Farm direction for sheep/beef/cereals/pigs etc

bob charles

With all the talk of expansion in Dairy what are all the other sectors doing with regards to farm expansion/contraction. Food Harvest 2020 is getting closer and it projects rises in output beef 40%, Pigs 50%, I cant find the targets for sheep, cereal and everything else :rolleyes:. So excluding Dairying what are you guys doing

moy83

Im aiming to take over the home farm and its either try and run a tight suckler ship or buying whats cheap and selling whenever there is a pound to be made on them .
A bit of contracting , maybe reseeding might help to boost the coffers .
If alot of sucklers are getting out and buying fr cattle , think will the price of continental cattle go up a bit over the next few years ?

Sharpshooter82

moy83 wrote: »

If alot of sucklers are getting out and buying fr cattle , think will the price of continental cattle go up a bit over the next few years ?

Seems this could be the way of the future

Milked out

Is there a market for extra production in these sectors?? There was no real constraint to expansion as any extra output could be sold, bar the enterprises profitability, unlike the dairy side which was held by quotas or was there??. Unless there is a major industry push, or possibly more people staying on the land until the employment situation changes, what's going to change in these areas??

bob charles

No money in these sectors and over 60% of farms expanding so far, something dont add up

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

No money in these sectors and over 60% of farms expanding so far, something dont add up

Probably a reflection of the farmer demography on here though to be fair Bob.

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

Probably a reflection of the farmer demography on here though to be fair Bob.

Yeah I know that but didnt think 60% on here would be thinking about producing more

Sharpshooter82

well i increased my head a little this year but am at my limit i think unless i can get more land somewhere

Conmaicne Mara

While I am in this AEOS plan, and while the commonages continue to be "dithered" over by the PTB, I am uncertain how my farm will fare.

AEOS cannot even be amended, to change figures on green land, never mind commonage, which is a huge flaw of the scheme.

Friday may or may not shed some light on the direction my sector will be getting pushed in. Based on past experience I am not confident of a forward thinking, enlightened programme being put in place.

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

Yeah I know that but didnt think 60% on here would be thinking about producing more

I think we need another poll based on this one to see the level of expansion for the 60% who voted yes.

My thoughts are most are expanding by less than 33% unless more land is coming into the equation.

reilig

In the short term, we are hoping to improve the quality of what we have and increase weights going out the gate. Also trying to reduce costs.

In the medium term we are in talks with a relation over purchasing more land when they retire in the coming years.

In the long term we'd like to see one of us giving up off farm job in order to work the farm and to be at home for kids etc.

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

I think we need another poll based on this one to see the level of expansion for the 60% who voted yes.

My thoughts are most are expanding by less than 33% unless more land is coming into the equation.

you should be in politics with your demands of a report into a poll:rolleyes:

Timmaay

I think the 2020 harvest is touting a 10% increase in tillage. Where that's coming from I don't know, around the south east at least, all the dairy expansion seems to be at the expense of tillage.

jersey101

Timmaay wrote: »

I think the 2020 harvest is touting a 10% increase in tillage. Where that's coming from I don't know, around the south east at least, all the dairy expansion seems to be at the expense of tillage.

i say in 5 years around 500 acres around my area that were in tillage will be in grass

Timmaay

All rented by you Jersey, milking 600cows? (sorry Bob, I think you didn't want to here from us dairy lads in this thread at all!)

jersey101

Timmaay wrote: »

All rented by you Jersey, milking 600cows? (sorry Bob, I think you didn't want to here from us dairy lads in this thread at all!)

haha i wish
alot of lads giving up on tillage

Sharpshooter82

jersey101 wrote: »

haha i wish
alot of lads giving up on tillage

That is till this powerplant in rhode startslooking for straw to burn

jersey101

Sharpshooter82 wrote: »

That is till this powerplant in rhode startslooking for straw to burn

there not getting it back:) no way haha

Sharpshooter82

jersey101 wrote: »

there not getting it back:) no way haha

be like arthur guinness a 999 year lease.....forward thinking

Timmaay

Straw not largely a byproduct of tillage? Its the rocketing fertilizer and diesel costs, combined with poor weather thats killing tillage here in my view, a more stable outlet for your straw isn't going to change that.

delaval

I'm getting into sucklers. With so many getting into my game it's time to fold the stall and move on.

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

you should be in politics with your demands of a report into a poll:rolleyes:

The country would definitiely be screwed then!

Similar expected increases in forestry over the next few years as was planned for tillage. All are way off the mark.