U P C CONTRACT

tony melia

I have just spoken to u p c about cancelling my contract because i was thinking of getting freesat channels as their prices are to dear.On speaking to their rep on phone 'he informed me that soon these channels will be gone as 3g/4g will do away with signal .Can anyone tell me is this man bull****ing me or is it true

gtg60

Ha ha, total bull!

The Cush

tony melia wrote: »

On speaking to their rep on phone 'he informed me that soon these channels will be gone as 3g/4g will do away with signal. Can anyone tell me is this man bull****ing me or is it true

Rubbish, freesat operates from satellite. 3g/4g are mobile terrestrial networks that have no effect on satellite reception.

You should post this over in the Talk to UPC forum and see what the reps there have to say - http://www.boards.ie/ttforum/1546

lertsnim

Almost as good as the guy who said there wasn't enough satellite signal for everybody in Rosslare, Co. Wexford

fryup

are upc and sky worried now that so many people are leavin for FTA??

tony melia

UPC have just send me a p/m apologising for misinforming me '.So are they admitting that to hold customers or get new customers they are using scare tatics .This company have disgusted me with deliberate lying and i am very disappointed. And when possible i will be going elsewhere in future

tallaghtmick

tony melia wrote: »

UPC have just send me a p/m apologising for misinforming me '.So are they admitting that to hold customers or get new customers they are using scare tatics .This company have disgusted me with deliberate lying and i am very disappointed. And when possible i will be going elsewhere in future

To be honest Freeview and Saorview channels do not compare to UPC or SKY channels, you will be dissapointed.

watty

But 92% of viewing time of Sky & UPC customers is of free channels.

Only those wanting Sky Sports will be truly disappointed. The money saved buys a lot of boxed sets too.

So 2% to 20% of the time you might be disappointed (8% on average) depending on interests.

fryup

and the nat geo and the discovery channels have really gone down hill in recent years

tallaghtmick

watty wrote: »

But 92% of viewing time of Sky & UPC customers is of free channels.

Only those wanting Sky Sports will be truly disappointed. The money saved buys a lot of boxed sets too.

So 2% to 20% of the time you might be disappointed (8% on average) depending on interests.

Never heard of that before, any proof?

tony melia

tallaghtmick wrote: »

To be honest Freeview and Saorview channels do not compare to UPC or SKY channels, you will be dissapointed.

I bought a walker tv with built in sat receiver 'i now get bbc; itv; channel 4 free in HD plus i get channell five and five usa and many many more channels .plus saorview with a small aerial .As somebody already said nat geo and discovery are rubbish repeating the same stuff daily .With this new telly i can record and pause live tv 'now UPC want to charge me extra for HD
which i am getting free .i cant wait to get out of upc contract as far as i am concerned they are only pick pockets .Just to add this new television is a 40ins and it only cost €390 it will pay for it self in no time

dubrov

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Never heard of that before, any proof?

Do you really need any?

It's fairly obvious that people watch RTE/TV3/BBC/ITV/CH4/E4 most of the time.

There are a few minor channels on UPC that are not on FTA/Saorview which you would lose out on. You also gain on some other minor channels.

The key difference is subscription sport which is only avaialble via Sky/UPC

kooga

dubrov wrote: »

Do you really need any?

It's fairly obvious that people watch RTE/TV3/BBC/ITV/CH4/E4 most of the time.

There are a few minor channels on UPC that are not on FTA/Saorview which you would lose out on. You also gain on some other minor channels.

The key difference is subscription sport which is only avaialble via Sky/UPC

i agree tv watching for my household last night

7-8pm kids watched popgirl (fta Channel)
8-9 great western railway channel 5 (fta)
9-10 Peaky blinders BBC hd (fta)
10.15- 11 the good wife rte 1 (fta)

tonight pleanty of FTA rabo pro 12 rugby on.

The_Valeyard

Very pissed off with UPC at the moment, do not believe a word they say!

Downgraded my Horizon package on Monday, and somehow, they screwed up the my box

Have had no signal since Monday, been on the phone nearly every day since, was promised they would call back, but still has not been sorted.

OP, I think I shall be going like you with FTA

But may also use Netflix with my PS3

tallaghtmick

dubrov wrote: »

Do you really need any?

It's fairly obvious that people watch RTE/TV3/BBC/ITV/CH4/E4 most of the time.

There are a few minor channels on UPC that are not on FTA/Saorview which you would lose out on. You also gain on some other minor channels.

The key difference is subscription sport which is only avaialble via Sky/UPC

Well yes I do, I had Freeview for over a week while waiting for UPC to come out and I could barely find anything decent to watch, while I was lucky that my sons favourite channel was Freeview but he would ask for other that arent there, also I missed the likes of sky sports news etc

iba

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Well yes I do, I had Freeview for over a week while waiting for UPC to come out and I could barely find anything decent to watch, while I was lucky that my sons favourite channel was Freeview but he would ask for other that arent there, also I missed the likes of sky sports news etc

Sorry but my curiosity has got the better of me and I would like to ask, what other stations do you watch, besides Sky Sports News, that are not available for free on satellite eg BBC and terrestrial eg RTE please?

Regards

iba

tony melia wrote: »

I have just spoken to u p c about cancelling my contract because i was thinking of getting freesat channels as their prices are to dear.On speaking to their rep on phone 'he informed me that soon these channels will be gone as 3g/4g will do away with signal .Can anyone tell me is this man bull****ing me or is it true

UPC have lied to me so many many times it is unreal.

One time they told me that the price had gone up because the Government had increased VAT at the last budget - needless to say, the Government had not increased VAT in the budget in question.

tallaghtmick

iba wrote: »

Sorry but my curiosity has got the better of me and I would like to ask, what other stations do you watch, besides Sky Sports News, that are not available for free on satellite eg BBC and terrestrial eg RTE please?

Regards

Theres the history/discovery channels, a few sports channels, music channels, sky news aswell, my sister watches a lot of stuff on channels you def cant get on freeview, Sky 1 Sky 2 etc, I really dont have the list here in work but theres more.

watty

Sky News is free
Lots and Lots of repeats on The Hitler channel (there is OTHER history, but not much on the History Channel), the Mythbreakers channel and the Clarkson channel.

watty

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Never heard of that before, any proof?

Nielsen "TAM" in Ireland and BARB in UK. Well Documented. No-one in the Industry disputes it. It may vary a bit from year to year.

Phoenix3

tony melia wrote: »

I bought a walker tv with built in sat receiver 'i now get bbc; itv; channel 4 free in HD plus i get channell five and five usa and many many more channels .plus saorview with a small aerial .As somebody already said nat geo and discovery are rubbish repeating the same stuff daily .With this new telly i can record and pause live tv 'now UPC want to charge me extra for HD
which i am getting free .i cant wait to get out of upc contract as far as i am concerned they are only pick pockets .Just to add this new television is a 40ins and it only cost €390 it will pay for it self in no time

Just wondering what size TV did you buy?I am running a 26" Walker since June am am still amazed when I turn it on-the quality is stunning and RTE are testing new HD channels so happy days.

steveon

tony melia wrote: »

I have just spoken to u p c about cancelling my contract because i was thinking of getting freesat channels as their prices are to dear.On speaking to their rep on phone 'he informed me that soon these channels will be gone as 3g/4g will do away with signal .Can anyone tell me is this man bull****ing me or is it true

When I terminated my contract in UPC my ex boss told me freesat wouldnt last a few more months that was now over 5 yrs ago and since then the amount of free channels have quadrupled and its only a matter of time before more join suit......and the hindsight is he now lost his contract with UPC....scare tactics like this shouldnt be allowed.

tony melia

now freesat have told me bbc are adding bbc + 1 and bbc 3 and 4 and utv are going hd plus they will be adding extra channels.So excuse my french but up yours U P C

Guy:Incognito

tony melia wrote: »

now freesat have told me bbc are adding bbc + 1 and bbc 3 and 4 and utv are going hd plus they will be adding extra channels.So excuse my french but up yours U P C

Why are bbc 3/4 and utv going hd making such a big difference? Surely your either watching them or not?

Fresh Pots

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Why are bbc 3/4 and utv going hd making such a big difference? Surely your either watching them or not?

HD is better!

tony melia

TheTechGuy wrote: »

HD is better!

and it.s cost nothing where as u.p.c want to charge me extra for it:D

Guy:Incognito

TheTechGuy wrote: »

HD is better!

Yes but if the program is **** its still **** if it looks better. Surely the content is the most important.hd is a nice bonus but it woupdnt have me dropping a whole heap of channels I watch in sd so I can watch something ive no interest in in hd.

Guy:Incognito

tony melia wrote: »

and it.s cost nothing where as u.p.c want to charge me extra for it:D

The point being though , you already had those channels and didnt switch to freesat, so why is the picture being better on some channels that you dodnt seem to value enough to switch suddenly a deal breaker? Will you be watching them purely because they are in hd?

tony melia

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The point being though , you already had those channels and didnt switch to freesat, so why is the picture being better on some channels that you dodnt seem to value enough to switch suddenly a deal breaker? Will you be watching them purely because they are in hd?

the channels i wont get i.e. history national geography and the other rubbish are not worth looking at 'so why should i pay u.p.c. over €1 or 2 thousand per annum for this rubbish .I and people like have better things to do with our money .as far as i am concerned upc are only pick-pockets and if you are foolish enough then pay them .They are losing many many customers to free sat and with many more channels being added monthly they are going to lose many more:)

tallaghtmick

To be honest Freesat viewers are like cyclists they cant see the negatives and slag off the rest. There is no talking to them, Me I like my sports and Movie channels and decent kids channels for my son none of them you can get on Freeview.

GerardKeating

tallaghtmick wrote: »

To be honest Freesat viewers are like cyclists they cant see the negatives and slag off the rest. There is no talking to them, Me I like my sports and Movie channels and decent kids channels for my son none of them you can get on Freeview.

Am a FreeSat/SaorView viewer, when I bother to watch Broadcast TV, if it was not for broadband, I would have a SKY or UPC contract.

tony melia

tallaghtmick wrote: »

To be honest Freesat viewers are like cyclists they cant see the negatives and slag off the rest. There is no talking to them, Me I like my sports and Movie channels and decent kids channels for my son none of them you can get on Freeview.

Nobody is slagging off anyone god forbid 'just stating fact 'as for childrens channels there are load of them probably as many as upc remember itv... bbc... childrens channels and more' as for sport you can get a sky sports viewing card much much chaeaper than paying upc annual fee even when your television is switched off .But who am i to critisise people if they are foolish enough to pay for something they can get for nothing :eek::eek:

homingbird

tallaghtmick wrote: »

To be honest Freesat viewers are like cyclists they cant see the negatives and slag off the rest. There is no talking to them, Me I like my sports and Movie channels and decent kids channels for my son none of them you can get on Freeview.

If you install [deleted] on xbmc you will get those sport & movie channels free problem solved.

tallaghtmick

homingbird wrote: »

If you install [deleted] on xbmc you will get those sport & movie channels free problem solved.

Legally?

lertsnim

Legally or not they can still watch the same sporting events as you and probably a whole lot more too

tallaghtmick

lertsnim wrote: »

Legally or not they can still watch the same sporting events as you and probably a whole lot more too

Sure if I wanted illegal I could get a dodgy box? What we're talking about here is legal methods.

homingbird

No discussing breaking regional restrictions - ICDG

tallaghtmick

homingbird wrote: »

Navi-x is a software that run in xbmc which is a media player. Navi x host live streams of your favorite sky channels that people stream & you can watch for free if you have a good internet speed. Check out youtube on how to set it up on your pc or buy a xmbc box to conect to your tv.

I have sky already but could use it for times im away, thanks for the tip.

radiowaves

tony melia wrote: »

the channels i wont get i.e. history national geography and the other rubbish are not worth looking at 'so why should i pay u.p.c. over €1 or 2 thousand per annum for this rubbish .I and people like have better things to do with our money .as far as i am concerned upc are only pick-pockets and if you are foolish enough then pay them .They are losing many many customers to free sat and with many more channels being added monthly they are going to lose many more:)

Why did you subscribe in the first place?

Why were you foolish enough to pay them?

Without question, most people who go to subscription services do so for premium football, the latest movies and documentaries.
My guess is that a lot of present migration is down to economics; I doubt if more free channels make that much difference to people choosing to leave UPC or Sky, if the FTA ones that were already there weren't attractive enough to prevent subscription in the first place.
And with the FTA channels also available on pay platform EPGs it is the best of both worlds for those that are, how did you put it: foolish enough to subscribe.

radiowaves

tony melia wrote: »

Nobody is slagging off anyone god forbid 'just stating fact 'as for childrens channels there are load of them probably as many as upc remember itv... bbc... childrens channels and more'

As for kids channels, there may be loads for free but not the ones that TallaghtMick wants - as he stated in his post

tony melia wrote: »

as for sport you can get a sky sports viewing card much much chaeaper than paying upc annual fee even when your television is switched off

.

Ah so it's not so much about free tv versus subscription tv but some gripe you have with UPC in particular? Is Sky Sports via Sky any cheaper than UPC? I doubt there's much in it...

tony melia wrote: »

But who am i to critisise people if they are foolish enough to pay for something they can get for nothing :eek::eek:

Well you don't seem to be able to stop yourself! Mind you, as you were one of them until recently you know how foolish people are, eh?

tony melia

radiowaves wrote: »

Why did you subscribe in the first place?

Why were you foolish enough to pay them?

Without question, most people who go to subscription services do so for premium football, the latest movies and documentaries.
My guess is that a lot of present migration is down to economics; I doubt if more free channels make that much difference to people choosing to leave UPC or Sky, if the FTA ones that were already there weren't attractive enough to prevent subscription in the first place.
And with the FTA channels also available on pay platform EPGs it is the best of both worlds for those that are, how did you put it: foolish enough to subscribe.

i went to them many years ago before freesat became as good as it is now .MY contract ends with them in may 14 i will be away from them like a blue arse fly .By the way on another thread i told people that a u. p. c. rep rang me and told me that 4g would stop people in ireland from getting freesat 'which was a load of bu****it 'i for one don't want to be part of a company who would stoop so low as to get it's staff to lie to get new or hold on to old customers .hallaujah i have seen the light:D

radiowaves

tony melia wrote: »

i went to them many years ago before freesat became as good as it is now .MY contract ends with them in may 14 i will be away from them like a blue arse fly .By the way on another thread i told people that a u. p. c. rep rang me and told me that 4g would stop people in ireland from getting freesat 'which was a load of bu****it 'i for one don't want to be part of a company who would stoop so low as to get it's staff to lie to get new or hold on to old customers .hallaujah i have seen the light:D

But Freesat has been as good as it is now for a few years - has it taken you this long to stop being, how did you put it, oh yeah - foolish?

And, as pointed it, your issue is not about Freesat, it's about UPC. Other sales reps (including at Sky whom you appear to think is better than UPC) will also make outlandish claims to sell you goods. In dozens of sales fields I've had reps tell me all sorts. I would never let it put me off something I wanted.

tony melia

radiowaves wrote: »

But Freesat has been as good as it is now for a few years - has it taken you this long to stop being, how did you put it, oh yeah - foolish?

And, as pointed it, your issue is not about Freesat, it's about UPC. Other sales reps (including at Sky whom you appear to think is better than UPC) will also make outlandish claims to sell you goods. In dozens of sales fields I've had reps tell me all sorts. I would never let it put me off something I wanted.

To say freesat has not improved rapidily in the last 2/3 yrs 'that proves something to me ' so lets agree to differ 'your right i am being foolish':p:p BYE

radiowaves

tony melia wrote: »

To say freesat has not improved rapidily in the last 2/3 yrs 'that proves something to me ' so lets agree to differ 'your right i am being foolish':p:p BYE

Explain the "rapid" improvements to me....

You admitted to being foolish (in the past) using your own logic

At no point did I say you are being foolish?

Read before you rant, eh

tony melia

radiowaves wrote: »

Explain the "rapid" improvements to me....

You admitted to being foolish (in the past) using your own logic

At no point did I say you are being foolish?

Read before you rant, eh

Your doing all the ranting GO AWAY you idiot 'thats the last contact from me' go try bully someone else

radiowaves

tony melia wrote: »

Your doing all the ranting GO AWAY you idiot 'thats the last contact from me' go try bully someone else

Nice to see intelligent debate lives and breathes!

I wonder why they thought they'd get away with telling you 4G would interfere with Freesat

When you come onto a forum and call many of the people on board "foolish" (what exactly do you class as bullying ) - as if they are incapable of making up their own minds on the matter - and admit that you've been foolish too, can you be surprised that you get questioned on it?

It's a simple question; name the rapid improvements made in the Freesat service that has convinced you to drop subscription TV? Losing the head is a strange reaction to be honest.

Ronnie Raygun

tony melia wrote: »

now freesat have told me bbc are adding bbc + 1 and bbc 3 and 4 and utv are going hd plus they will be adding extra channels.So excuse my french but up yours U P C

Will you be getting Freesat broadband too?

Guy:Incognito

lertsnim wrote: »

Legally or not they can still watch the same sporting events as you and probably a whole lot more too

Sure why pay for anything so? Just go to tesco and steal your weeks shopping

tallaghtmick

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Sure why pay for anything so? Just go to tesco and steal your weeks shopping

Ok you go nick from Tesco and tell us how you get on.

Ill go buy a dodgy box and see who gets caught first :pac:

Guy:Incognito

tallaghtmick wrote: »

Ok you go nick from Tesco and tell us how you get on.

Ill go buy a dodgy box and see who gets caught first :pac:

Thats where your moral compass lies so? Its ok to steal ad long as the risk of getting caught is low? Maybe knock over a few houses as long as the people are on holiday yeah?

icdg

Not sure how I missed this thread for so long - was going to move it to Cable but TBH there is so much wrong with it that closing it seems the best thing to do.

tonymelia gets a warning for the abuse, homing bird for discussing circumventing regional restrictions and tallaghtmick for his responses, I don't care if they were tongue in cheek.