

I'm so tempted to not post anything till the RABBLE RABBLE crowd dies down, but

... why should a man who batters a child until that child is quite dead not have his own life extinguished?

What is the value, or the human cost, of that man to the human race?

Because we're better than that?

Mr. Nice

I'm guessing that Peterson could afford the 750k bail which would leave the (alleged) killer of his 2 year old son free... to have a freak accident?
If it were me and I could afford the bail, the guy would trip and fall on a knife 60-70 times

Karl Stein

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

No, you don't. Are vets who put down dogs murderers?

No they're saving the creature from an agonising death.

Bit of a dumb question tbh.