Price of Friesian bull calves/ yearlings

Milked out

What price would one expect for 9 to 12 month old Friesian bull calves, Strongest half avg 330 kgs I think smallest being 280 kgs, I think, weights not my strong point

whelan1

200-250? they are a desperate trade, saw march born fr bulls from 120-150 a couple of weeks ago

td5man

What are new born fr bull calves making

dzer2

td5man wrote: »

What are new born fr bull calves making

50 to 80 euros depending on size have you many.

RaggyDays

Milked out wrote: »

What price would one expect for 9 to 12 month old Friesian bull calves, Strongest half avg 330 kgs I think smallest being 280 kgs, I think, weights not my strong point

A bit over a euro a kilo. If they are good Bf then €400 max

td5man

dzer2 wrote: »

50 to 80 euros depending on size have you many.

2 so far one that was born yesterday must weigh 100kilos

whelan1

td5man wrote: »

2 so far one that was born yesterday must weigh 100kilos

had a whopper too, 85 was the best i could do at 10 days old... no market for them

dzer2

Must get one of ye to gather the lot of them up and I will pop up and take them off your hands. As I need 10 to 12 a month

whelan1

dzer2 wrote: »

Must get one of ye to gather the lot of them up and I will pop up and take them off your hands. As I need 10 to 12 a month

ah if i had a euro for every person that told me that i'd be rich now:o:o

dzer2

whelan1 wrote: »

ah if i had a euro for every person that told me that i'd be rich now:o:o

Ask Jersey.

jersey101

dzer2 wrote: »

Ask Jersey.

have one here for ye two cows due tomorrow so ill see what they bring

dzer2

I will be down on the 2nd as they killed this week

jersey101

No bother

6480

wicklow cattle sompany are starting to collect again locally , as soon as i hear prices i ll get them up

jersey101

6480 wrote: »

wicklow cattle sompany are starting to collect again locally , as soon as i hear prices i ll get them up

he was down with me yesterday. Said they had 65 bother heifers goin off to russia in the yard on wednesday

Sam Kade

A friesian bull calf for €50 now will cost the bones of €200 incl purchase price by March and will barely be 200kg by then That is before labour etc. you'd be better off drinking the €50 now:)

whelan1

Sam Kade wrote: »

A friesian bull calf for €50 now will cost the bones of €200 incl purchase price by March and will barely be 200kg by then That is before labour etc. you'd be better off drinking the €50 now:)

thats my plan:D holsteiny calves lucky to make 30 euro.... what would they be worth and how much would they cost ya, plus the fact they could die too. Unless they are drinking over quota milk i suppose

Farmer Pudsey

There was a discussion about fresian cattle in our discussion group yesterday. The opinion was that at present with the factory pricing structure it is hard to make money out of same. Even if you but so called BF cattle most still go over 30 months at killing even if they qualify for bonus. You need to carry the good one to over 700kgLW before the have a chance of grading O=. Working off the base price on average you will be 24cent below and not qualify for bonus.

There is a lot of light Friesian stores around anyway. They seem to be alot less that 350kgs at 18 months. It is unlikly that these will be able to be ready for slaughter in 2014 so you will be facing two winters or feeding to finish during winter 2014/15.

If you slaughter them at 360DW and recieve a price of 3.75/kg(a base of 4Euro/KG) they will make 1350. If included in that price is a finishing period that even requires 100kgs gain(100days feeding) this will cost in excess of 300 euro in feed alone. It leaves the possible margin on these cattle very small if not non existant.

keep going

The other day abuddy of mine sent abunch of fr and jersey cross 18 to 20 month bulls to the factory and he showed me the returns.the thing is these cattle all got same treatment all the way up but when they were killed jerset crosses averaged the same as the fr yet the fr bulls cost him 120e to buy but jerseys only cost him 20.

bbam

keep going wrote: »

The other day abuddy of mine sent abunch of fr and jersey cross 18 to 20 month bulls to the factory and he showed me the returns.the thing is these cattle all got same treatment all the way up but when they were killed jerset crosses averaged the same as the fr yet the fr bulls cost him 120e to buy but jerseys only cost him 20.

Bigger question is did either make a few bob.
That's all that matters at the end of the day.

Milked out

Disappointing prices considering I had to keep these autumn calves in on mainly concentrates and straw till may due to no grass and fodder crisis, but we were all in the same boat there. I may vasectomise 2 or 3 for my own use and genomic test a few more, one or two with parent avg ebi's to 290. Will have to confirm parentage alrite if selling as potential stock bulls, they would be ideal for some lads to use as mop up bulls and still get em off before 30 months

Farmer Pudsey

Milked out wrote: »

Disappointing prices considering I had to keep these autumn calves in on mainly concentrates and straw till may due to no grass and fodder crisis, but we were all in the same boat there. I may vasectomise 2 or 3 for my own use and genomic test a few more, one or two with parent avg ebi's to 290. Will have to confirm parentage alrite if selling as potential stock bulls, they would be ideal for some lads to use as mop up bulls and still get em off before 30 months

30 month bull game is gone all have to be under 24 months. This makes the finishing of fresians very hard. Factorys may take 24-30 month bulls in may/june but it will depend on supply. Huge gamble now with this type of animal price of these bulls is 30-40 cent below base if under 24 months and stock bull price if factory's will not take above 24 this is 2.8/kg or less.

dzer2

These last posts just goes to show what I have being saying all along that anything over 80 euro for what is effectively waste on a dairy farm is madness and spending a day in the mark selling or buying them is just adding to the cost.

bob charles

Fr cattle have a low FCE, poor killout and much longer feeders. There is a reason the price is what it is. There arent that many snowmen in the beef business

rancher

dzer2 wrote: »

These last posts just goes to show what I have being saying all along that anything over 80 euro for what is effectively waste on a dairy farm is madness and spending a day in the mark selling or buying them is just adding to the cost.

Was at a meeting lately where a dairy farmer said that farmers should be getting money along with Friesian bull calves for taking them off sellers hands

Sam Kade

rancher wrote: »

Was at a meeting lately where a dairy farmer said that farmers should be getting money along with Friesian bull calves for taking them off sellers hands

Could you pm me his name, I could take a few fr bull calves off his hands next spring if he pays me accordingly