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roxychix

Just wondering dis any other secondary teachers not get paid today or am I the only poor teacher out there:)

dory

I got paid. Are you new in the school? Took me ages to get paid last year because the school had to do September returns first to see if they could justify having me!! They didn't tell me either so I had a few disappointing mondays before I figured out what was going on.

roxychix

Nope not new been there 7 years. Weird altogether. Im boi maybe somethin went wrong there will have to ring amd check thanks

dids6457

roxychix wrote: »

Nope not new been there 7 years. Weird altogether. Im boi maybe somethin went wrong there will have to ring amd check thanks

I'm the same and not a new teacher, others in our school who aren't BOI got paid, I called the bank and was told they are aware of a fault and the technical team are working on it! No idea of when it will be sorted! It's not good enough at all!

evolving_doors

dids6457 wrote: »

I'm the same and not a new teacher, others in our school who aren't BOI got paid, I called the bank and was told they are aware of a fault and the technical team are working on it! No idea of when it will be sorted! It's not good enough at all!

BOI spent it down the pub and bookies

Crazyteacher

I got sub pay all right . Ulster bank though. Hope it gets sorted soon for you.

sitstill

dids6457 wrote: »

I'm the same and not a new teacher, others in our school who aren't BOI got paid, I called the bank and was told they are aware of a fault and the technical team are working on it! No idea of when it will be sorted! It's not good enough at all!

I couldn't get through to BOI on the phone. Hopefully gets sorted soon.

Rapunzels

I got through to BOI, they told me that nobody in Bank of Ireland got paid, it's the bank's issue and it will go in "first thing" tomorrow. I'm raging.

Meangadh

I posted in the Bank of Ireland forum about this already, but just to say as well that is the final straw with BOI, I'm switching to Permanent TSB next week. BOI were already bugging me, but then they introduced crazy fees, and now I don't even get paid! An absolute disgrace. Luckily my mortgage came out in my last pay cheque- but I literally have no money in my account now- had to go into my overdraft today. If this isn't fixed by the morning I am going to be absolutely livid.

littlebsci

I've been paid in the last hour or so! Thank God!

Meangadh

Me too. Thank God is right, I've a direct debit for my credit card coming out tomorrow and of course there's no way Bank of Ireland will have any problems or delays removing money from my account!

RealJohn

Just saw this now and for what it's worth, I'm with BOI and was paid on time, as usual. Is it possible the problem is on your employer's end? I've never had a problem with BOI.

Miss Lockhart

Was it BOI's fault? Friends of mine were told by payroll that it was the department's fault - something to do with new SEPA requirements.

saythatagain

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

Was it BOI's fault? Friends of mine were told by payroll that it was the department's fault - something to do with new SEPA requirements.

Excuse my ignorance but what is SEPA?

Miss Lockhart

saythatagain wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance but what is SEPA?

Haven't really got a clue myself if I'm honest. Some new system being rolled out across bthe EU. More info here: http://www.ipso.ie/section/sepa

But that was the reason given by payroll to my friends. Could be nonsense though!

rainbowtrout

saythatagain wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance but what is SEPA?

It's where rather than just having a sort code and bank account number that you use the bank's IBAN code as well.


IBAN = International Bank Account Number.

It's a sequence of numbers and letters that prefixes your sort code and account number so an account can be traced to any bank in the world.

http://www.ibancalculator.com/bic_und_iban.html

Your IBAN has been printed for years on the top of your statements.



Shouldn't this be in the Banking forum, it hasn't got anything to do with teaching?


SEPA is indeed being rolled out across the EU and is not nonsense and all banks have to be compliant which means any businesses and institutions dealing with banks are also going to have to use those details.

This has been on the BOI 365 online Homepage for ages....... and when you click on the link: http://personalbanking.bankofireland.com/bank/sepa/

I don't get the increasing level of tinfoil hat theories in the T&L forum, 'I didn't get paid, it's a conspiracy'. Sometimes it's just a fcuk up on the bank's side.

solerina

Hope everyone got sorted, I know I got paid as usual but 3 of my colleagues (all BOI) didn't and rang payroll who told them it was only a fault with BOI customers, but didn't say whether they were at fault or they bank

Miss Lockhart

rainbowtrout wrote: »

SEPA is indeed being rolled out across the EU and is not nonsense and all banks have to be compliant which means any businesses and institutions dealing with banks are also going to have to use those details.

I don't get the increasing level of tinfoil hat theories in the T&L forum.

There was no suggestion that SEPA is nonsense, merely that the department's claim that this was the problem may be nonsense intended to fob people off.

And while I agree that usually pay issues are just down to errors, I think it is extremely disingenuous to talk of tinfoil hattery in the current context. We are in a period of industrial dispute with significant uncertainty still surrounding the implications of the latest deal rejection and listening to vague threats from the minister on a daily basis. We are also being told various reasons for these paynent delays and there is no coherent explanation given. Both bank and department have blamed each other in this case and the department also seems to have acknowledged fault at the same time. In the case of exam payments they have blamed seemingly hundreds of correctors for losing a form instead of admitting they didn't send it to many in the first place. They also fail to give realistic payment schedules from the start in light of cutbacks, leading to concern over late payments particularly from gthose new to the system. This disastrous communication adds to confusion and uncertainty.

I certainly can't blame those affected for being concerned and I find it hard to understand dismissive views like yours in that context.

rainbowtrout

Miss Lockhart wrote: »

There was no suggestion that SEPA is nonsense, merely that the department's claim that this was the problem may be nonsense intended to fob people off.

And while I agree that usually pay issues are just down to errors, I think it is extremely disingenuous to talk of tinfoil hattery in the current context. We are in a period of industrial dispute with significant uncertainty still surrounding the implications of the latest deal rejection and listening to vague threats from the minister on a daily basis. We are also being told various reasons for these paynent delays and there is no coherent explanation given. Both bank and department have blamed each other in this case and the department also seems to have acknowledged fault at the same time. In the case of exam payments they have blamed seemingly hundreds of correctors for losing a form instead of admitting they didn't send it to many in the first place. They also fail to give realistic payment schedules from the start in light of cutbacks, leading to concern over late payments particularly from gthose new to the system. This disastrous communication adds to confusion and uncertainty.

I certainly can't blame those affected for being concerned and I find it hard to understand dismissive views like yours in that context.

The Department of Education and the SEC are completely different bodies and payments from one have nothing to do with the other. Payments from the SEC in October have become the norm in the last few years, because people have retired from the SEC and have not been replaced; less people doing the same work. At the same time, more checks are being carried out to ensure examiners are not making claims for money they are not entitled to - mainly in the form of expenses. This makes the processing of a claim longer. So at the SEC end, less people and more thorough checks means a longer waiting time for payment.

I don't see it how industrial disputes has any bearing on it. People are hired to correct/supervise exams. By ticking the box and sending back the form they have formed a contract with the SEC for which they will receive payment. They've made a bit of a mess of it this year with the PRSI form, but I imagine there was an audit or something along those lines, or because of the way people are classed as D PRSI pre 1995, or A post 1995, and people get reclassified as new entrants if they leave teaching and re enter after 6 months, I assume this is creating a headache somewhere so it's now necessary to ask examiners for this information.

The Dept of Education are not just going to stop paying teachers as a result of an industrial dispute so it shouldn't even be brought into it. If a teacher has not got paid, and this has happened to me on a few occasions, my first port of call is asking in my staff room if anyone else didn't get paid. If it's everyone I work with, then it's most likely a VEC problem, quick call to VEC to see when payment can be expected. If I'm the only one with the problem, I'd still call my VEC first to see if there's a problem with my payment and if not then I'd be calling my bank. Yes, it's incredibly annoying if the mortgage is due out etc, but it's not the end of the world. Surely asking in the staff room will quickly determine if there's a problem rather than asking online?

Miss Lockhart

I agree with your points rainbowtrout but at the same time what difference does it make asking online?

I already said the issue over exam payments is most likely down to cutbacks and noted that it would particularly be those new to the system who would be concerned since later payments have occured for a few years now, but several out of date sources still imply payment will be processed in much shorter time frame of a few weeks. Again, all could be sorted by some decent commuication.

As for your trust that contracts will be honoured I'm afraid I don't have such faith. No I don't see teacher's pay just being stopped, but FEMPI has changed things utterly and for those outside HR I can still understand worry about sudden alterations to agreed payments. My own VEC when contacted earlier this year regarding late S&S payments, as suggested as the best source of information by yourself, told us outright that the department had told them to delay it pending the outcome of negotiations. In the end they paid it one month late rather than the three they say the department wanted and sent a note to everyone telling us they were doing this as a gesture of goodwill. Now was this true or was it nonsense? Who knows. But this shambles in communication is only adding to any worries, whether you believe them an exercise in tinfoil hattery or not.

Personally, while I think most concerns are essentially unfounded based on past events, I can't judge so harshly as you seem to.