Nearest the PIN - - Hole in 1

Seve OB

Now this is just theoretical, but last week, we played in charity fundraiser team event Scramble. On the 18th, par 3 they had a nearest the PIN. We were going OK, not likely to win, but close enough.

So I say, the only thing we can win now is the Nearest the PIN. Another guy says, we need a hole in 1 to compete for the main prize, and he would happily sacrifice the NTP prize.

WTF? Eh surely if you score a hole in 1, you ain't going to be beaten for the NTP prize. But 2 of my team mates insisted that a hole in 1 can't win NTP. One of them tried to insist that because the ball is already in the hole it can't possibly be near the hole!

As it happened i stuck it to about 10ft (was still beaten) and we got 3. We came 5th and a 1 would of got us 4th!

Paddy1234

stevieob wrote: »

Now this is just theoretical, but last week, we played in charity fundraiser team event Scramble. On the 18th, par 3 they had a nearest the PIN. We were going OK, not likely to win, but close enough.

So I say, the only thing we can win now is the Nearest the PIN. Another guy says, we need a hole in 1 to compete for the main prize, and he would happily sacrifice the NTP prize.

WTF? Eh surely if you score a hole in 1, you ain't going to be beaten for the NTP prize. But 2 of my team mates insisted that a hole in 1 can't win NTP. One of them tried to insist that because the ball is already in the hole it can't possibly be near the hole!

As it happened i stuck it to about 10ft (was still beaten) and we got 3. We came 5th and a 1 would of got us 4th!

Of course hole in 1 is nearest the pin. You can't get nearer the pin than touching it!

PARlance

I always err on the side of caution and miss the hole in 1.

Think those lads were pulling your leg Stevie

Almaviva

Paddy1234 wrote: »

Of course hole in 1 is nearest the pin. You can't get nearer the pin than touching it!

No way is it nearest the flag !!!
The ball is 'nowhere' for that hole - the hole is finished as soon as the ball is stationary in the hole. The ball goes from 'moving' to 'hole finished' and is never 'near' the flag at all.
aj's policy is the smart one.

Paddy1234

Almaviva wrote: »

No way is it nearest the flag !!!
The ball is 'nowhere' for that hole - the hole is finished as soon as the ball is stationary in the hole. The ball goes from 'moving' to 'hole finished' and is never 'near' the flag at all.
aj's policy is the smart one.

Was Almaviva one of your mates Stevie?

mightymal

Had a friend tell me about a charity event he played in while living in Samoa. They had a closest to the pin prize on a par 3. One guy got a hole in one but they would not give him the closest to the pin because his ball went in the hole. Heard he was really Pi**ed.

Seve OB

ajcurry123 wrote: »

I always err on the side of caution and miss the hole in 1.

Think those lads were pulling your leg Stevie

We do have a joke together alright but they were deadly serious on this one.

They were fully sure this was the case so I just thought I'd throw it out there to see if anyone else had heard of it

Freemount09

Hey OP - were those guys you were playing with from Samoa ??

FixdePitchmark

Ok, this is a joke.

But mathematically nearest the pin is asymptotic.

Your not near the pin if in hole , you are at pin.

So it is not possible to be near something you are at.

(Punch to my head)

Mister Sifter

It's pretty ****ing simple really - if you got a hole in one, you'd win the nearest to the pin prize.

slave1

In our society there is a rule for €127 for a hole in one and a hole in one is excluded from nearest the pin, but in all honesty if I got a hole in one I couldn't give a rat's arse about not winning a nearest the pin or any other prize.

FixdePitchmark

slave1 wrote: »

In our society there is a rule for €127 for a hole in one and a hole in one is excluded from nearest the pin, but in all honesty if I got a hole in one I couldn't give a rat's arse about not winning a nearest the pin or any other prize.

So there is logic in the madness sometimes.

DeanAustin

Christ talk about over-complicating something for the sake of being a smart arse.

A hole in one wins it.

FixdePitchmark

DeanAustin wrote: »

Christ talk about over-complicating something for the sake of being a smart arse.

A hole in one wins it.

clearly it doesnt in all examples above.

Im not agreeing , but it is a made up thing, so is open to all sorts of crazy ideas.

DeanAustin

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

clearly it doesnt in all examples above.

Im not agreeing , but it is a made up thing, so is open to all sorts of crazy ideas.

Ah come on, it's to reward the best tee shot on a par three. Not to reward the best shot that isn't a hole in one. That's the only intention I've ever seen behind it.

Unfortunately, some people just love to look clever and argue for the sake of it and that's why you get these "crazy ideas".

Mister Sifter

slave1 wrote: »

In our society there is a rule for €127 for a hole in one and a hole in one is excluded from nearest the pin, but in all honesty if I got a hole in one I couldn't give a rat's arse about not winning a nearest the pin or any other prize.

Society golf ... say no more.

FixdePitchmark

DeanAustin wrote: »

Ah come on, it's to reward the best tee shot on a par three. Not to reward the best shot that isn't a hole in one. That's the only intention I've ever seen behind it.

Unfortunately, some people just love to look clever and argue for the sake of it and that's why you get these "crazy ideas".

Agree, when you are running a society make it as simple as possible.
Easier for future captains.

But societies have all sort of things that come in as they are self created.

Is a bit too clever . But not.

blackwhite

Seeing as nearest the pin doesn't have any standing in the rules, then surely it just comes down to whoever is running the competition.

TBH, I can see how societies might have rules like this cropping up, but for most places running classics or opens, or for corporate days I'd say the first time they will even consider it will be when a hole in one happens.

ssbob

Don't you have to be "on" the green for CTP not "in" the green:D

You have got hilarious friends!

tobyjensen

If there's a prize involved in some type of competition I could just imagine the uproar if the judges gave it to the guy whose ball was lying on the lip of the hole instead of in it. The crowd would rip them apart.

gorfield

That's like saying oh you can't win longest drive coz you drove the green.... Ridiculous thread

ForeRight

This thread just confirms what I already knew....


There are some amount of idiots playing the game

Almaviva

gorfield wrote: »

That's like saying oh you can't win longest drive coz you drove the green.... Ridiculous thread

I dont follow the analogy here. The ball is still in play. If its longest, it longest. No mystery about that one that I can see. Please explain.

GreeBo

gorfield wrote: »

That's like saying oh you can't win longest drive coz you drove the green.... Ridiculous thread

Longest drive has to be on the fairway....is the green fairway?

Almaviva

GreeBo wrote: »

Longest drive has to be on the fairway....is the green fairway?

Fair enough yes. Hitting the green rules you out of longest drive. Happens all the time.

charlieIRL

In my few brief years of golf I've yet to see a longest drive hole on a par 4.

Benny Cake

charlieIRL wrote: »

In my few brief years of golf I've yet to see a longest drive hole on a par 4.

For real? Quite common IMO...

GreeBo

charlieIRL wrote: »

In my few brief years of golf I've yet to see a longest drive hole on a par 4.

I have but its typically one where reaching the green isnt an option!

charlieIRL

Benny Cake wrote: »

For real? Quite common IMO...

Yupp. Always been on a par 5.

Ben1977

Well we will change that for you this weekend, think some of the lads have suggested the 18th in palmerstown

charlieIRL

Ben1977 wrote: »

Well we will change that for you this weekend, think some of the lads have suggested the 18th in palmerstown

Actually Ben, I stand corrected......we had longest drive there last year!!!