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Red Setter

  • 01-10-2013 09:13PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭


    Ok so I have been wondering about getting a red setter ,would they retrieve duck,pigeon aswell as pointing pheasants ,I wouldnt mind a springer but I love watching a pointer/ setter work . Are they hard to train to hunt and would they also make a good pet thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭huntsman77


    Have a red setter lovely dog very lively great manner good with kids he's 3 years old so expecting good things from him this year has no bother retrieving any bird he see,s falling . was told there slow to mature and seems true with my lad but worth the wait so I was told so fingers crossed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭Rosahane


    I had one about 30 years ago, out of a very very good strain. He was a beautiful dog and I doubt he ever missed a bird.

    I well remember the gentle exercise I had running madly down the side of a ploughed field as he sets a bird about 200 yards ahead and then either chased after it when it moved - as the cocks usually did - or grabbed it - usually a hen. On the rare occasions I was close enough, and had enough breath left to get in a shot he retrieved beautifully and usually only ate the breast of the bird.

    He was a randy bugger as well and being able to jump our 7 foot garden wall and any other garden wall in the neighbourhood was well known to the owners of bitches locally. They often called to complement us on his athletic prowess and ask nicely to keep him tied up until their pedigree King Charles or Poodle had an arranged date with a more suitable partner.

    For some reason he liked to poop in the middle of our slightly neurotic neighbour's front garden, although he may have just been attracted by the Jeyes Fluid she used to wash down the grass after she threw the poop into our garden.

    Along with a couple of other gundogs from the locality he was stolen one weekend when I was away fishing. He was only three years old and I have no doubt his best days were ahead of him.

    Seriously though, his lack do discipline was of course all my fault. I usually worked long hours, six day a week at the time, and dogs need continual work. So, if you have the time go for it. They are a beautiful dog and their numbers seem to be declining.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭warehouse1


    Get one you wont regret it. iv had a few red setters. I have one now at the moment who is 8 and he will still be going as strong at end of a days shooting as he was at the start. he hunts cover harder than any springer. Imo a red setter has the best stamina out of hunting dogs especially if there a little mad because at the end of the day there still mad for more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭natdog


    If its your first dog avoid it or a least pay the extra money and get an older dog that's proven.
    If you are going to get a pup you could be lucky and get a good one but a lot of them are stone mad and can be very hard to train.
    I had one who was a really cracker of a dog.He was great with kids and if not hunting he was a pleasure to walk. I had all the basics in training done but once out hunting he would drive you mad. Another thing is make sure you have a good run with a roof as a seven foot high run and seven foot walls were nothing to him.
    I made a lot of mistakes through lack of experience one was shooting birds over him that he flushed rather than set.
    In the end I had to get rid of him and got a springer and I don't think I would ever get a setter again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭vermin99


    So basically there great dogs but you have to have good patience with them?!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭jap gt


    I have a red setter. Shes just gone 3. She was my first dog. I made mistakes with her and she boiled my blood a few times. But i can honestly say i will never sell her. She is a pleasure to watch hunting. Great drive great nose

    If u can get one from good working lines they are very hard to beat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Staloejunior


    My first dog was a red setter. He was very easy to train to the whistle once you put in the time, had to get rid of him though because he was hunting with his nose too low wasn't setting atal!! Instead i'v gone to English setters and I've two at the moment and there absolute dingers on pheasants. They were harder to train but when you get them right you'll just find that there an absolute pleasure to hunt with. Mine would retrieve duck and pheasants never brought them out for pigeon though :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭irish setter


    if there got from the right lines there is practically no training to them and they still have the drive and stamina in them. imo the best bred ones can't be beat on bird work. there alot cleaner on game meaning when they set you know there's a bird there, not like some setters out there that will point any scent, bird there or not. if your genuinely interested in a good one pm me and i'll set you straight. i know where there is a 16 month old bitch going at the moment. she is a super bitch on game allready


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 678 ✭✭✭wirehairmax


    I've a year old pup. Not showing much yet. When does it "click" with reds? I'd hope he would be setting birds later this year. Gonna be doing a lot more with him hopefully in the next few weeks but I don't expect miracles though. I'll have to be patient with him I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭irish setter


    I've a year old pup. Not showing much yet. When does it "click" with reds? I'd hope he would be setting birds later this year. Gonna be doing a lot more with him hopefully in the next few weeks but I don't expect miracles though. I'll have to be patient with him I think

    the drive to find birds should be in them. pointing can come early or late. i have one 2 and a half who is only starting to settle on birds now but i've also had them point at 6 months. as long as the drive is in them i wouldn't worry but i'd expose him to as many birds as possible


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭vermin99


    Sorry forgot about this tread .got a trained red setter after and she hunted very well yesterday putting up 3 cocks and 2 hens and retrieved the 2 cocks I shot .thanks again :)


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