Wrong tees - stableford / rulesw clarification.

Arsenium

Another rules question. Cant seem to find it in the decisions book.

So a player plays from the wrong tee markers (white instead of blues). Realises the mistake on the second tee box and calls it on himself.

Rule 11-4 states:

If a competitor, when starting a hole, plays a ball from outside the teeing ground, he incurs a penalty of two strokes and must then play a ball from within the teeing ground.

If the competitor makes a stroke from the next teeing ground without first correcting his mistake or, in the case of the last hole of the round, leaves the putting green without first declaring his intention to correct his mistake, he is disqualified.

So he didnt go back and play another ball from inside the teeing ground, so he is in breach of the rule, so according to this he is disqualified.

My question is, does that mean disqualified from the competition, or from the hole where he made the mistake.

Rule 32-2 describes disqualification penalties for stableford competitions and says that a breach of rule 11-1 is disqualification from the competition, but section b (page 112) says for all other cases where a breach in rule results in disqualification, the competitor is disqualified only for that hole. I think he was in breach of rule 11-4 "Playing from outside teeing ground".

As it happens the guy in question got advice and was told he was disqualified from the competition, and proceeded to have a great round but DQ'd himself.

I think he was a bit hasty.......

GreeBo

Arsenium wrote: »

Another rules question. Cant seem to find it in the decisions book.

So a player plays from the wrong tee markers (white instead of blues). Realises the mistake on the second tee box and calls it on himself.

Rule 11-4 states:

If a competitor, when starting a hole, plays a ball from outside the teeing ground, he incurs a penalty of two strokes and must then play a ball from within the teeing ground.

If the competitor makes a stroke from the next teeing ground without first correcting his mistake or, in the case of the last hole of the round, leaves the putting green without first declaring his intention to correct his mistake, he is disqualified.

So he didnt go back and play another ball from inside the teeing ground, so he is in breach of the rule, so according to this he is disqualified.

My question is, does that mean disqualified from the competition, or from the hole where he made the mistake.

Rule 32-2 describes disqualification penalties for stableford competitions and says that a breach of rule 11-1 is disqualification from the competition, but section b (page 112) says for all other cases where a breach in rule results in disqualification, the competitor is disqualified only for that hole. I think he was in breach of rule 11-4 "Playing from outside teeing ground".

As it happens the guy in question got advice and was told he was disqualified from the competition, and proceeded to have a great round but DQ'd himself.

I think he was a bit hasty.......

That rule is for strokeplay only.

Rule 32-2 lists the rules you can be DQ'd for in stableford,11-1 is one, 11-4 isnt, so assume the above stands.

Arsenium

GreeBo wrote: »

That rule is for strokeplay only.

Rule 32-2 lists the rules you can be DQ'd for in stableford,11-1 is one, 11-4 isnt, so assume the above stands.

Right but for the purposes of the rules, isnt stableford effectively strokeplay? As in you've got matchplay rules and strokeplay rules. Stableford is just an alternative method of recording your score.

When you say "assume the above stands", do you mean you think it was correct for him to be disqualified (from the competition)?

GreeBo

Arsenium wrote: »

Right but for the purposes of the rules, isnt stableford effectively strokeplay? As in you've got matchplay rules and strokeplay rules. Stableford is just an alternative method of recording your score.

When you say "assume the above stands", do you mean you think it was correct for him to be disqualified (from the competition)?

Rule 32 states the definition of stableford play.
Basically its the same as strokes except for everything it lists.
32-2 lists what you can be DQ'd for in S'ford and the rule your friend broke isnt one of them, ergo he shouldnt have been DQ'd, just 2 shot penalty.

Sorry I had written something else in my last post and then deleted it but left the reference in!

Arsenium

GreeBo wrote: »

Rule 32 states the definition of stableford play.
Basically its the same as strokes except for everything it lists.
32-2 lists what you can be DQ'd for in S'ford and the rule your friend broke isnt one of them, ergo he shouldnt have been DQ'd, just 2 shot penalty.

Sorry I had written something else in my last post and then deleted it but left the reference in!

Thanks Greebo. That was what I thought. He's gonna love this........... :-)