Bullying in streets

whellman1030

Last week on a night a guy just comes to me bullying me and trying to provoke a fight.

I just run away and the guy picked the next one, which fought with him.

Then friends from both sides came and there were 6 people fighting, a big crowd watching, one of them already on the floor K.O.

It just affected me because it could be me another day if I'm not humble enough to back down.

In those situations I obviously have no time to grab my phone and call the gards.

So what's your advice in those situations, because I don't want to go home bleeding like those guys, and also it's a very bad feeling having to back down...

kub

whellman1030 wrote: »

Last week on a night a guy just comes to me bullying me and trying to provoke a fight.

I just run away and the guy picked the next one, which fought with him.

Then friends from both sides came and there were 6 people fighting, a big crowd watching, one of them already on the floor K.O.

It just affected me because it could be me another day if I'm not humble enough to back down.

In those situations I obviously have no time to grab my phone and call the gards.

So what's your advice in those situations, because I don't want to go home bleeding like those guys, and also it's a very bad feeling having to back down...

You did the right thing walking away from that situation, you could very well be in hospital now with a stab wound or worse elsewhere.
Well done on having the sense to get away from the situation.

Qualitymark

Up to the pubs: they shouldn't be all letting people out on to the street at the same time. And up to the council; blue-light streetlighting outside pubs has been demonstrated to make fighting unlikely.

Paulzx

Qualitymark wrote: »

Up to the pubs: they shouldn't be all letting people out on to the street at the same time. And up to the council; blue-light streetlighting outside pubs has been demonstrated to make fighting unlikely.

Have you a theory on how a Public House can stop private individuals leaving whenever they want.

It's also the councils fault for fighting on the streets as they haven't changed all the street lamps to blue?

Interesting theories.

How about people stop behaving like ar**holes/animals?

Qualitymark

Paulzx, the problem isn't with individuals leaving, it's with pubs closing and a big group of drunks flooding out on to the streets. If a bunch of pubs close at the same time, this can end in fights.

http://www.popcenter.org/problems/assaultsinbars/3

http://www.sirc.org/publik/ddbook7.html

And the blue light; can't put my hand on it right now, but a couple of years ago a study (Australian? English?) found that having blue rather than white or orange street lights calmed pub crowds and reduced the number of fights.

As for people stopping acting like animals, I'm all for that. Got any tips?

whellman1030

Well I had the good sense, but If someday a guy comes to me and starts kicking me (which didn't happened) I may not be "intelligent" enough to back down!!!

Many people just start saying "Go to martial arts". But I say if the guy has a naif or a gun forget your martial arts and all the time you invested on that.

I heard that are some Teasers or Rubber Bullet Guns you can buy, but I don't know if they are legal.

Mikros

whellman1030 wrote: »

I heard that are some Teasers or Rubber Bullet Guns you can buy, but I don't know if they are legal.

They are not legal.

Carrying any weapon is likely to leave you at greater risk anyway. Straight away you escalate any situation meaning other weapons are more likely to be produced. You also run the risk of your weapon being taken off you and used against you.

Avoid getting into the situation in the first place. Be aware of your surroundings and the people about you. If you can't avoid it try and walk or run away. Your pride wont count for much if you wind up in hospital or worse.

whellman1030

whellman1030 wrote: »

Last week on a night a guy just comes to me bullying me and trying to provoke a fight.

I just run away and the guy picked the next one, which fought with him.

You did exactly the correct thing. Maybe phone the police if it happens again, especially as you saw they ended up finding the fight they wanted. Also, if you witnessed the assault you should come forward as a witness. Somebody getting knocked out is a serious issue.

whellman1030

foreign wrote: »

You did exactly the correct thing. Maybe phone the police if it happens again, especially as you saw they ended up finding the fight they wanted. Also, if you witnessed the assault you should come forward as a witness. Somebody getting knocked out is a serious issue.

The thing is that no one called the police and the fight lasted 5 minutes.

If everyone is scared to be the rat (snitch) I won't be the witness and get the change of having a revenge from their part.

bravestar

whellman1030 wrote: »

The thing is that no one called the police and the fight lasted 5 minutes.

If everyone is scared to be the rat (snitch) I won't be the witness and get the change of having a revenge from their part.

Your not being a rat your calling the gardai and possibly saving someone's life. You don't need to be a witness as the person who is injured is or the offenders would be arrested for public order offences, not requiring any follow through from you.

You don't seem to like the answers your getting here and if its a pat on the head and "go buy yourself a taser" your looking for then you may be in the wrong place.

whellman1030

whellman1030 wrote: »

The thing is that no one called the police and the fight lasted 5 minutes.

If everyone is scared to be the rat (snitch) I won't be the witness and get the change of having a revenge from their part.

And what if the fight developed to the point where they are dancing on the KO'd fellas head? Would you still feel good about not being a 'rat'?

whellman1030

I have more to do than replying to all of you with proper answers....

bravestar

whellman1030 wrote: »

I have more to do than replying to all of you with proper answers....

Better get on with it so.

whellman1030

whellman1030 wrote: »

I have more to do than replying to all of you with proper answers....

Yeah, head along there. You don't want to be called a rat talking to the police on here.

mathepac

whellman1030 wrote: »

.... So what's your advice in those situations, ...

whellman1030 wrote: »

I have more to do than replying to all of you with proper answers....

My advice is not to start any more threads looking for advice. Posters here may discover they have more to do than replying to you with answers.

Say goodnight Dick.

Goodnight Dick.

Paulzx

whellman1030 wrote: »

I have more to do than replying to all of you with proper answers....

You initiated the thread.
You requested advice from other posters.

Then when you are asked for more information you decide to have a switch on the people who have replied to you.

How do you expect advice when you get thick at someone trying to help you.

If you went into a clothes shop to buy a suit would you have a hissy fit when the sales assistant asked you your waist size because you have "more to do than replying"

Some people baffle me

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/opinion/sunday/a-self-defined-by-place.html?_r=0

Consider another experiment, conducted in 2000. A team of contractors in Glasgow, Scotland, installed a series of blue lights in prominent locations citywide. The lights were designed to make unsightly districts of the city more attractive, but after a few months the city’s crime statisticians noticed a striking trend: crime rates declined in the locations that were bathed in blue.

The lights, which mimicked those atop police cars, seemed to imply that the police were watching. In 2005, police in Nara Prefecture, Japan, installed blue lights at crime hot spots and got a similar result: the overall crime rate fell. When others tried the approach, they found that littering and suicide attempts also declined beneath the blue glow.

That's mad

mathepac

bluewolf wrote: »

... That's mad

Well you've been doing it since Oct 2003.

whellman1030

mathepac wrote: »

My advice is not to start any more threads looking for advice. Posters here may discover they have more to do than replying to you with answers.

Say goodnight Dick.

Goodnight Dick.

Do you want to start punching people now or some boxing bags??? I think what you need, lol:D:D:D:D:D

whellman1030

Paulzx wrote: »

You initiated the thread.
You requested advice from other posters.

Then when you are asked for more information you decide to have a switch on the people who have replied to you.

How do you expect advice when you get thick at someone trying to help you.

If you went into a clothes shop to buy a suit would you have a hissy fit when the sales assistant asked you your waist size because you have "more to do than replying"

Some people baffle me

What you really need is a girlfriend.....

Potential-Monke

bluewolf wrote: »

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/opinion/sunday/a-self-defined-by-place.html?_r=0



That's mad

I'm not even going to ask, i'm just going down to change the lights on the hotspots here without telling anyone!

Paulzx

whellman1030 wrote: »

What you really need is a girlfriend.....

*sigh*.....................we really need to set up a creche for the children around here

Turner

The OP has received some good advice at the start of the thread...

Thread closed.