Aer lingus & terminal 2

burstbuckle

Getting a bit sick of this at the mo,use Aer Lingus about 3 or 4 times a month using different aircraft type & routes.Rougly 50% of the time we land at terminal 1 & have to hike to passport control at terminal 2. Yesterday we landed at a stand at pier D & were bussed over to T1 then had to walk the half mile missing my bus for the 3rd time in a month with an hour wait for the next one. I asked a member of staff would it be possible to go through security in T1 as we're already here & was told no. This happens with the regional service & also happened with a airbus from Spain i was on last month,

flanzer

As a matter of interest, what distances/times were your walks at your destinations/origins?

I only say that, as I've been to BOS/PHL/JFK/MCO in recent times and the walks were comparable to Dublin's longest transit walks.

There has to be an acceptance with modern airports that you can't get straight off the plane and into your car. The only way you can expand an airport, is build a Pier and by doing so you have to expect to do some walking

markpb

flanzer wrote: »

I only say that, as I've been to BOS/PHL/JFK/MCO in recent times and the walks were comparable to Dublin's longest transit walks.

Those airports are hardly a realistic comparison. The smallest of them handles over 50% more passengers and over 100% more aircraft movements than Dublin. A better comparison would be Washington IAD or Melbourne MEL but I haven't been to either of those so I can't compare them.

TomTom1963

Terminal 2 uses both pier 3 & 4 for aircraft arrivals. Pier 4 is in direct line with new terminal while pier 3 is the old pier B and a short walkway was constructed. It is about 5 minutes walk to passport control from pier 3 the same distance as if your plane was parked at furthest end of pier 4.

flanzer

markpb wrote: »

Those airports are hardly a realistic comparison. The smallest of them handles over 50% more passengers and over 100% more aircraft movements than Dublin. A better comparison would be Washington IAD or Melbourne MEL but I haven't been to either of those so I can't compare them.

Ok, take CPN, MAN or DUS - all with similar passenger figures, and all gone through an expansion and modernisation in the last 10 years. It's all to do with the luck of the draw on the day, if you've a long walk or not. It's one of those things that has to be accepted with a modern airport

spurious

Never understood why they don't charge a couple of euro per trip for people to travel on those little golf buggy things they use for elderly or less mobile people. They could have a few of them waiting at different points and those who were prepared to pay could use them. I thought Airport Genie would offer it but they don't.

burstbuckle

TomTom1963 wrote: »

Terminal 2 uses both pier 3 & 4 for aircraft arrivals. Pier 4 is in direct line with new terminal while pier 3 is the old pier B and a short walkway was constructed. It is about 5 minutes walk to passport control from pier 3 the same distance as if your plane was parked at furthest end of pier 4.

My point was the plane landed over at pier D whish is the opposite end of the airport to terminal 2.Then the bus drops you off at terminal 1. Why can't they open a door and let you leave the airport via terminal 1.Not an issue to most people but if you use the airport about 30 times a year it does become a pain in the hole

Shamrock231

burstbuckle wrote: »

My point was the plane landed over at pier D whish is the opposite end of the airport to terminal 2.Then the bus drops you off at terminal 1. Why can't they open a door and let you leave the airport via terminal 1.Not an issue to most people but if you use the airport about 30 times a year it does become a pain in the hole

Because it's not a bus and planes can't just stop in the middle of an active airport to let people out? Ideally what they should have done was have the bus drop you to T2 instead of T1, but your bags will be going to T2, so they can't let you clear immigration in T1 only to have everyone without their bags in T2.

lord lucan

burstbuckle wrote: »

Why can't they open a door and let you leave the airport via terminal 1.Not an issue to most people but if you use the airport about 30 times a year it does become a pain in the hole

The luggage from that flight will all be sent to T2 so the pax have to arrive into T2 with it,whether directly or through the VCC from Pier B. If they were to allow people with carry on only to exit through T1 i've no doubt there'd be many who forgot they've checked luggage and would take that option only to realise when they're outside that they have checked luggage to collect. Logistically it would be a nightmare for EI and i can see why they operate the system they do.

The Bishop Basher

burstbuckle wrote: »

My point was the plane landed over at pier D whish is the opposite end of the airport to terminal 2.Then the bus drops you off at terminal 1. Why can't they open a door and let you leave the airport via terminal 1.Not an issue to most people but if you use the airport about 30 times a year it does become a pain in the hole

Couldn't agree more. I fly a lot of the UK routes on a regular basis and I'm really sick of this happening. Check through security at T2 only to find you have to walk to T1 to the gate. Same on the way back, plane lands at T1 and we have to walk all the way back over to T2 to clear security. I accept that walking a fair distance is a fact of life in airports but this seems completely unnecessary and simply smacks of poor organisation. Why not just land and depart at T1 and be done with it !!!!

TomTom1963

Shamrock231 wrote: »

Because it's not a bus and planes can't just stop in the middle of an active airport to let people out? Ideally what they should have done was have the bus drop you to T2 instead of T1, but your bags will be going to T2, so they can't let you clear immigration in T1 only to have everyone without their bags in T2.

What an IDEA. put plane stops around the airports to that joker could get off where he likes. The parking position of his aircraft was big pier D but a remote stand used when the airport is at full capacity. Yes Dublin is a very busy international Airport ranked within the top 4 for its size

Shamrock231

From another thread:

End of Pier E to T2 Exit :....................589m
Furthest Point on Pier B to T2 Exit: ......587m
Furthest Point on Pier D to T1 Exit:.......841m
Closest Point on Pier D to T1 Exit:........607m

The furthest point of Pier B (what yee're calling T1) is actually closer to Terminal 2 than the furthest point of Pier E (what yee consider T2).

burstbuckle

TomTom1963 wrote: »

What an IDEA. put plane stops around the airports to that joker could get off where he likes. The parking position of his aircraft was big pier D but a remote stand used when the airport is at full capacity. Yes Dublin is a very busy international Airport ranked within the top 4 for its size

or get the bus to drive another few minutes & drop people off at the terminal it say's on the ticket i.e Terminal 2

TomTom1963

burstbuckle wrote: »

or get the bus to drive another few minutes & drop people off at the terminal it say's on the ticket i.e Terminal 2

When you got off the bus you were in Terminal 2. There is no doors from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2 for public use so if you went through GNIB & Customs then out the door to Terminal 2 you must have been in Terminal 2 all the time.

Sigourney

TomTom1963 wrote: »

When you got off the bus you were in Terminal 2. There is no doors from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2 for public use so if you went through GNIB & Customs then out the door to Terminal 2 you must have been in Terminal 2 all the time.

No. There's a almost windowless, dreary, cream-painted, hospital extension-style corridor that leads airside from pier B to the immigration huts in terminal 2.

burstbuckle

Sigourney wrote: »

No. There's a almost windowless, dreary, cream-painted, hospital extension-style corridor that leads airside from pier B to the immigration huts in terminal 2.

Yeah defo terminal 1 & as you say it's like death row,just don't understand why the bus can't stop at T2

TomTom1963

Sigourney wrote: »

No. There's a almost windowless, dreary, cream-painted, hospital extension-style corridor that leads airside from pier B to the immigration huts in terminal 2.

That does link the two piers but pier B is user for Terminal 2.

LXFlyer

The problem is that with all of the intercontinental flights arriving first thing in the morning, there is insufficient space at T2 for all of the Aer Lingus short haul fleet.

Hence some of the fleet arrive into pier B (usually about half a dozen aircraft) at night and depart there first thing in the morning.

As pointed out the walk from Pier B to T2 security is no longer than that from the furthest gate on Pier E, and is certainly far shorter than the walk from the furthest gate on Pier D to T1 security.

The reason why you would not be let through T1 security is twofold.
1) All of the bags would be delivered to T2 as that is where the luggage handling is done. Aer Lingus have no facilities in T1 as such.
2) Letting some people out one way and others another is a recipe for disaster and total confusion

It is unusual to park that remotely, but as others point out the airport can be at peak capacity and it can happen - perhaps all of the T2 stands were occupied with other flights and as such the only option could have been routing you through pier B and the airside corridor to T2.

eusap

If you really don't want a little exercise why not pay for the VIP service, a car and driver will meet you at the plane and take you through a private lounge to the outside.

It really is a great service and i think the last time i used it it was around €600

if you want VIP service you have to pay VIP prices

andy_g

Moved to travel.

Tenger

burstbuckle wrote: »

Yeah defo terminal 1 & as you say it's like death row,just don't understand why the bus can't stop at T2

T2 was not built with bussing passengesr in mind....the access points are not easily parked at,buses would block the aircraft , also the steps are steep as designed as back-ups. Pier B (what you are calling T1) actually has entrances that were designed to accept passengers walking in/out. Hence it is safer to bus the people to Pier B,then they walk inside the path to enter the main T2 building at GNIB.