Any value in car with bad engine.

Ken Tucky

Hi,

Got bad news last week that my 04 Megane has worn cam/cams due to the oil not getting to the heads!! Plenty of oil in the engine, was serviced end of July. Developed a noise and is now off the road.

Does anybody know if there is any value in trading it in against another car. I know all 2nd hand dealers are different and I am going to be honest with them.

Its a nightmare as it was a perfectly good car 2 weeks ago which I was happy driving in and out of work in. Now it seems it might be worthless and I've a healthy portion of my car tax still on it.

Don't really want the pain of getting a 2nd hand engine and then having problems there too. F**k.

Any ideas if there is any worth in it?

Alanstrainor

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the car wouldn't have been worth much when it was running. Now I'd say its scrap really. Is it not running at all?

discombobulate

If its scrapped be aware that you can claim back tax paid for future months. Think you need a cert of destruction

Ken Tucky

Yeah but I would have to pay to scrap it. Wouldn't be worth it. I know there wasn't much value, piss poor cars but it only had 76.000 on the clock. New tyres and all pads and discs done recently. Discs on the back integrate the bearing, probably worth more than the car now hehe. Actually could cry.

Do you think I could pull 500euro back for it or should I just scrap it now.

discombobulate

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Yeah but I would have to pay to scrap it. Wouldn't be worth it. I know there wasn't much value, piss poor cars but it only had 76.000 on the clock. New tyres and all pads and discs done recently. Discs on the back integrate the bearing, probably worth more than the car now hehe. Actually could cry.

Do you think I could pull 500euro back for it or should I just scrap it now.

I'd say you'd get a few quid rather than have to pay for it to be scrapped. Most places pay by the tonne I think unless they were interested in breaking it. No harm putting it up on Done Deal and seeing if you get any offers either.

deandean

You have it off the road 'cos it's making a noise?

Sod that, keep driving it. You might get years from it still!

Ken Tucky

Sound advice so. Just a head wreck to try find another cheap car which does not turn into a money pit. Took a chance on the Megane and it actually worked out well until this happened.

Ken Tucky

deandean wrote: »

You have it off the road 'cos it's making a noise?

Sod that, keep driving it. You might get years from it still!

Had a lad take it apart and there is all sorts of scoring on the caps, but your right. If its worthless now and driving then I may as well keep on driving it.:D

Ronnie Beck

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Had a lad take it apart and there is all sorts of scoring on the caps, but your right. If its worthless now and driving then I may as well keep on driving it.:D

Did he say why the oil stopped getting to the head?

Ken Tucky

Looks like the oil pump might have been weak, or the strainer?? was a wee bit blocked. It was grand driving it to work, on the way home it was a different story. It hardly done 7000 a year, I really only drove to and from work and used her car for everything else.

delthedriver

If the car is safe to drive, keep driving it. The car was serviced a few months ago, so apart from a noisy cam, there is little else wrong with it?
Turn up the radio, the sound of George Hook should drown out the noise!
If it eventually packs up, then have a rethink. A car with 76k miles I would consider relatively low mileage:)

delthedriver

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Looks like the oil pump might have been weak, or the strainer?? was a wee bit blocked. It was grand driving it to work, on the way home it was a different story. It hardly done 7000 a year, I really only drove to and from work and used her car for everything else.

A new oil filter to replace the old strainer may help. not an expensive job.

Ken Tucky

Thanks lads, im going to give it a go. Not in a position to be buying now as I've had a killer year with money so hopefully it'll get me into the new year.

Ronnie Beck

A bit late now but it'ss recomended to use 5w40 renault oil(RN700 spec from memory) on these. Most of them run about on any old 10w40. Did he not at least take off the sump and see if the pickups blocked. It's won't last pissing time with that blocked.

tossy

If you are going to drive it on you have to find out why the oil wasn't reaching the cams,is the oil pump knackered? Blockage? Fix that problem and you could get longer than you think.

Also if the cams are worn then i would suggest shortening the intervals between oil changes.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Yeah but I would have to pay to scrap it. Wouldn't be worth it. I know there wasn't much value, piss poor cars but it only had 76.000 on the clock. New tyres and all pads and discs done recently. Discs on the back integrate the bearing, probably worth more than the car now hehe. Actually could cry.

Do you think I could pull 500euro back for it or should I just scrap it now.

No you don't. A scrap yard willgivevyou money for it. If the car is in otherwise good condition then you should get 300-400 for it. Ring around a few breakers yards and ask for prices.

Jesus.

Ken Tucky wrote: »

Do you think I could pull 500euro back for it or should I just scrap it now.

Ah you'll pull about 5 back for it in a trade in I'd say. I got that much for a 99 Almera a couple of months ago when getting another auld yoke.

Keep driving her though until she falls apart. You'll still get your few quid for scrap when trading her in.

Wheres My ForkandKnife

Jesus. wrote: »

Ah you'll pull about 5 back for it in a trade in I'd say. I got that much for a 99 Almera a couple of months ago when getting another auld yoke.

Keep driving her though until she falls apart. You'll still get your few quid for scrap when trading her in.

Jesus wept:D

Would that be the same €500 you would pull back for buying at a straight sale price meaning, in reality, you get absolutly nothing for the car!

Jesus.

Wheres My ForkandKnife wrote: »

Jesus wept:D

Would that be the same €500 you would pull back for buying at a straight sale price meaning, in reality, you get absolutly nothing for the car!

Eh?

pred racer

Jesus. wrote: »

Eh?

He's saying you probably would have paid less on a straight, cash deal with no trade in. And he's probably right;)

Jesus.

pred racer wrote: »

He's saying you probably would have paid less on a straight, cash deal with no trade in. And he's probably right;)

Nope. Best I could get him down to was 1900 cash but got it for 1450 with the scrap.

pickled101

keep the oil topped up fairly high on the dip stick and drive fast around corners :-)

Wheres My ForkandKnife

Jesus. wrote: »

Nope. Best I could get him down to was 1900 cash but got it for 1450 with the scrap.

That says more about you negotiating skills or the deal itself. If you car wasn't worth €500 to begin with why would a dealer give you €500 on a trade in. Now he has to make money on the car he sold you and the trade in!

I would say he knocked €500 of the price of the car because that was his bottom line and then he was left with your 99 almera which was really worth nothing but even if he took €100 for scrap it was €100 pure profit.

Jesus.

Wheres My ForkandKnife wrote: »

That says more about you negotiating skills or the deal itself.

Really? And you know all about my negotiating skills having never met me and not being there when I did the deal!!!

If you car wasn't worth €500 to begin with why would a dealer give you €500 on a trade in.

Who said it wasn't worth 500?

Now he has to make money on the car he sold you and the trade in!

What???!!!

I would say he knocked €500 of the price of the car because that was his bottom line and then he was left with your 99 almera which was really worth nothing but even if he took €100 for scrap it was €100 pure profit.

You clearly know it all so of course you must be right.

Any other deals that you were never at with people you never met that you'd like to opine on, oh wise one?

Wheres My ForkandKnife

Jesus. wrote: »

Ah you'll pull about 5 back for it in a trade in I'd say. I got that much for a 99 Almera a couple of months ago when getting another auld yoke.

Keep driving her though until she falls apart. You'll still get your few quid for scrap when trading her in.

Jesus. wrote: »

Really? And you know all about my negotiating skills having never met me and not being there when I did the deal!!!



Who said it wasn't worth 500?



What???!!!



You clearly know it all so of course you must be right.

Any other deals that you were never at with people you never met that you'd like to opine on, oh wise one?

Jesus. wrote: »

Nope. Best I could get him down to was 1900 cash but got it for 1450 with the scrap.

Who said it wasn't worth €500? You did Jesus.

You traded in a scrap car and got €450 for the price if the new car.

Do you not understand that he now has to make money from the car you traded in! If the trade in value of €450 was actually costing the dealer €450 and he then went on to sell this car for the same €450 he wouldn't be in business for very long. I don't know how much simpler I can explain this.

And as for your comment, "oh wise one", I never considered myself wise but after reading this I feel wiser than some. Thanks for that.

Your post implies that you can walk into any dealer, trade in any old scrap car and walk out with a new car €500 cheaper than if you went in without a trade in.

If you believe this good luck to you. They say ignorance is bliss.

If I were selling my car and you were interested in buying it I will give you €3000 trade in on any car you bring me as a trade in, even if it has no engine,wheels or doors. Any I will make sure you are sitting down when I tell you the price of my car.

Do you think you would walk out the door €3000 better off?