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19th Century military records

  • 22-09-2013 10:18am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭


    I am trying to trace my GGG Grandfather Walter Glover who was listed as a soldier on his daughter's marriage cert in 1848. I have tracked him down to Castletownbere in 1822. I suspect he may have been stationed at the military/naval base on Bere Island. I have a record of the birth of his first son there in 1822.
    http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a303e20155788
    Searching through military records online the only record I have found is the one posted below. Does anyone know if I can get more details or anything that might verify if this is the Walter I am looking for.

    First Name: Walter
    Initials: W
    Surname: Glover
    Nationality: British
    Rank: Sergeant R M
    Campaign Medals:
    Naval General Service Medal

    Clasps Awarded: St. Domingo

    Service: Royal Navy
    Ship: hms donegal

    Any advice would be much appreciated


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    all I can add a rough timeframe for that entry..

    'Naval General Service Medal 1793-1840, Surviving men entitled to Naval General Service Medal clasps for actions between 1793 and 1827'

    suspect you might have to check for actual records in London (Kew or Maritime Museum etc) to see if there are more details - e.g. crew lists etc.. They dont usually give family details, but might include details of where his ship was based at various times.

    There were several ships named H.M.S. Donegal, but the one that fits best was captured from the French in 1798.

    edit : you can try searching the National Archives London online for possible reference - see : here
    If you find a reference to the ship, or even that Walter Glover, you may be able pay for a download document.

    Search results for the various HMS Donegal Ships


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭jos28


    Thanks Shane, you must have a pain reading so many posts from me trying to find Walter ! He is the link that will show me where my family originated so I can't give. I even managed to find a fabulous illustrated report from Bere Island in 1824.

    Bere Island in Bantry Bay with a review of its effective powers as a Fortfied Place. Written by Lt Alexander Alcock, Royal Artillery, 1824.
    I also found a record of Baptisms going back to 1795 including military personnel but unfortunately no sign of Walter. I will check with Kew to see what I can find on the HMS Donegal.
    I will keep on trying, eventually something will show up.
    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭jos28


    A very kind Boardsie found this for me on Ancestry (Thanks Dido ;))
    Does anyone know what the comments under Observations refer to. It says Birmingham opposite Walter's name, he hardly sailed from there so does that mean he was from Birmingham ??


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Very hard to know - looking at other comments, some have a place, some have a date, some have the name of a ship. you could try posting in a military or navy forum on Rootschat to find someone who might be more familiar with these types of records?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭jos28


    I will give that a go Pinky, cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭Brennans Row


    I find the column “reference to application” could be a useful lead to follow up.

    The number S/424 seems to be an index of some sort and it might appear elsewhere in that book?

    Could “S” mean ship’s book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,220 ✭✭✭jos28


    I find the column “reference to application” could be a useful lead to follow up.

    The number S/424 seems to be an index of some sort and it might appear elsewhere in that book?

    Could “S” mean ship’s book?

    You are right, it has to be a reference of some sort. I have stuck it up on Rootschat and hopefully someone might be able to decipher it. I have also emailed it to a military researcher that I used in the past. So here's hoping....


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