Eire's Territorial Claim

first doyle

Would Eire's territorial claim over northern Ireland have made much of a difference had Fianna Fail ran candidates in the north aswel as the south?

And why didn't Fianna Fail form under an All Ireland party if they were so concerned about ending partition?

Capt'n Midnight

FF had a majority in the 26 counties. In a 32 county Ireland they would have lost that majority and the Unionists would have had the balance of power.

Look at the politics of Israel today to see the sort of things that leads to.

dubhthach

As a note eire ≠ Éire -- fada's are important people! (N.B. eire = burden/encumbrance)

tac foley

As with Seán - male person's forename, as commonly spelled, sean [old].

tac

riffmongous

Is there a way to write fadas out for people who don't have Irish keyboards and don't want to change the keyboard settings or say for a url? Like how in german you can write 'ö' as 'oe'

tac foley

Well, on my Japanese keyboard, I press the Alt Gr key and then the letter, and behold, it then gets its fada. Like this - á é í ó ú

No idea what you'd do with a Western keyboard, though.

tac

riffmongous

Well that used to work on the keyboard I used in Ireland, but now I only use German keyboards where it doesn't work

Cork boy 55

click on program-accessorizes-character map
Everything is there


é

riffmongous

That works alright.

But it still doesn't answer all of the original question concerning urls.. I am guessing not as sinn féin's website is sinnfein.ie, contrast with that of the FPÖ, fpoe.at.

Apologies for dragging this thread so far off topic

Perhaps it could even been split out and moved to the Irish language forum?

dubhthach

riffmongous wrote: »

That works alright.

But it still doesn't answer all of the original question concerning urls.. I am guessing not as sinn féin's website is sinnfein.ie, contrast with that of the FPÖ, fpoe.at.

Apologies for dragging this thread so far off topic

Perhaps it could even been split out and moved to the Irish language forum?

At the moment .ie doesn't support internationalised URL's (eg. with fada's) from what I've heard its in the works at some stage. Once that happens it would be valid to register domains such as sinnféin.ie etc

Of course in Dutch they dont use acute accents they just double the vowels, result ee in dutch is pronunced like é in Irish (and not like ee in English -- Great Vowel Shift in English after 15th century)

Seanbass

riffmongous wrote: »

Is there a way to write fadas out for people who don't have Irish keyboards and don't want to change the keyboard settings or say for a url? Like how in german you can write 'ö' as 'oe'

as a Seán I know this pain :P

hold Ctrl + Alt and whatever letter you choose

tac foley

Works for me on either of my Western lap-tops....thank you! Interesting that it only works, as it should, on vowels.

tac, not tác

jonniebgood1

tac foley wrote: »

tác

I knew it...

Neutronale

dubhthach wrote: »

As a note eire ≠ Éire -- fada's are important people! (N.B. eire = burden/encumbrance)

Also important to add that Éire means Ireland and refers to the whole country and not just the 26 counties.

dubhthach

Neutronale wrote: »

Also important to add that Éire means Ireland and refers to the whole country and not just the 26 counties.

I would have thought it was obvious after Ireland = (é)ire+land

riffmongous

Neutronale wrote: »

Also important to add that Éire means Ireland and refers to the whole country and not just the 26 counties.

You mean it can refer to both right?

tac foley

riffmongous wrote: »

You mean it can refer to both right?

Poetic useage of the name Éire predates the partition of Ireland.

tac