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Change Tractor?

  • 30-09-2013 1:07pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭


    Advice appreciated please.

    I have a Massey 168, good nick and going well. However it doesnt have a front loader and I could do with one.

    Trying to decide whether to go to the expense of getting a front loader and brackets fitted to the 168 or consider upgrading to a newer tractor with front loader? My budget if i was changing would be €10,000.

    What models would you recommend if i was to change in teh above budget?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    You seem to be a MF man so probably a MF290 4wd would be a good bet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭hugo29


    bouli73 wrote: »
    Advice appreciated please.

    I have a Massey 168, good nick and going well. However it doesnt have a front loader and I could do with one.

    Trying to decide whether to go to the expense of getting a front loader and brackets fitted to the 168 or consider upgrading to a newer tractor with front loader? My budget if i was changing would be €10,000.

    What models would you recommend if i was to change in teh above budget?

    Thanks

    had a front loader on my old 178, wouldnt recommend it, tractor became usless on wet ground


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭bouli73


    hugo29 wrote: »
    had a front loader on my old 178, wouldnt recommend it, tractor became usless on wet ground


    yeah, maybe i am wrong but that would be my fear as well. shame as it is going great


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    We have a DB996 with loader which would be similar enough.
    None of these 2wd tractors are suitable to be brought out on soft ground with the loader on.
    The front wheels are too smal and narrow, and it lifts weight of the rear too.

    However with a decent stand it's not too much bother dropping off the loader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 CAtocork


    I'd upgrade to a Case 885 4x4 with loader already fitted.
    Newer Massey's are way over priced


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭f140


    stick with the massey and get a good one and it will last you another 40 years like the 168. a nice 398 or 390t or 290 or something like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    f140 wrote: »
    stick with the massey and get a good one and it will last you another 40 years like the 168. a nice 398 or 390t or 290 or something like that.
    +1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    I be slow about buying a 290 most will have a lot of work done and very old. 390 might be an option but may be a bit over your budget for your money also you will only get a floor shift for a bit with that money. If it s tractor with a loader you will need a 4WD unless it will always be on concrete for the winter and you gave no soft ground.

    A Ford 5610 or 6610 will be an option but hard to come across a clean one. A case 4230 but you will need a good mechanic with you buying one however you will get one with a loader handy enough. A zetor 7540 if you can come across one. An older case would also be in the frame. However when buy a tractor in that price range you need a fella you can trust that knows that type of gear. You also need a fella that is familiar with a few different types of tractors and is not fixitated with one or two brands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    for €10k you could pick up a Deutz or maybe a 2850 JD or Same 100.4 all with loaders and a proper cab and have a bit of pulling power with you also so you can look at buying other machinery in time.

    or other option is put a back end loader on the 168 :D. I know a dairy lad beside my parents who had one on a 135 for 20 years. Only changed to a front loader in the last 2 years :eek:. Back end loader would be €600 - €1000 with a grab on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 CAtocork


    Don't get me wrong, Massey is a great tractor but paying 15k for a 20 year old tractor is obscene.
    I was looking at something similar last year and ended up buying a manitou loader for 7,500 and a ford tractor for 6,000.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    CAtocork wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, Massey is a great tractor but paying 15k for a 20 year old tractor is obscene.
    I was looking at something similar last year and ended up buying a manitou loader for 7,500 and a ford tractor for 6,000.
    Bb

    what model manitou is that? Are you happy with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 CAtocork


    simx wrote: »
    Bb

    what model manitou is that? Are you happy with it?

    Yes, very happy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 c_cathal


    CAtocork wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong, Massey is a great tractor but paying 15k for a 20 year old tractor is obscene.
    I was looking at something similar last year and ended up buying a manitou loader for 7,500 and a ford tractor for 6,000.
    Massey Prices do seem to be a bit obscene. I used to work for an agri contractor and had a 390. Lovely little tractor and plenty solid for a loader. Farmers love this tractor, some days you'd drive onto a farm and farmers would just stay and chat about the tractor, which never happened with the big fancy models.

    I think there is a Landini that is pretty much the same tractor built from the same parts. Would be cheaper than the equivalent 390 massey. Can't think of the model


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 c_cathal


    Just came to me . Its 8880 i think


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    c_cathal wrote: »
    Just came to me . Its 8880 i think
    or the 8660 or blizzard lineup


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Masseymad




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    Masseymad wrote: »
    your fond of the 600s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Masseymad


    well there cheaper and just as good apart from the cabs :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    Masseymad wrote: »
    well there cheaper and just as good apart from the cabs :(
    was just gonna say that, rust from the bottom up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Landini 8880 is a grand solid one. One at work since new and nota bother on her. Used for all the heavy work... Ploughing, rotavating, power harrowing for the last fifteen years and she's still motoring on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    Landini 8880 is a grand solid one. One at work since new and nota bother on her. Used for all the heavy work... Ploughing, rotavating, power harrowing for the last fifteen years and she's still motoring on.

    An 8880 will match any 390 anyday :D:cool:

    Nice and simple bus and a heck of a nicer cab than a MF 300 series IMV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    nashmach wrote: »
    An 8880 will match any 390 anyday :D:cool:

    Nice and simple bus and a heck of a nicer cab than a MF 300 series IMV.

    Cheek of ya :D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    Landini 8880 is a grand solid one. One at work since new and nota bother on her. Used for all the heavy work... Ploughing, rotavating, power harrowing for the last fifteen years and she's still motoring on.

    have a 9880 here and its only fit for scrap. Its a brilliant tractor to pull but the quality aint in it. 4WD is gone. Bearings on steering gone. And elctric lifts have broken twice this year. Im lucky i have dry land


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    jersey101 wrote: »
    have a 9880 here and its only fit for scrap. Its a brilliant tractor to pull but the quality aint in it. 4WD is gone. Bearings on steering gone. And elctric lifts have broken twice this year. Im lucky i have dry land
    its touch and go with them. if they are abused they fall apart but if minded


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    its touch and go with them. if they are abused they fall apart but if minded

    we never have time to mind em ha. We had a blizzard before her and she was a right little goer. Cab was very tight though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Sharpshooter82


    jersey101 wrote: »
    we never have time to mind em ha. We had a blizzard before her and she was a right little goer. Cab was very tight though
    yeah in fairness they never stay too long in the FIL garage when they are traded in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    jersey101 wrote: »
    have a 9880 here and its only fit for scrap. Its a brilliant tractor to pull but the quality aint in it. 4WD is gone. Bearings on steering gone. And elctric lifts have broken twice this year. Im lucky i have dry land

    What is up with the 4wd? It is a simple system.

    Electric lift is very very rare on 80 series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    jersey101 wrote: »
    have a 9880 here and its only fit for scrap. Its a brilliant tractor to pull but the quality aint in it. 4WD is gone. Bearings on steering gone. And elctric lifts have broken twice this year. Im lucky i have dry land

    What is up with the 4wd? It is a simple system.

    Electric lift is very very rare on 80 series.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭jomoloney


    nashmach wrote: »
    An 8880 will outmatch any 390 anyday :D:cool:

    Nice and simple bus and a heck of a nicer cab than a MF 300 series IMV.


    fixed that for you


    390 are the most over rated machine around


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭jersey101


    nashmach wrote: »
    What is up with the 4wd? It is a simple system.

    Electric lift is very very rare on 80 series.

    she has rung off on the crown and pinion and all the bearings on the steering are gone. Gonna cost big bucks to fix. Ye she was destined for france or somewhere like that but it was sold to an irish farmer thats why it has the electric lifts. It has an area meter aswell but it never worked since we got it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭nashmach


    jomoloney wrote: »
    fixed that for you


    390 are the most over rated machine around

    Won't see any disagreement from me on that one!


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