Angus Cattle prices

TUBBY

Hello all

Does anyone else think that people are gone mad with prices being paid for very ordinary angus stores.

Was in few marts lately and the angus cattle are nearly doing as well as a nice continental.

i know there is a bit of a premium but it is more than paid for when buying.

REBEL COUNTY1

Your not at the same mart im in at the moment so. €1.60 kg average being paid for aa around the 400kg weight and they dont have much hol influence, square enuf bullocks.

Sam Kade

REBEL COUNTY1 wrote: »

Your not at the same mart im in at the moment so. €1.60 kg average being paid for aa around the 400kg weight and they dont have much hol influence, square enuf bullocks.

What mart would that be?

REBEL COUNTY1

Fermoy, cork. Good Suckler 500kg angus going 1.90kg av

Sam Kade

REBEL COUNTY1 wrote: »

Fermoy, cork. Good Suckler 500kg angus going 1.90kg av

You'd expect that for good friesians. They have some fancy prices on their c103 mart reports :mad:

REBEL COUNTY1

Can see money in it even in the suckler types, see more in the dairy type thou! Even the sucklers - 500kg bullocks being bought now for even €1000, factory 70days later to get qa and aa payments (1kg a day weight gain) at 570kg (52% ko) is 296 cw. Prices back at 4.30kg base for xmas market (plus 40c aa payment and 12 c qa payment) lets say 4.80kg cw ur bullock come into €1420 for feeding animal silage and 3kg concentrates for 70days i can see value if uve room in a shed! Think these are conservative figures! Open to correction

lakill Farm

i has in the mart Friday night (Delvin) and lad i know sold 5 AA Bulls at average of 465kg and avg of €975. They are Feb 2012 calves out of BR/Fr cows

moy83

REBEL COUNTY1 wrote: »

Can see money in it even in the suckler types, see more in the dairy type thou! Even the sucklers - 500kg bullocks being bought now for even €1000, factory 70days later to get qa and aa payments (1kg a day weight gain) at 570kg (52% ko) is 296 cw. Prices back at 4.30kg base for xmas market (plus 40c aa payment and 12 c qa payment) lets say 4.80kg cw ur bullock come into €1420 for feeding animal silage and 3kg concentrates for 70days i can see value if uve room in a shed! Think these are conservative figures! Open to correction

Will you get the aa bonus on all the ones out of fr though ? Its a nice bit to have factored into your price if they dont pay it

jersey101

I have two aa heifers born in march thus year. Dont know whether to put them in calve and sell them with calves afoot or sell as stores this time next year

REBEL COUNTY1

moy83 wrote: »

Will you get the aa bonus on all the ones out of fr though ? Its a nice bit to have factored into your price if they dont pay it

Dont know re dairy, im going on what i was told in aa producers stand at ploughing..in that yes the dairy shud! But what they say and what they do probably two different things! Anyone in the scheme who could elaborate?

epfff

REBEL COUNTY1 wrote: »

Dont know re dairy, im going on what i was told in aa producers stand at ploughing..in that yes the dairy shud! But what they say and what they do probably two different things! Anyone in the scheme who could elaborate?

yep
aa or aax pays out as long as quality assured
But remember aa don't carry weight like a continental

mf240

epfff wrote: »

yep
aa or aax pays out as long as quality assured
But remember aa don't carry weight like a continental

Do they have to grade or are you paid for o,s? Thanks.

moy83

REBEL COUNTY1 wrote: »

Dont know re dairy, im going on what i was told in aa producers stand at ploughing..in that yes the dairy shud! But what they say and what they do probably two different things! Anyone in the scheme who could elaborate?

I think bob charles said that they can be fussy enough if there is a bit of white or butts of horns to be found . Im sure the factory will use this to get around paying a bonus

bob charles

moy83 wrote: »

I think bob charles said that they can be fussy enough if there is a bit of white or butts of horns to be found . Im sure the factory will use this to get around paying a bonus

they are fussy around here anyway. A horn or butt isnt a polly, I had a few today with a small patch of white but pollies and they were okay. The extra price is only balancing up the poor thrive and conformation of some of the pollies. Angus standard of animal has really dropped off around here over the last 10yrs and most only grading O's. Maybe of grass they arent too bad, but if feeding concentrates I would wonder

ace86

Can fellows tell me what lim x freisan 2yr old bulocks are making average weight 450kgs at the marts if there is any there???

blue5000

Heard that a lad in Louth with (lorry) loads of new slats is buying lightish angus and hereford heifers. Methinks he is trying to keep a lid on factory prices next May early June.;)

jdmurf

REBEL COUNTY1 wrote: »

Your not at the same mart im in at the moment so. €1.60 kg average being paid for aa around the 400kg weight and they dont have much hol influence, square enuf bullocks.

Hardly 1.60 av for 400kg for square blks....... That was one lot with mixed breed and 4 movements on the board..... Not exactly a fair reflection of the aa trade..... Bottom price of 320 over up to 530 over....

mauser77

Have a lock of black heifers round the 400kg mark just wondering what wud be the ideal weight to kill them at don't really no what to do.sell them now or hold for winter then they will Hav to be gone cos won't Hav grass for them in spring

REBEL COUNTY1

jdmurf wrote: »

Hardly 1.60 av for 400kg for square blks....... That was one lot with mixed breed and 4 movements on the board..... Not exactly a fair reflection of the aa trade..... Bottom price of 320 over up to 530 over....

Perhaps not fair to say average alright but thats the figure i took from the lighter aa dairy stock, noted one or two batches, dont have them written down but didnt think there far off and only took note because of what i was told about this producers group. Lowest of 320 over isnt accurate either id be sure! Prices for heavier aa seemed to go up as morning went on but didnt hang around.

These werent solid bullocks but not exactly your pure holstein scrawny yoke. Even if there €1.70 -€1.80 i would have thought wud have graded into o= definitely and possibly o+ which is the required min grade for this scheme allegedly! Theres surely money to be made there!

That aa bull made a good jump attempt to get up to de box! How he hasnt killed anyone to date! MAD!

bob charles

blue5000 wrote: »

Heard that a lad in Louth with (lorry) loads of new slats is buying lightish angus and hereford heifers. Methinks he is trying to keep a lid on factory prices next May early June.;)

does it every year, all black and white, first of them must be due to appear in the next month or so

blue5000

bob charles wrote: »

does it every year, all black and white, first of them must be due to appear in the next month or so

Do you reckon there will be a bubble bursting so? I think SFP money next week won't stretch as far as other years.