RSA Revenue Camera vans......

galwaytt

...does anyone know if there is anything about where these are positioned, vis-à-vis private versus public property/road, for the purposes of catching out motorists ?

....what I mean is, there is one location near my house where he parks up. It is not a hard shoulder, it is not part of the public road. It is off the road on a persons private property, but photographs the public road from there. The question I have is, is there anything in regulations about they must be located ON or IN a public space for their work to be valid ?

Now, I know the short answer is to run them from it, and the owner is away atmo, so I will be seeing if that can be done when owner comes back.

gordongekko

Or just obey the rules of the road and pay your motor tax.

keithclancy

AFAIK they can't just park in any old spot, they are set out in advance.

If it was on private land then the landowner would need to give permission, perhaps go talk to them about it.

If they have access to it, its a public place.

keithclancy

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If they have access to it, its a public place.

If that was the case I would stick up a tiny sign someplace saying:

"Using camera equipment on this land constitutes agreement to a 10% surcharge on all revenue generated from taking pictures" ::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

07Lapierre

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If they have access to it, its a public place.

So they can park in your driveway if you leave the gates open/unlocked?

_Kaiser_

gordongekko wrote: »

Or just obey the rules of the road and pay your motor tax.

Ironic username is ironic!

OP: If I had one, I'd probably park my own van behind them and walk away

DrumSteve

gordongekko wrote: »

Or just obey the rules of the road and pay your motor tax.

This really has zero relevance to this thread.

07Lapierre

07Lapierre wrote: »

So they can park in your driveway if you leave the gates open/unlocked?

Technically, yes. It could be considered trespassing.

MugMugs

From what I know the landowner put a stop to GoSafe using this area for their work.

_Kaiser_

MugMugs wrote: »

From what I know the landowner put a stop to GoSafe using this area for their work.

Looks about right.. long straight stretch of road with plenty of visibility :rolleyes:

lway

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Ironic username is ironic!

OP: If I had one, I'd probably park my own van behind them and walk away

A car dealer near my home place got so tired of teh speed vans parking at the entrance to his place that he got his own white van and used to park it there so they couldn't use it. They moved up the road a bit but anytime he sees them out he puts out his own van in the hope that people see his van and have slowed down before they get to the actual Speed van.

A bit like that spot between Loughrea and Ballinasloe on the old Galway Dublin road where it goes from a wide 100kph stratch down to 80kph narrow zindy bit, the Gards used to park in front of an abandoned house just after the limit dropped to 80 and catch people who hadn't slowed down, locals took to dropping big boulders in front of the abandoned house so they can't park there.

_Kaiser_

lway wrote: »

A car dealer near my home place got so tired of teh speed vans parking at the entrance to his place that he got his own white van and used to park it there so they couldn't use it. They moved up the road a bit but anytime he sees them out he puts out his own van in the hope that people see his van and have slowed down before they get to the actual Speed van.

"If you are still over the limit when you pass me you're ok.. if you pass the next one though you're fecked!"

MugMugs

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Looks about right.. long straight stretch of road with plenty of visibility :rolleyes:

The vans were generally pulled in behind the bush so if heading toward the M1 you'd only see the van just as you passed the bush.

It was a nice money maker for them.

Kaiser2000

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

"If you are still over the limit when you pass me you're ok.. if you pass the next one though you're fecked!"

Big huge letters "SLOW DOWN" then in small letters "to see our amazing deals".

galwaytt

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If they have access to it, its a public place.

No they don't. They don't have access to private property without the (implied) consent of the owner(s). As mentioned above, by me leaving my gates open doesn't mean you can just come in.

In rural areas, the space outside your house is surfaced to allow for parking, to facilitate 'habitual enjoyment' of your home by allowing your visitors to park without interfering with traffic. It's a condition of your planning permission that you do this. You have to provide it, surface it and provide that it does not drain on to the public road. It is YOUR private space, and remains part of your property folio in the Land Registry. Proof ? When the CoCo do the usual pothole filling or tar & chipping, they stop on the line of that space - they will not cross into it (which is worth remembering for 'Irish Water' fans...........

None of this makes it a public space, and if someone parks there whom you don't want, you can go out and get them to move on.

07Lapierre

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Technically, yes. It could be considered trespassing.

I would certainly consider it Trespassing!

mickdw

Gosafe van was parking outside a local publicans private house and catching people. Publican was losing trade as it was rumoured that he was taking cash off them etc.
Gardai refused to help and gosafe guy rold him to f off. In the end, he got 2 vans and blocked him in. That put an end to it.

Doom

Put up a clamping sign....

_Kaiser_

mickdw wrote: »

Gosafe van was parking outside a local publicans private house and catching people. Publican was losing trade as it was rumoured that he was taking cash off them etc.
Gardai refused to help and gosafe guy rold him to f off. In the end, he got 2 vans and blocked him in. That put an end to it.

It'd almost be worth buying two "junk" transits that you could leave there permanently... unless they DID pay him to move them :P

Anan1

mickdw wrote: »

Publican was losing trade as it was rumoured that he was taking cash off them etc.

Seriously, what kind of halfwit customers did he have?