Science Advice

buzzb123

Hi all.

Trying to get some advice. I've read that there will be a significant demand for science and Maths teachers in the future. So I thought I'd post here to get insight to people in the industry.

How true is this or am I delusional in thinking I would easily secure a job in science education? I have been led to believe there is a shortage of maths teachers. Again is this true??

Also, how difficult are teachers finding it to gain employment with accounting/ business subjects?

Which subjects do I stand a chance of securing employment

Cheers

solerina

From what I can see the only teachers that seem to find jobs somewhat easily are those with Home Ec or Irish...all others seem to be very over supplied, including science and business

Chris68

I have recognition to teach maths, applied maths, ICT, business studies and accounting. I have 12 years experience. I don't have a job. I'm leaving teaching to get a job in IT industry. Good luck.

rainbowtrout

buzzb123 wrote: »

Hi all.

Trying to get some advice. I've read that there will be a significant demand for science and Maths teachers in the future. So I thought I'd post here to get insight to people in the industry.

How true is this or am I delusional in thinking I would easily secure a job in science education? I have been led to believe there is a shortage of maths teachers. Again is this true??

Also, how difficult are teachers finding it to gain employment with accounting/ business subjects?

Which subjects do I stand a chance of securing employment

Cheers

Teaching jobs are scarce. There is no easily secured job in teaching no matter what the subject.

dart1980

Where did you read this??

buzzb123

rainbowtrout wrote: »

Teaching jobs are scarce. There is no easily secured job in teaching no matter what the subject.

Hi rainbowtrout thanks for getting back to me.

I understand that teaching jobs are scarce however I'm trying to find out is there any subjects that would increase my chances of getting full time work.

Id imagine that a science and maths teacher may secure more hours as they can teach 2 subjects to LC and science to JC......?

Is this generally the way hours are distributed or are the schools taking on numerous part time teachers as opposed to one teacher to cover all to keep costs down and avoid long term contracts.

Any further opinion and info would be greatly appreciated :-)

Thanks again for getting back to me.

teacherhead

How handy are you at home economics?

Doesn't seem to be any around.

rainbowtrout

buzzb123 wrote: »

Hi rainbowtrout thanks for getting back to me.

I understand that teaching jobs are scarce however I'm trying to find out is there any subjects that would increase my chances of getting full time work.

Id imagine that a science and maths teacher may secure more hours as they can teach 2 subjects to LC and science to JC......?

Is this generally the way hours are distributed or are the schools taking on numerous part time teachers as opposed to one teacher to cover all to keep costs down and avoid long term contracts.

Any further opinion and info would be greatly appreciated :-)

Thanks again for getting back to me.

It's swings and roundabouts with science. You won't find any degree that qualifies you in maths and two leaving cert science subjects. You can get two sciences or one science and maths. UL degree is exception I think, where you are qualified to teach biology, ag science and chemistry or physics.

Not every school offers all the sciences.

Some schools will offer full hours, some numerous part time contracts.

It can be hard to get a qualified physics/ hons maths teacher but on the other hand the number of schools offering physics has fallen. On the other hand ag science has boomed in schools in the last 5 years. It's surpassed physics in terms of numbers sitting it for leaving cert.

happywithlife

Guys as a home ec teacher this is the 3rd or 4th time I've seen mention that there's jobs in home ec - boll**%#
There's SUBBING jobs in home ec due to the high % of female teachers but it's wrong to say there's jobs per say in the area :-(
Sorry just annoys me no end when I see that :-)

teacherhead

happywithlife wrote: »

Guys as a home ec teacher this is the 3rd or 4th time I've seen mention that there's jobs in home ec - boll**%#
There's SUBBING jobs in home ec due to the high % of female teachers but it's wrong to say there's jobs per say in the area :-(
Sorry just annoys me no end when I see that :-)

Sorry I didn't say there were loads of jobs, I just said there were no teachers.

I know a school close to mine that advertised 22hours mat leave for this year and got zero applications.

happywithlife

teacherhead wrote: »

Sorry I didn't say there were loads of jobs, I just said there were no teachers.

I know a school close to mine that advertised 22hours mat leave for this year and got zero applications.

Wasn't attacking you personally just getting frustrated at the repeated references to jobs in home ec - has happened in other threads too.
Just wanted to point out that whilst mat leave positions etc are out there there is very little 'real jobs' -ESP with sustainable hours as home ec is an optional subject that has seen a serious drop in uptake in recent years; esp at senior cycle. Mat leaves are all well and good but one cannot build a career on covering mat leaves forever.

Anyhow back to the op -
As pointed out quite often on this forum, if teaching is for you, chances are you'll go ahead with it regardless of anything anybody else says. Just be aware there are very little jobs in any subject areas at the moment. Have you got a natural ability /flare for maths? No point in doing it cos it seems like 'an easy subject to get jobs in'. Business and accounting are optional subjects and again, open to cutbacks if the ptr increases. Have a look at educationposts.ie to get an idea of the jobs market. Pay attention to the types of contracts being offered, the hours on offer and the location - can you afford to rent somewhere if the job has limited hours etc.
Also if you're only considering it now, be aware that the pdge is changing to a 2year course. Look at the teaching council website to see if you'd have enough credits to register with them.
As I said if teaching is for you you'll go ahead with it regardless of anything else and you are doing the right thing by researching job options prior to under taking any pdge etc.
best of luck with it all.