sky/saorview reception multiroom

agentsmith

hi guys, looking for some help with improving current tv setup. Attached are some screen shots and rough schematic of current setup and distribution in house. As can see comments I have poor or no saorview channels on some rooms/TVs and would like to be able to receive sky channels and saorview/freeview on various TVs if possible. As can see current setup is UHF/VHF aerial in attic (as prefer not to install externally if possible).


so questions i have include:

Do I need VHF aerial anymore?

Do I need diplexer – if no longer need VHF aerial - can I remove and connect direct from UHF aerial in attic to aerial in on sky box?

Would an external digidome aerial be better for reception and signal improvement? or current setup sufficient -just positioning improvements?

Do I need upgrade my sky dish (to MK4?)and LNB eg Octo LNB.

Does the combo receiver need a dedicated coax cable to it from the sky dish (with say octo LNB)?

How can I improve sky signal on other TVs? Considering upgrading standard coax cables to shielded cables to reduce interference issues, also, using a proception 8 way (future proof connectivity options) booster amp with digital bypass for sky eye in attic with 5db gain? - once install power supply in attic!

Can sky channels be received in rm 4 with sky eye and triax receiver?

How can I improve and receive saorview (UK+Ireland) and freesat channels on other TVs?

regards,

agentsmith

I should note that I currently point UHF/VHF aerials to the Kippure mast as approx 35kms away and believe optimal mast to location in kildare

Jpmarn

To answer your questions the VHF aerial is no longer needed for tv reception. It might still be useful for fm radio although a more dedicated aerial can be got for fm radio. The diplexor can be taken out and fed directly to your sky box.

Jpmarn

About your reception things should be fine unless your picture or sound is breaking up both from satellite and terrestrial sources. You only need an octo lnb if you plan to have satellite receivers in every room or have 2 or more Sky + boxes. I see in your pics you have a third cable coming out of your dish. Is that going to your Triax combo box?

Peter Rhea

agentsmith wrote: »

Can sky channels be received in rm 4 with sky eye and triax receiver?

You need to loop the aerial feed to the tv's aerial input: Sky is tuned in on the tv's analogue tuner.

How can I improve and receive saorview (UK+Ireland) and freesat channels on other TVs?

Freeview is the UK terrestrial service: you won't get it where you are, so forget about it. First move I would make towards improving the Saorview signal would be to put the UHF aerial outside.

As for satellite signals: each satellite tuner will need its own feed from the dish.

agentsmith

Jpmarn wrote: »

About your reception things should be fine unless your picture or sound is breaking up both from satellite and terrestrial sources. You only need an octo lnb if you plan to have satellite receivers in every room or have 2 or more Sky + boxes. I see in your pics you have a third cable coming out of your dish. Is that going to your Triax combo box?

The black cable is redundant and not connected to anything. I think this was the original sky box feed before went to sky+.

The white cable shown going into wall with the twin cable form dish is the cable from the diplexor

agentsmith

Peter Rhea wrote: »

You need to loop the aerial feed to the tv's aerial input: Sky is tuned in on the tv's analogue tuner.



Freeview is the UK terrestrial service: you won't get it where you are, so forget about it. First move I would make towards improving the Saorview signal would be to put the UHF aerial outside.

As for satellite signals: each satellite tuner will need its own feed from the dish.

By aerial I take it you mean UHF - the triad is currently connected from aerials via telexes amp as per schematic. This gives me soar view but no BBC, C4 etc

Can you elaborate on how i can get sky on this rm 4 tv via tuner and current connection setup (aerial in feed from attic to triax then hdmi to tv.

Thanks

Peter Rhea

You need to connect the Triax box 'RF OUT' to the tv's RF/aerial in.

A combi receiver is a bit pointless without a satellite feed. Your dish already has a quad lnb, with only 2 connections in use for Sky +. Jpmarn has already pointed out the mystery 3rd cable.

agentsmith

Cheers Peter.

Just so clear the UHF feed goes to aerial in/rf in on triax. The rf out to the tv aerial in. The Hdmi remains connected to tv via Hdmi splitter. This will give me soarview and sky on tv. Connecting a separate feed from the sky dish to the lnb in connection will provide the free to air channels. So will then have Irish dtt channels, uk fta channels and sky (via sky eye). Is this correct?

agentsmith

For rm 1with smart tv the signal info states signal quality 48, bit error level 0 -what does this mean exactly? Any relevance to why the ATV sky channel reception is poor on this tv? Is this more down to cable/connector interference etc as usual power points and cables near bye.

To get sat fta channels along with soarview on this tv I would need feed separate line from dish to lnb in on tv or might the inbuilt tv tuner pick these up if reception improved from UHF aerial? Currently using air instead of cable or satelite for auto tuning on the tv selection .

Peter Rhea

agentsmith wrote: »

Just so clear the UHF feed goes to aerial in/rf in on triax. The rf out to the tv aerial in. The Hdmi remains connected to tv via Hdmi splitter. This will give me soarview and sky on tv. Connecting a separate feed from the sky dish to the lnb in connection will provide the free to air channels. So will then have Irish dtt channels, uk fta channels and sky (via sky eye). Is this correct?

That is correct.

agentsmith wrote: »

For rm 1with smart tv the signal info states signal quality 48, bit error level 0 -what does this mean exactly? Any relevance to why the ATV sky channel reception is poor on this tv?

Maybe there's a particularly long cable run to this tv? Poor quality cable? Dodgy connectors or wallplates?

agentsmith wrote: »

To get sat fta channels along with soarview on this tv I would need feed separate line from dish to lnb in on tv or might the inbuilt tv tuner pick these up if reception improved from UHF aerial? Currently using air instead of cable or satelite for auto tuning on the tv selection .

You need a feed from the dish if you want satellite channels.

Peter Rhea

Another thing I meant to mention: there seems to be a coil of cable beneath what I presume is the diplexer & also the centre cable looks kinked.

Cable length should be kept to the minimum, with a little bit of extra 'contingency' length & needless to say, kinks & other damage should be avoided.

agentsmith

Great thanks.

Length is about similar as rm 4. Hopefully shielded cables will make a difference.

Will double check diplexor cable as cant say noted obvious kink. Will remove now anyway following earlier comments and connect uhf direct back to sky box aerial in so will remove the excess cable.

Is the current UHF aerial adequate? Any views on the digidome aerial?

Thanks for feedback

The Cush

agentsmith wrote: »

Is the current UHF aerial adequate? Any views on the digidome aerial?

The UHF aerial will be fine but as Peter says mount it outside pointing to Kippure to get max signal and away from potential interference in the attic. No point spending up to €50 to replace it with the DigiDome aerial.