terrier

charlie10

so my young terrier bitch got her first taste of a rat yesterday and very happy with her . she was mad as a hatter and was tearing the rat trap around the yard , now any tips or hints on where i should go with her from here she is 5 months ,id like to keep her for "bushing" if possible.any unorthodox methods can be sent by pm

snipe02

Few more rats a mink later then bring her on a dig let her watch and travel when clear then drop her at the end of a dig she should get it by then mind her after that for bushing get her out after rabbits with the springers

Cork Rebel

I'd say get her out bushing as much as possible, get her well socialised, used to other dogs/hounds and livestock and get her used to travelling in the car/van/trailer.

If you can get her hunting and using her nose you have some chance, and then hope for the best.

5 months is still young, even for rats, although you would be very happy with the way she reacted. I wouldn't be in any rush to be digging with her, but no harm in bringing her along to a few digs when she is a bit older and let her see what its all about.

What breed of terrier is she and how is she bred?

Best of luck with her, a good one is hard to come by,

charlie10

jasus dont ask me how she is bred but her father is parson,mother is patterdale/parson and a brill little bitch on rabbits and digging too.hardy little bitch. i would put up pic but i cant find usb lead ill try there some other way,she turned the cage upside down and ate the bars ,the rat bit her few times through the cage and made feck all difference to her.i have video also ill try and post shortly if allowed ha ha;)

dodderangler

Sounds like the making of a good dog Charlie.
Avoid this. http://youtu.be/JTSeVHhoGMU
Go to 0:38. Dunno who's more at fault. The dog or owner.

Eddie B

Don't introduce her to anything else till she's over 12 months old! If she gets soured she'll be good for nothing!

charlie10

dodderangler wrote: »

Sounds like the making of a good dog Charlie.
Avoid this. http://youtu.be/JTSeVHhoGMU
Go to 0:38. Dunno who's more at fault. The dog or owner.

jasus ha ha sound lads ill take my time few rats here and there and nothing else till she is able

charlie10

any good tips for her for the future on how to train her ? is giving her rats a good idea i have shot duck over her i bring her with the springer she is nuts !!

Eddie B

charlie10 wrote: »

any good tips for her for the future on how to train her ? is giving her rats a good idea i have shot duck over her i bring her with the springer she is nuts !!

Id try her on a couple a rats and mink next year and spend this year getting her used to other dogs and a little obedience training! You really need to be patient, even though she's showing good signs, she's still only a pup! By the way, gameness comes natural to terriers, no training required!

charlie10

brazzil shot teal over her and she was running around nuts looking for it,but ya ill take it easy but ill say one thing she is one deaf bitch:D

dodderangler

charlie10 wrote: »

any good tips for her for the future on how to train her ? is giving her rats a good idea i have shot duck over her i bring her with the springer she is nuts !!

Do you know any lads who do serious rat control? Like council type of control on farmyards and landfills?
Be a great place to bring her.
http://youtu.be/KriyiXxD3OI

snipe02

If you do hunt rabbits with and you plan on digging with her dont be put out if you think shes marking a fox and you dig down only to find a rabbit or more likely a narrow tunnel although I had a fell bitch that would flush pheasants and was rock steady to dig to never shot anything for her though

charlie10

dodderangler wrote: »

Do you know any lads who do serious rat control? Like council type of control on farmyards and landfills?
Be a great place to bring her.
http://youtu.be/KriyiXxD3OI

no but u have got me thinking now and i could maybe ask around or if anyone feels like inviting me i would appreciate it:o

thekevin4540

snipe02 wrote: »

If you do hunt rabbits with and you plan on digging with her dont be put out if you think shes marking a fox and you dig down only to find a rabbit or more likely a narrow tunnel although I had a fell bitch that would flush pheasants and was rock steady to dig to never shot anything for her though

i was going to say the same thing if your your going digging her i wouldent be giving her rabbits id wait a while give her a shake when the other dogs are on and give her pocket when she is ready for it

thelurcher

thekevin4540 wrote: »

i was going to say the same thing if your your going digging her i wouldent be giving her rabbits id wait a while give her a shake when the other dogs are on and give her pocket when she is ready for it

I and many of the lads I know bring on young terriers open hunting. I've yet to dig to one of my terriers on a rabbit.
I wouldn't encourage them if they're marking a rabbit burrow though obviously - but a bit of bushing isn't going to do any harm.

As for rats in a cage? It proves nothing and couldn't be further removed from what a terrier is expected to do when they begin their digging career. The anti's love to bandy around the word baiting for terrier work - which is incorrect - but letting a terrier go on a caged animal or giving one a bit of 'pocket' for that matter isn't a subject that should be discussed on an open forum.

charlie10

point taken just looking for info lad no terrier men that live around me. if the rat proved nothing well then fair enough my mistake;) any tips from yourself

thelurcher

charlie10 wrote: »

point taken just looking for info lad no terrier men that live around me. if the rat proved nothing well then fair enough my mistake;) any tips from yourself

Thing is Charlie that it's either in them or it's not - you can't make a terrier work. You can however screw things up when the time comes to enter it.
Give it plenty of time and follow Cork Rebel's advice that he gave you above.
If you're from Cork as your sig says then I guarantee there's someone into terriers not too far from you. Something like 80 packs (of all kinds) hunting in that county alone? Try and get out with one of them if you can. You'll learn more in a few days foxhunting than by reading all the forums on the internet.

charlie10

cheers thelurcher i appreciate that i must try and locate a few lads so or if there is any reading this id appreciate an invitation .

snipe02

thelurcher wrote: »

Thing is Charlie that it's either in them or it's not - you can't make a terrier work. You can however screw things up when the time comes to enter it.
Give it plenty of time and follow Cork Rebel's advice that he gave you above.
If you're from Cork as your sig says then I guarantee there's someone into terriers not too far from you. Something like 80 packs (of all kinds) hunting in that county alone? Try and get out with one of them if you can. You'll learn more in a few days foxhunting than by reading all the forums on the internet.

Nothing wrong with giving your dogs a rew rats in the right manner of course ,,, and I have dug to find a rabbit twice ,,, maybe you hunt with packs and the hounds are putting the foxes to ground but not all terrier work is done in open hunting I do agree that dropping dogs in a pocket should not be discussed on an open forum ,,,,,,my hand is up ...

thelurcher

snipe02 wrote: »

Nothing wrong with giving your dogs a rew rats in the right manner of course ,,, and I have dug to find a rabbit twice ,,, maybe you hunt with packs and the hounds are putting the foxes to ground but not all terrier work is done in open hunting I do agree that dropping dogs in a pocket should not be discussed on an open forum ,,,,,,my hand is up ...

I've dug to another persons dog on a rabbit - not my own though.
The fella that owned that dog would let them root at a rabbit burrow, stickpile or whatever - I let mine hunt them in the cover etc but once they put one in or cold mark I call them off straight away if I think it's a rabbit.
They'll come away no bother - if they don't you know there's something else at home.
I always run them with the B&F collars on just in case.

charlie10

well lads here she is with her second kill this one went smoothly opened the cage terrier chased and shook the **** out of it with a vise like grip