Seve Trophy Teams Announced

A.Partridge

Looks like the Continental Europe side is the strongest...does anyone disagree?

http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/season=2013/tournamentid=2013078/news/newsid=206852.html

Continental Europe: Led by Captain José María Olazábal, who steered Europe to Ryder Cup glory in 2012, the Continental Europe Team includes three of the Spaniard’s stars from the ‘Miracle at Medinah’, Belgian Nicolas Colsaerts, Swede Peter Hanson and Italian Francesco Molinari, as well as two of his vice captains, Denmark’s Thomas Björn, the winner of the Omega European Masters, and Spaniard Miguel Angel Jiménez.

They will be joined at St-Nom-La Bretèche Golf Club, in France, by Finland’s Mikko Ilonen and Italian Matteo Manassero, who played in the contest in 2007 and 2011 respectively, and three debutants, Frenchman Grégory Bourdy, Dutchman Joost Luiten and Dane Thorbjørn Olesen.


GB & IRE: Sam Torrance, the victorious 2002 European Ryder Cup Captain, will lead the Great Britain & Ireland team, which includes Scotland’s Paul Lawrie, another member of last year’s historic Ryder Cup team, and Englishman Paul Casey, a three-time Ryder Cup player.

Englishman Chris Wood, who was undefeated on his last appearance in 2009, returns to the fold, along with Scotland’s Marc Warren, who last featured in 2007, and Welshman Jamie Donaldson and Scotland’s Scott Jamieson, who were both part of the victorious team two years ago.

There are also four debutants, with the English trio of Tommy Fleetwood, David Lynn, and Simon Khan joined by Scotland’s Stephen Gallacher.

Continental Europe won the first edition of the contest 13 years ago, while Great Britain and Ireland have won the last six matches in succession, claiming a 15½-12½ success two years ago at St-Nom-La Bretèche Golf Club, which hosts the event for the third consecutive time.

RikkFlair

No Irishman on the team.....GO TEAM EUROPE

Yeah they have a stronger team on paper all right, only won it once so they'll be keen to win this one.

Trampas

Maybe the Irishmen said no.

Don't see the point in have Jose and Sam as captains when future Ryder Cup captains should have been selected by McGinley or maybe they said no also.

ssbob

Trampas wrote: »

Maybe the Irishmen said no.

Don't see the point in have Jose and Sam as captains when future Ryder Cup captains should have been selected by McGinley or maybe they said no also.

Ya Rory and G-mac declined while Shane Lowry and PH missed out by one spot. I am not so sure PH would have played anyway condsidering he needs to get RTD points and WR points accumulated quickly.

A.Partridge

ssbob wrote: »

Ya Rory and G-mac declined while Shane Lowry and PH missed out by one spot. I am not so sure PH would have played anyway condsidering he needs to get RTD points and WR points accumulated quickly.

It would have been great to see Shane Lowry in the team.

I'd say he would have found team match play to his liking.

AGC

Trampas wrote: »

Maybe the Irishmen said no.

Don't see the point in have Jose and Sam as captains when future Ryder Cup captains should have been selected by McGinley or maybe they said no also.

Think McGinley did have a big say?

A.Partridge

AGC wrote: »

Think McGinley did have a big say?

Hard to know.

Although there was rumour that he and Darren Clarke were having some differences of opinion. Maybe McGinley wanted to have José and Sam because he didn't want any RC vice captain's taking on the role and causing more friction?

Anybody else got a theory?

ssbob

A.Partridge wrote: »

Although there was rumour that he and Darren Clarke were having some differences of opinion. Maybe McGinley wanted to have José and Sam because he didn't want any RC vice captain's taking on the role and causing more friction?

He hasn't picked any Vice-Captains yet though which I see as strange!

You'd imagine it would be Darren, a Spaniard(Miguel), maybe Bjorn and Thomas Levet or someone like that?

Keano

Paul Lawrie has, and rightly so, criticised some of the European stars not being available. They all talk about him but won't play in the tournament!

FixdePitchmark

Don't know how that was picked. But, a bit mad no Irishman.

But I guess thry didn't make themselves available or not playing well enough.

Imagine Lowry would have been ideal.

sydneybound

I know I might come across as harsh but I think all these pros giving Seve lip service at last years Ryder Cup then not playing this week is a disgrace.

Someone like Garcia giving it the big one saying Seve inspired him throughout the round and then a year later not bothering to play in the tournament they named after him is a joke. Besides its a fellow countrymans tournament so you would think he would make the effort anyway.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/golf/article-2211030/Ryder-Cup-2012-Sergio-Garcia-says-Seve-Ballesteros-inspired-Europe-victory.html

I know pros will say its been busy with the FedEx but Poulter for example didnt make the top 30, which meant he didnt play last week and now has the next 5 weeks off till his next event. I'm sure he could have found time to play this week.

A.Partridge

I have a sinking feeling that this could be the last Seve Trophy. No Mc Ilroy, no McDowell, no Westwood, no Rose, no Donald, no Stenson. It just seems that some of the top European players would rather play the PGA tour (i.e. $$$$$) without the 'inconvenience' of turning up for a team event.

In many ways I can't say I blame them. Their first concern is to look after their career and the money on offer in the States is just too big to ignore.
Some people might feel ah sure, it's only the Seve Trophy.

But, wait until the top players start turning their backs on the Ryder Cup. It remains to be seen if McGinley will be influential enough over the next eleven months to ensure that he has a full squad to pick from. I agree with ssbob - it's very strange that McGinley hasn't picked his vice captain's yet.

RikkFlair

A.Partridge wrote: »

I agree with ssbob - it's very strange that McGinley hasn't picked his vice captain's yet.

Not at all....sure Olazabal didnt name his vice captains til August

http://www.europeantour.com/rydercup/news/newsid=169891.html

ArmaniJeanss

A.Partridge wrote: »

In many ways I can't say I blame them. Their first concern is to look after their career and the money on offer in the States is just too big to ignore.
Some people might feel ah sure, it's only the Seve Trophy.

But, wait until the top players start turning their backs on the Ryder Cup. It remains to be seen if McGinley will be influential enough over the next eleven months to ensure that he has a full squad to pick from.

I think theres very little chance of any European ever being unavailable for the Ryder Cup for 'couldnt be bothered reasons'.

Even a player who doesn't particularly care for the event,and I don't think theres (m)any, will surely realize that its good for their career for a multitude of reasons.

That they couldn't be arsed playing the Seve Trophy is of no relevance imo, its a fairly pointless event.

sydneybound

A.Partridge wrote: »

I have a sinking feeling that this could be the last Seve Trophy. No Mc Ilroy, no McDowell, no Westwood, no Rose, no Donald, no Stenson. In many ways I can't say I blame them. Their first concern is to look after their career and the money on offer in the States is just too big to ignore.
Some people might feel ah sure, it's only the Seve Trophy.:

In fairness this is McIlroy, McDowell, Westwood, Poulter, Garcia, Rose, Donald and Stenson we are talking about. These lads have a fair few bucks in the bank and could happily retire tomorrow, never play the game again and not have to worry about money issues. To flat out refuse to play is poor form IMO, just hope at the next Ryder Cup they dont come out with the line, I was won this match in memory of Seve, we want his memory to live on etc... Lads..you could have does this by playing in the European Tour organised event named after him!!

Although on a much larger scale and to be fair you can't really compare, no players from the rest of the world team pulled out of the presidents cup. Just something to note.

Gin77

sydneybound wrote: »

In fairness this is McIlroy, McDowell, Westwood, Poulter, Garcia, Rose, Donald and Stenson we are talking about. These lads have a fair few bucks in the bank and could happily retire tomorrow, never play the game again and not have to worry about money issues. To flat out refuse to play is poor form IMO, just hope at the next Ryder Cup they dont come out with the line, I
was won this match in memory of Seve, we want his memory to live on etc... Lads..you could have does this by playing in the European Tour organised event named after him!!


Although on a much larger scale and to be fair you can't really compare, no players from the rest of the world team pulled out of the presidents cup. Just something to note.

Mcilroy did them a favor I reckon.

Martin567

ssbob wrote: »

He hasn't picked any Vice-Captains yet though which I see as strange!

You'd imagine it would be Darren, a Spaniard(Miguel), maybe Bjorn and Thomas Levet or someone like that?

If the Ryder Cup was taking place this year, I could see Padraig being a vice-captain ahead of Darren. It appears to me that the relationship between Paul and Darren is very strained. On the other hand, I could be completely wrong!

As far as I recall from other years, it's not that unusual to wait until a few months before to announce the vice-captains. No point in picking someone and then having to change because that player might actually qualify for the team.

RikkFlair

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

That they couldn't be arsed playing the Seve Trophy is of no relevance imo, its a fairly pointless event.

In the events current state, it should be a sort of training run for potential future Ryder Cup captains, like McGinley being captain before he got the main job.

In that regard, the captains picked for Seve Trophy 2013 do seem a bit pointless.

A.Partridge

I see Gonzo has been brought in to replace the injured Peter Hanson.

There is strength in depth with the Continental European side.