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gcurran97

i was wondering how do u become a professional golfer , it has always been a dream of mine and i am just curious ?

PARlance

gcurran97 wrote: »

i was wondering how do u become a professional golfer , it has always been a dream of mine and i am just curious ?

Keep going as you are.
You asked "how do you mark a scorecard" 4 months ago.
You were playing off a HC of 12 two months ago.
You'll be a pro in the next year or two at that rate.

gorfield

gcurran97 wrote: »

i was wondering how do u become a professional golfer , it has always been a dream of mine and i am just curious ?

Dominate the Irish amateur scene for at least 2years, play walker cup, be capable of shooting at least -5 in every weather condition on any golf course.

Otherwise forget it.

IITYWYBMAD

gorfield wrote: »

Dominate the Irish amateur scene for at least 2years, play walker cup, be capable of shooting at least -5 in every weather condition on any golf course.

Otherwise forget it.

My club pro is good, but he never dominated the Irish amateur scene for any period, let alone 2 years, and I don't believe he ever played Walker Cup.

Seve OB

gorfield wrote: »

Dominate the Irish amateur scene for at least 2years, play walker cup, be capable of shooting at least -5 in every weather condition on any golf course.

Otherwise forget it.

no hope for you so, -3 at PGA National last week was pretty pathetic :rolleyes:

Redzah

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

My club pro is good, but he never dominated the Irish amateur scene for any period, let alone 2 years, and I don't believe he ever played Walker Cup.

I think the OP needs to distinguish which type of pro he wants to be. A tour professional or a club pro professional?

For a tour professional then I think Gorfield has got that covered with the exception of the tour school part which now appears even more competitive as it is being flooded by the top guys in the US due to a change in their system (i.e. no longer US tour school qualifying)

For a club pro, then i think its just get down to a 4 handicap (which i think is the minimum req'd) and do your playability test, exams/articiles and find a club pro to take you on as an assistant (think requirement is 2/3 years).

ImDave

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

My club pro is good, but he never dominated the Irish amateur scene for any period, let alone 2 years, and I don't believe he ever played Walker Cup.

I think the reply was taking it that the OP meant tour professional as opposed to teaching professional.

OP if you are asking about becoming a PGA Teaching Professional - You have to pass two playability tests, which you generally have to score somewhere around level to -2 for the two rounds, but this varies a lot. After that you will work as an assistant professional and study on a Foundation Degree distance learning course from the University of Birmingham.

neckedit

ImDave wrote: »

I think the reply was taking it that the OP meant tour professional as opposed to teaching professional.

OP if you are asking about becoming a PGA Teaching Professional - You have to pass two playability tests, which you generally have to score somewhere around level to -2 for the two rounds, but this varies a lot. After that you will work as an assistant professional and study on a Foundation Degree distance learning course from the University of Birmingham.

The Playing ability test was 13ss over for the 36 holes when I did it, Although quiet a while ago......have they set the bar that high recently at par to -2??

ImDave

neckedit wrote: »

The Playing ability test was 13ss over for the 36 holes when I did it, Although quiet a while ago......have they set the bar that high recently at par to -2??

So I am told from two different teaching pro friends who took the PAT about two to three years ago. One of them was level for the two rounds and didn't make it. I could have taken them up wrong to be fair but that is what I have heard.

Redzah

ImDave wrote: »

So I am told from two different teaching pro friends who took the PAT about two to three years ago. One of them was level for the two rounds and didn't make it. I could have taken them up wrong to be fair but that is what I have heard.

From what I have heard its closer to the +13 mark also, would be very surprised if its -2. I think you're exempt from the PAT if you are off scratch or below.

neckedit

Redzah wrote: »

From what I have heard its closer to the +13 mark also, would be very surprised if its -2. I think you're exempt from the PAT if you are off scratch or below.

Yeah you are exempt from it if you have a cert showing scratch or better.
+13 was tough enough to shoot when you carve a couple out of town on the first 2!!

Redzah

neckedit wrote: »

Yeah you are exempt from it if you have a cert showing scratch or better.
+13 was tough enough to shoot when you carve a couple out of town on the first 2!!

Ah sure in fairness +13 prob a fair maximum threshold, wouldn't want any old joker trying to teach you things that he can't even do himself.

Gin77

I enquired into this a while back the Keiser university I think. You could go to the US and do a diploma course in golf course management. It will cost you $7000 a semester for two semesters. I told the guy I was off 16 (lies more like 19) he said thats no problem you will have all the time and support to work on your hcp.
The problem for me is my wife and kids would starve in the mean time.

For Paws

Gin77 wrote: »

I enquired into this a while back the Keiser university I think. You could go to the US and do a diploma course in golf course management. It will cost you $7000 a semester for two semesters. I told the guy I was off 16 (lies more like 19) he said thats no problem you will have all the time and support to work on your hcp.
The problem for me is my wife and kids would starve in the mean time.

So, are you going or what ?

Benny Cake

Gin77 wrote: »

I enquired into this a while back the Keiser university I think. You could go to the US and do a diploma course in golf course management. It will cost you $7000 a semester for two semesters. I told the guy I was off 16 (lies more like 19) he said thats no problem you will have all the time and support to work on your hcp.
The problem for me is my wife and kids would starve in the mean time.

Pfffft, any aul excuse....

Gin77

Benny Cake wrote: »

Pfffft, any aul excuse....

Your right follow the dream. lol

GreeBo

Redzah wrote: »

Ah sure in fairness +13 prob a fair maximum threshold, wouldn't want any old joker trying to teach you things that he can't even do himself.

I dunno, you dont have to be able to do something to understand it and be very good at teaching it.

fullstop

ImDave wrote: »

You have to pass two playability tests, which you generally have to score somewhere around level to -2 for the two rounds.

I'm pretty sure that's not true. You have a playability test but it's nowhere near that standard afaik.

pinseeker

fullstop wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's not true. You have a playability test but it's nowhere near that standard afaik.

Its no worse than +12 for the 2 rounds afaik.

fullstop

pinseeker wrote: »

Its no worse than +12 for the 2 rounds afaik.

Yep, that's a lot closer to what I thought, which was +14. It's definitely not under par anyway.

Rikand

friend of mine did it a couple of years ago. it was +13 or +15 - an odd number anyways...

Senecio

Does anyone else think that's a bit lenient considering these guys are going to take money off people for lessons? I wouldn't be too please in finding out my teaching pro struggled to get it round in similar scores to myself.

sydneybound

The playability events are always played at Dundalk off the back sticks and you have to shoot +13 or better to be a pro. Theres about 4/5 of these events a year. Here's a leaderboard.

http://pgaireland.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/pgaireland13/event/pgaireland1334/contest/1/leaderboard.htm

I know a few pros who would play to a 5/6 handicap, to be honest a lot loose interest past their 30's which is natural enough when your doing it every day. Some club pros I've seen are shocking, without being harsh most just end up as shop boys.

Redzah

Fact of the matter is that there is a playability test there for a reason. It gives credibility to a golf pro that they were able to play to a required standard themselves, I would not appreciate some 16 handicap know it all trying to teach me as I would doubt his credibility if he cannot walk the walk himself. How can somebody know so much about the golf swing and teach others competently without being able to do it themselves? The only credible answer I can think of would be physical disability

GreeBo

Redzah wrote: »

Fact of the matter is that there is a playability test there for a reason. It gives credibility to a golf pro that they were able to play to a required standard themselves, I would not appreciate some 16 handicap know it all trying to teach me as I would doubt his credibility if he cannot walk the walk himself. How can somebody know so much about the golf swing and teach others competently without being able to do it themselves? The only credible answer I can think of would be physical disability

they would be at most a 6 (and probably a lot lower unless they are a Poulter) handicap golfer to play +13 over 36 holes off the pro tees...

ImDave

fullstop wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's not true. You have a playability test but it's nowhere near that standard afaik.

Apologies guys, must have got the wrong end of the stick or be thinking of something different!