Given the Edward Snowden Revelations Should UCD email revert to the Old System?

UCDCritic

Does UCD have a duty to protect our information?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM

Given gmail is an open door to spying agencies like the NSA and others around Europe shouldn't UCD take this on board and revert back to the old email system we had which was run by UCD and kept private.

Aren't there questions the UCD authorities need to answer about this?

Perhaps one of the papers should investigate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM0YWRYaB_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id7xS-1xSYk

ironclaw

UCDCritic wrote: »

Given gmail is an open door to spying agencies like the NSA and others around Europe shouldn't UCD take this on board and revert back to the old email system we had which was run by UCD and kept private.

Theres no such thing as privacy on the internet. Even if we went back to the old system, who said it was private? Or secure? It wasn't and never will be. Everything you do, say and click on the internet can be logged and tracked. Thats the simple truth. The means and methods exist to do it, and your kidding yourself if you believe you can 'live' anonymously no the net. If you want privacy, disconnect absolutely every single device you own that transmits or recieves data. Privacy is over, just accept it.

And comparing UCD's privacy responsibility / IT dept. to the might of Google and the NSA is laughable.

Fad

UCDCritic wrote: »

Does UCD have a duty to protect our information?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yB3n9fu-rM

Given gmail is an open door to spying agencies like the NSA and others around Europe shouldn't UCD take this on board and revert back to the old email system we had which was run by UCD and kept private.

Aren't there questions the UCD authorities need to answer about this?

Perhaps one of the papers should investigate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM0YWRYaB_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id7xS-1xSYk

I dunno, it could be a very boring article and I doubt you'd be okay with that.

The old system was terrible and probably as open to intrusion as gmail.

Maldesu

UCDCritic wrote: »

Given gmail is an open door to spying agencies like the NSA and others around Europe shouldn't UCD take this on board and revert back to the old email system we had which was run by UCD and kept private.

Aren't there questions the UCD authorities need to answer about this?

HOLY SHMOKES! The NSA are going to find out I emailed the lecture slides to students who skipped their classes. I'm marked for life now. No going stateside for me! Or for them!

Kiltennel

UCD email has a set of rules you must adhere to if you're using it. If the content you're exchanging is something the NSA would want to pick up on, it's quite likely you're also breaking the UCD terms of use too.

UCDCritic

Maldesu wrote: »

HOLY SHMOKES! The NSA are going to find out I emailed the lecture slides to students who skipped their classes. I'm marked for life now. No going stateside for me! Or for them!

One of the reasons the U.S.A has become so rich and powerful is due to Industrial Espionage. There have been many examples where a company in Europe was working on new technology and innovation only to find that when they were ready to go to market another company in the U.S.A suddenly appears with the same product.

Then the U.S.A. would interfere with the European companies ability to sell their product in the U.S.A

Now perhaps deep down you believe your work is meaningless and worthless so you couldn't care less about who knows about it, but for other people it's a real concern.

Think about all the research and innovation going on in UCD, you don't think that's important to protect?

Privacy is possible on the internet, it's called encryption.

Universities used to such a beehive of activism, now students couldn't care less that we are moving into a new era of oppression.

Does no one see the bigger picture here? Do you care?

ironclaw

UCDCritic wrote: »

Privacy is possible on the internet, it's called encryption.

Universities used to such a beehive of activism, now students couldn't care less that we are moving into a new era of oppression.

Does no one see the bigger picture here? Do you care?

Take off the tinfoil hat my friend and read. And I mean, seriously read about encryption and net systems. I've spent years in my spare time researching and practising it. The basis of any encryption is that it can be broken. And you have to always assume it can be broken. Think about what we didn't know about the NSA 6 months ago and now what we do know? We thought that it was 'probably not possible' and now it turns out it was. So imagine, what do you actually think they are capable of? Its beyond comprehension.

And even if your encrypted, theres enough padding in the packets themselves to trace a user etc etc. Privacy and security don't exist. They really don't.

If any idea if that good that its worth multimillions, you shouldn't be in UCD in the first place. You patent it and get into the private sector, and secure it as best you can. You certainly don't trust the Daelus Building to keep you safe.

This has nothing to do with UCD, its down to the individual and as rightly said, if your sharing info that the NSA or a Black Ops corporation would be interested in, then you have bigger problems that who hosts our email system.

Chet T16

UCDCritic wrote: »

Does no one see the bigger picture here? Do you care?

Whatever the big picture may be UCD is only a very small part of it. I'd be far more worried about the stuff i use thats not under UCDs control

UCDCritic

ironclaw wrote: »

Take off the tinfoil hat my friend and read. And I mean, seriously read about encryption and net systems. I've spent years in my spare time researching and practising it. The basis of any encryption is that it can be broken. And you have to always assume it can be broken. Think about what we didn't know about the NSA 6 months ago and now what we do know? We thought that it was 'probably not possible' and now it turns out it was. So imagine, what do you actually think they are capable of? Its beyond comprehension.

And even if your encrypted, theres enough padding in the packets themselves to trace a user etc etc. Privacy and security don't exist. They really don't.

If any idea if that good that its worth multimillions, you shouldn't be in UCD in the first place. You patent it and get into the private sector, and secure it as best you can. You certainly don't trust the Daelus Building to keep you safe.

This has nothing to do with UCD, its down to the individual and as rightly said, if your sharing info that the NSA or a Black Ops corporation would be interested in, then you have bigger problems that who hosts our email system.

With all due respect I'm not going to take advice from a novice.

Ok, you've tinkered with encryption as a hobbie, so what.

A lot of important and valuable start ups have in UCD.

ironclaw

UCDCritic wrote: »

With all due respect I'm not going to take advice from a novice.

Ok, you've tinkered with encryption as a hobbie, so what.

Thats a fairly big assumption. I have the certificates and I've sat the courses to prove otherwise. But I'm pretty sure your trolling at this stage.

A lot of important and valuable start ups have in UCD.

Agreed but nothing that I would consider a 'billion dollar, NSA worth stealing idea' when you contrast to the likes of MIT, Stanford, Berkley etc.

OP I just had a look at the threads you've started. I would recommend going to Coppers and getting laid. I'm talking properly laid, try to do some freaky stuff. Then perhaps get an exciting hobby, something like skydiving or zorbing. Then finish it all off by chugging a slush puppie. Make it an extra large one for that guaranteed brain freeze. Then come back to this thread and laugh off your previous opinions.

On a side note, I also have qualifications to discuss what you're talking about, but you're not making enough sense for me to care.

UCDCritic

ironclaw wrote: »

Thats a fairly big assumption. I have the certificates and I've sat the courses to prove otherwise. But I'm pretty sure your trolling at this stage.



Agreed but nothing that I would consider a 'billion dollar, NSA worth stealing idea' when you contrast to the likes of MIT, Stanford, Berkley etc.

It's not an assumption, you haven't stated otherwise. You did say "in your spare time"

It doesn't need to be billion dollar idea and the principal still applies.

UCDCritic

Deleted User wrote: »

OP I just had a look at the threads you've started. I would recommend going to Coppers and getting laid. I'm talking properly laid, try to do some freaky stuff. Then perhaps get an exciting hobby, something like skydiving or zorbing. Then finish it all off by chugging a slush puppie. Make it an extra large one for that guaranteed brain freeze. Then come back to this thread and laugh off your previous opinions.

On a side note, I also have qualifications to discuss what you're talking about, but you're not making enough sense for me to care.

You're just too cool Aristotle, why don't you do all that and then come back and laugh at the name you've chosen.

And if you don't care don't bother responding.

UCDCritic

ironclaw wrote: »

But I'm pretty sure your trolling at this stage.

Having an opinion isn't trolling