Commerce in UCD or NUIG

Garda97

Which degree is better? And is Galway or dublin better

Kiltennel

Define better? In what you'll learn both are equally good. In terms of Irish recruitment neither will give you a major benefit over the other for the most part. Internationally? UCD by a mile. Many of the major Investment Banks, Management Consulting, and Law firms recruit from UCD which don't down in NUIG. Many foreign firms only recruit from UCD and Trinity, a few stretch to Queens, UCC and DCU, very few stretch as far as UCG.

If you can get the points for Commerce in UCD I'd recommend UCD over NUIG to offer greater career prospects. If you are certain you want to stay in Ireland after graduation then it's no big deal, the Big 4 accountancy firms, Big 6 law firms and the various major technology Fortune 500 companies all actively recruit from both UCD and NUIG.

I don't mean to be condescending but you were recently asking about the sociology and a career in the Gardí. Now you're asking about Commerce and I'm guessing by the 97 you're only 16. Take it easy and enjoy your time in school, it's good to develop an idea of what you want to do but you have 2 (I'm guessing) more years of school ahead of you. You have plenty of time to find out more and change your mind in that time. Go to the university open days, find out whether you like the college or not and work out some idea of 3-4 different careers you'd want to do after college. Then it's best to choose your degree in the second-half of 6th year when the CAO opens on a well-informed decision.

Garda97

Kiltennel wrote: »

Define better? In what you'll learn both are equally good. In terms of Irish recruitment neither will give you a major benefit over the other for the most part. Internationally? UCD by a mile. Many of the major Investment Banks, Management Consulting, and Law firms recruit from UCD which don't down in NUIG. Many foreign firms only recruit from UCD and Trinity, a few stretch to Queens, UCC and DCU, very few stretch as far as UCG.

If you can get the points for Commerce in UCD I'd recommend UCD over NUIG to offer greater career prospects. If you are certain you want to stay in Ireland after graduation then it's no big deal, the Big 4 accountancy firms, Big 6 law firms and the various major technology Fortune 500 companies all actively recruit from both UCD and NUIG.

I don't mean to be condescending but you were recently asking about the sociology and a career in the Gardí. Now you're asking about Commerce and I'm guessing by the 97 you're only 16. Take it easy and enjoy your time in school, it's good to develop an idea of what you want to do but you have 2 (I'm guessing) more years of school ahead of you. You have plenty of time to find out more and change your mind in that time. Go to the university open days, find out whether you like the college or not and work out some idea of 3-4 different careers you'd want to do after college. Then it's best to choose your degree in the second-half of 6th year when the CAO opens on a well-informed decision.

My career guidance teacher said that a degree in business would be better to do because there's more jobs in it than social science! She said if I didnt get into the guards there wasnt many things I could do with a social science degree. I know im thinking about this early but I just want to know what to do now so I now how many points I need, so it will motivate me to do well!

Kiltennel

Fairly wise advice. A sociology degree wont be hugely beneficial in getting into the Guards in comparison to other degrees but in the graduate market a Commerce degree will open up a lot more doors than Sociology will.

Cody Pomeray

This is one of the few occasions where there is no doubt but that UCD has the competititve advantage, nationally, internationally and in the eyes of employers.

Personally I think it's pretty telling that commerce, the most unimaginative, tedious discipline is UCD's diamond in its fake, beauty queen tiara. But hey.

Garda97

Kiltennel wrote: »

Fairly wise advice. A sociology degree wont be hugely beneficial in getting into the Guards in comparison to other degrees but in the graduate market a Commerce degree will open up a lot more doors than Sociology will.

Do you know if the commerce degree in DCU is good? Or is it any better than UCD or NUIG

Kiltennel

Garda97 wrote: »

Do you know if the commerce degree in DCU is good? Or is it any better than UCD or NUIG

In Ireland there all much of a muchness. None have any major advantage over the other here in Ireland. As long as you do Commerce or Business in an Irish university, get a 2.1 and are well rounded you'll be fine. University wont make any major difference. If you're looking internationally again to highlight what I said you'll want to be in either UCD or Trinity for the greatest exposure to foreign companies.

Ireland = Largely irrelevant as long as it's a university business / commerce degree
Abroad = UCD or Trinity for maximum exposure.

hfallada

OP the business school is incredible in UCD. Plus there is the better social life since its Dublin. Plus some people think NUIG is a joke of a university. That is more about partying than a quality education

Have you considered BESS in TCD? You can do sociology and business if you want to do social science and also a have a decent business degree.

Cody Pomeray

Cody Pomeray wrote: »

This is one of the few occasions where there is no doubt but that UCD has the competititve advantage, nationally, internationally and in the eyes of employers.

Personally I think it's pretty telling that commerce, the most unimaginative, tedious discipline is UCD's diamond in its fake, beauty queen tiara. But hey.

I can think of more tedious disciplines, all a matter of opinion and interest. Its also pretty silly to draw conclusions from which faculty is most highly regarded as they are all run by different groups of people and are largely irrelevant to each other. Having a strong 'unimaginative' business school has no impact on how imaginative the School of Science is.

But hey, be more condescending..

musicfan1ie

Hey OP, it depends what you want really. I did Commerce in Nui Galway and a Masters in UCD. Both are great, the important bit is to get a quality degree - 2.1 or higher.

The Business School in UCD is fantastic in Blackrock for postgrads, but I personally found the main campus at UCD soulless. Also, you might end up commuting a lot in Dublin, depending on where you are. But, you can walk everywhere in Galway. There's also a great social life too.

Personally, I'm glad that I chose Galway. Also, there are some slight differences in the courses. For example, Galway used to allow you to do Tax in good detail (not sure if this is still case). I enjoyed this, so that's what I focused my career on. Whereas UCD don't. For me, the topics in NUI Galway just suited me better, so I chose that.

Cody Pomeray

AdamD wrote: »

Having a strong 'unimaginative' business school has no impact on how imaginative the School of Science is.

I didn't accuse the schools of science of being unimaginative.

I accused commerce of being an unimaginative discipline, and of being our most renowned discipline at the same time.

The Smurfit school, for example, is among the most respected of its kind across Europe. There is no doubt but that what I consider (others disagree) is UCD's most humdrum discipline is also its most internationally respected.

Most of our faculties are mediocre/ passable. The only one that excels is business/ commerce, which I think says something interesting about the University.

Pawblo Pugcasso

OP I don't know much about Galway but the facilities in the Quinn school of business in UCD are excellent...Bloomberg terminals, presentation rooms, collaborative study areas, network ports under every desk etc etc. It really is a class place to study.

Commerce in UCD has the international exposure and the reputation too

Garda97

hfallada wrote: »

OP the business school is incredible in UCD. Plus there is the better social life since its Dublin. Plus some people think NUIG is a joke of a university. That is more about partying than a quality education

Have you considered BESS in TCD? You can do sociology and business if you want to do social science and also a have a decent business degree.

I'd much rather go to UCD than trinity dont know why just want to! I just don't know what to do commerce or social science

Garda97

musicfan1ie wrote: »

Hey OP, it depends what you want really. I did Commerce in Nui Galway and a Masters in UCD. Both are great, the important bit is to get a quality degree - 2.1 or higher.

The Business School in UCD is fantastic in Blackrock for postgrads, but I personally found the main campus at UCD soulless. Also, you might end up commuting a lot in Dublin, depending on where you are. But, you can walk everywhere in Galway. There's also a great social life too.

Personally, I'm glad that I chose Galway. Also, there are some slight differences in the courses. For example, Galway used to allow you to do Tax in good detail (not sure if this is still case). I enjoyed this, so that's what I focused my career on. Whereas UCD don't. For me, the topics in NUI Galway just suited me better, so I chose that.

How many points was it for Galway?

musicfan1ie

Garda97 wrote: »

How many points was it for Galway?

When I did it, it was around 435 points

Solomon Pleasant

hey guys any idea how much the erasmus year costs roughly? Really interested in studying commerce or business with german, thanks:)

haro124

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

hey guys any idea how much the erasmus year costs roughly? Really interested in studying commerce or business with german, thanks:)

UCD say between 8 and 12 thousand for the whole year. Really depends on how extravagantly you live

Solomon Pleasant

haro124 wrote: »

UCD say between 8 and 12 thousand for the whole year. Really depends on how extravagantly you live

Do you know anyone doing commerce or business with german? Is it difficult?Cheers for the reply

ironclaw

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

Do you know anyone doing commerce or business with german? Is it difficult?Cheers for the reply

I'd consider Chinese or Spanish personally. The BRIC countries will be exploding in the next 10 to 20 years. German is spoken in one country whilst all emerging markets are speaking (Or have strong connections with) Spanish or Chinese.

haro124

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

Do you know anyone doing commerce or business with german? Is it difficult?Cheers for the reply

Well I do Commerce international with Chinese so its part of the same course.
I like the business modules and you do a good variety in first and second year : accounting, economics, management, HR etc. I don't know a huge amount about the German part tbh

Solomon Pleasant

haro124 wrote: »

Well I do Commerce international with Chinese so its part of the same course.
I like the business modules and you do a good variety in first and second year : accounting, economics, management, HR etc. I don't know a huge amount about the German part tbh

is there a strong mathematical element?Is the accounting aspect difficult? thanks:)

Solomon Pleasant

ironclaw wrote: »

I'd consider Chinese or Spanish personally. The BRIC countries will be exploding in the next 10 to 20 years. German is spoken in one country whilst all emerging markets are speaking (Or have strong connections with) Spanish or Chinese.

Is the course difficult,enjoyable etc? Do you do the course or a similar course, or know much about the course? thanks:)

ironclaw

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

Is the course difficult,enjoyable etc? Do you do the course or a similar course, or know much about the course? thanks:)

No, I didn't study Business (Engineering actually) but my current job has me travelling and working extensively in those countries. And they are booming. So having either fluent Spanish or especially Chinese (If you wish to travel that is) would be a massive bonus (As opposed to German) Retrospectively, I wish I had studied either.

blackdog2

Just a note, you won't come out of the Commerce with Chinese course with fluent Chinese, usually its intermediate-level