Done for speeding...

TheFarrier

I was pulled over and done for speeding by a traffic corps squad car almost a month ago, told I'd receive a fixed penalty notice in the post and I'd have to pay it within so many days or it would go up. No problem there, not like its the first or last time that's gonna happen to me.

But the fine never came in the post. I was told I'd get one and i recognised the cop that came to my window, she's a <snip>, so I highly doubt she let me off afterwards, especially as I was almost 30k over the limit.

My question is, will I have to pay the increased fine if I haven't recieved it before the deadline, or what? Will I have any comeback if this is the case??

Thanks for reading.

Jesus.

You shouldn't have been speeding. The rules of the road are infallible and you should have been arrested and locked up for at least 20 years. You'll also burn in hell for all eternity.

Now leave this Site and never return you monster

granturismo

TheFarrier wrote: »

... No problem there, not like its the first or last time that's gonna happen to me.
... the cop that came to my window, she's a notorious cnut, so I highly doubt she let me off afterwards, especially as I was almost 30k over the limit.

My question is, will I have to pay the increased fine .

I hope so.

Supergurrier

Does anyone who breaks the speed limit actually admit they deserve the points and fine ?

Like cmon

Chris_Heilong

I will just leave this old bit of news here as I think it is still relevent today
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-407521/Only-20-road-accidents-caused-breaking-speed-limit.html

Jesus.

granturismo wrote: »

I hope so.

See what I mean Farrier? :rolleyes:

kona

hope ya got off !

Patrickheg

Supergurrier wrote: »

Does anyone who breaks the speed limit actually admit they deserve the points and fine ?

Like cmon

Sounds like OP is not objecting to the standard 2 points. Question seems to be that they have not received any notification and are worried that they will be hauled before the courts and given 4 points.

CiniO

granturismo wrote: »

I hope so.

Why?

vibe666

No true boardsie would ever speed.

I think it may be that those high horses are notoriously slow.

Hope ya get away with it OP.

thecomedian

You might as well chance it. If you do have a problem later just say you had no problem with the fine but you were waiting for it in the post and it never arrived.

Days 298

Bit of luck and she forgot . Drive carefully.... crouching guards everywhere! Watch out for mondeos in your rear mirror.

2 weeks ago I was just over the 100km/h limit by not much and noticed the typical blue mondeo behind me so me being paranoid pulled in to the left and slowed down. Feckers put on there blues and twos to get through the red lights at the end of the dual carriageway 2 minutes later .

TheFarrier

@ supergurrier

Where in my post did I say I felt I was being wronged by the cop ?? I know I was being illegal and all that, I just want to know if I'm going to have to pay the higher fine because the cop forgot to put my heinous crime through the system, or the postal crowd made a paper plane out of my fine letter.



Would it make any sense to drop into the copshop to see what the story is??

I want to chance it like some of you said, because I'm flat broke at the minute and could do without an eighty quid fine, but there's a niggling voice in my head saying sort it out, cause I'm flat broke and could do without a hundred and twenty quid fine!!!!!

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Shane Fitz

TheFarrier wrote: »

@ supergurrier

Where in my post did I say I felt I was being wronged by the cop ?? I know I was being illegal and all that, I just want to know if I'm going to have to pay the higher fine because the cop forgot to put my heinous crime through the system, or the postal crowd made a paper plane out of my fine letter.



Would it make any sense to drop into the copshop to see what the story is??

I want to chance it like some of you said, because I'm flat broke at the minute and could do without an eighty quid fine, but there's a niggling voice in my head saying sort it out, cause I'm flat broke and could do without a hundred and twenty quid fine!!!!!

Thanks everyone for your replies.

The clock for the 28 days and 56 days to pay starts from the date the fixed notice is ISSUED, not the date of the offence. Which, with shifts, work load and leave etc might not have been put on system for weeks after you were actually stopped.

TheFarrier

Shane Fitz wrote: »

The clock for the 28 days and 56 days to pay starts from the date the fixed notice is ISSUED, not the date of the offence. Which, with shifts, work load and leave etc might not have been put on system for weeks after you were actually stopped.

Thank you

visual

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

I will just leave this old bit of news here as I think it is still relevent today
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-407521/Only-20-road-accidents-caused-breaking-speed-limit.html

Very interesting article. Ive seen similar articles and figures else where that suggested speed alone makes up a very small percentage in accidents along with defective vehicles apparently. The biggest single cause is human error. I beleive this is backed up by RSA own statistics.

It makes it very strange that the RSA has focused on the smallest percentage groups and brain washed all the sheep into believing this.

Days 298

visual wrote: »

Very interesting article. Ive seen similar articles and figures else where that suggested speed alone makes up a very small percentage in accidents along with defective vehicles apparently. The biggest single cause is human error. I beleive this is backed up by RSA own statistics.

It makes it very strange that the RSA has focused on the smallest percentage groups and brain washed all the sheep into believing this.

Probably because it's the easiest thing to measure and the cheapest way to say "look we are doing something".

yop

Supergurrier wrote: »

Does anyone who breaks the speed limit actually admit they deserve the points and fine ?

Like cmon

I saw a Focus pulled in in Clonboo on Monday morn, if I was in it I wouldn't be admitting to speeding

bold boy OP

Zubeneschamali

TheFarrier wrote: »

notorious cnut

The rapper? Cool!

Zubeneschamali

Supergurrier wrote: »

Does anyone who breaks the speed limit actually admit they deserve the points and fine ?

I only ever got one fine, 2 points in [ahem] years of driving.

But the youngfella showed me the gun with 172 km/hr on it, and I said "It's a fair cop, guv, you got me".

Supergurrier

yop wrote: »

I saw a Focus pulled in in Clonboo on Monday morn, if I was in it I wouldn't be admitting to speeding

bold boy OP

Emersion left on dog ate the cat that ate my homework etc etc

(shuffles away whistling)

blindside88

Ive been caught a couple of times, the first time it took over 2 months to receive the notice, the days I had to pay the fine were from the date the notice was sent, not the date I was caught

visual

Days 298 wrote: »

Probably because it's the easiest thing to measure and the cheapest way to say "look we are doing something".

It makes the argument very strong that speed traps are revenue biased rather than safety.

What is very worrying is the volume of cameras on major roads most of these are ANPR along with induction loops in roads. That represent a significant financial investment. I anticipate these will be put to work as average speed cameras and if linked to tax and nct data bases could be issuing fines by post in the near future.

Zubeneschamali

visual wrote: »

It makes the argument very strong that speed traps are revenue biased rather than safety.

No, to show it was revenue based, you'd have to show that they make a profit.

I'm sure they make a loss.

It's PR, not profit, they do it to show that they're doing it so they can boast about doing it, it's costing all of the non-speeders money.

Days 298

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I only ever got one fine, 2 points in [ahem] years of driving.

But the youngfella showed me the gun with 172 km/hr on it, and I said "It's a fair cop, guv, you got me".

Speeding is speeding. If you get caught you may as well get value for it :pac:

djimi

Say nothing to the Gardai. Its not unheard of for these situations to result in no fine. If you are going to be fined then it will arrive sometime in the next six months; if it doesnt arrive then count yourself lucky! If you are worried about the money then put the cash aside and in six months time use it for a night out!

corktina

visual wrote: »

Very interesting article. Ive seen similar articles and figures else where that suggested speed alone makes up a very small percentage in accidents along with defective vehicles apparently. The biggest single cause is human error. I beleive this is backed up by RSA own statistics.

It makes it very strange that the RSA has focused on the smallest percentage groups and brain washed all the sheep into believing this.

all accidents are caused by human error more or less. The point being that if speed wasn't limited, the result of those accidents would be more serious. I would have thought that obvious.

Ashbx

Why not get in contact with the guards and tell them that you havent received it yet and that you are worried that the fine/points are increased. In fact, I would go into the Garda station and get them to sign something to say you havent received it but was enquiring about it so IF it does happen to go to court, you will have that with you!

vibe666

it's not speed that's dangerous, it's the rapid deceleration caused by stationary objects that's the real killer! :pac:

aisr1ofk43dpy5

vibe666 wrote: »

it's not speed that's dangerous, it's the rapid deceleration caused by stationary objects that's the real killer! :pac:

Similar to 'its not the fall that kills its the sudden stop at the end' :-)

visual

corktina wrote: »

all accidents are caused by human error more or less. The point being that if speed wasn't limited, the result of those accidents would be more serious. I would have thought that obvious.

would have thought so but the statics don't back that up the presumption

Guy:Incognito

visual wrote: »

would have thought so but the statics don't back that up the presumption

If only 20 % of people are speeding then thats less people to have crashes while speeding. So the percentage of the 80% that do crash will be crashing at a slower speed (one thats below thee speed limit. If the limits werent there and the same amount were still crashing theres a good chance theyd be crashing at a higher speed. theres no way to provide stats for it because not everyone speeds but its fairly obvious that if they were crashing faster more damage would be done.

mgbgt1978

Ashbx wrote: »

Why not get in contact with the guards and tell them that you havent received it yet and that you are worried that the fine/points are increased. In fact, I would go into the Garda station and get them to sign something to say you havent received it but was enquiring about it so IF it does happen to go to court, you will have that with you!

If you can seriously get a Guard to sign something like that, then you are either another Guard, or the local Sean Quinn, J P Mcmanus, etc......

ironclaw

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If only 20 % of people are speeding then thats less people to have crashes while speeding. So the percentage of the 80% that do crash will be crashing at a slower speed (one thats below thee speed limit. If the limits werent there and the same amount were still crashing theres a good chance theyd be crashing at a higher speed. theres no way to provide stats for it because not everyone speeds but its fairly obvious that if they were crashing faster more damage would be done.

Doesn't really make a blind bit of difference. People have walked away from 140km/h crashes on Autobahns and people have been killed in 60km/h crashes here. There's way more than just 'speed' to take into consideration. Every accident is down to at least one driver's error be that lack of concentration, lapse of judgement or in most cases I believe, a complete overestimation of ones abilities.

Speed does not increase your likelihood of crashing and its not the number one cause of crashes in Ireland. Even the RSA own data says so:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=84882279&postcount=32

visual

excessive speed includes driving below the speed limit but considered too fast for the circumstances.

yop

Supergurrier wrote: »

Emersion left on dog ate the cat that ate my homework etc etc

(shuffles away whistling)

Flashed to let you out this morning but 2 cars coming the other way too quick. Dirty line of traffic all the way from Headford

dodzy

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I only ever got one fine, 2 points in [ahem] years of driving.

But the youngfella showed me the gun with 172 km/hr on it, and I said "It's a fair cop, guv, you got me".

I'd have done you too....for slow progress thru' traffic. Bleedin Sunday drivers, really get on my t1ts. You deserve it.

Supergurrier

yop wrote: »

Flashed to let you out this morning but 2 cars coming the other way too quick. Dirty line of traffic all the way from Headford

Autopilot mode at that time much prefer half nine start.

Was a small tip outside same shop yesterday evening and it was 50kmph all the way from town.

What ya driving these days yop ?

Anan1

ironclaw wrote: »

Doesn't really make a blind bit of difference. People have walked away from 140km/h crashes on Autobahns and people have been killed in 60km/h crashes here. There's way more than just 'speed' to take into consideration. Every accident is down to at least one driver's error be that lack of concentration, lapse of judgement or in most cases I believe, a complete overestimation of ones abilities.

Speed does not increase your likelihood of crashing and its not the number one cause of crashes in Ireland. Even the RSA own data says so:

Surely you can see that speed does increase the likelihood of people getting hurt when you do crash?

dodzy

ironclaw wrote: »

Speed does not increase your likelihood of crashing and its not the number one cause of crashes in Ireland. Even the RSA own data says so:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=84882279&postcount=32

I wouldn't care who said it. There is most definitely a link between speed and accidents. Surely nobody could disagree with that ? And those Autobahn comparisons are a non runner IMO.

corktina

It's totally obvious that the faster you drive the more likely it is you will lose control or not be able to stop in an emergency and it's also obvious that the faster you drive, the worse the consequences will be in an accident.

I really can't see how someone can claim it doesn't make a blind bit of difference!

Chris_Heilong

its the line that driving fast is the number one cause of most accidents, which when view the stats is simply not true but it is the excuse used when setting up cameras, I say get the points but not the fine if it is really the governments concern that citizens are safe, a monetary incentive is immoral and can lead to corrupting the original goals of an operation, as I feel has happened when garda park in areas where no fatal accidents have happened and set up speed traps at the foot of hills and such.

yop

Supergurrier wrote: »

Autopilot mode at that time much prefer half nine start.

Was a small tip outside same shop yesterday evening and it was 50kmph all the way from town.

What ya driving these days yop ?

Ah your grand. Am in the 131 D VRS

dodzy

yop wrote: »

Am in the 131 D VRS

^^ Envy:mad:

Pic please?

Jesus.

corktina wrote: »

It's totally obvious that the faster you drive the more likely it is you will lose control or not be able to stop in an emergency and it's also obvious that the faster you drive, the worse the consequences will be in an accident.I really can't see how someone can claim it doesn't make a blind bit of difference!

That's true. But its also totally obvious that driving too slow in many circumstances can equally cause accidents even if the "slow" driver himself is unharmed.

Anan1

Jesus. wrote: »

That's true. But its also totally obvious that driving too slow in many circumstances can equally cause accidents even if the "slow" driver himself is unharmed.

All due respect, that's a complete red herring.

Ashbx

dodzy wrote: »

^^ Envy:mad:

Pic please?

Surely this could be done in private mail, and not on the thread!