Best H7 bulbs for projector lens?

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http://www.micksgarage.com/car-bulbs/headlight/volkswagen/passat/passat/2005-onwards/2.0-tdi-16v/18523
Hi folks, I want to sort out my lights for the dark evenings as the ones I have are useless.

I have heard Orsam nightbreakers are good but I see Phillips do a Xenon design bulb on micksgarage. They are going into a projector lens if that helps.

dgt

HID's in projectors

/Bastard

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dgt wrote: »

HID's in projectors

/Bastard

Lol I have them but there useless, no fear of blinding anyone with them anyway. I want good bulbs this time as the easiest way to change them is a bumper off job!

dgt

Truckermal wrote: »

Lol I have them but there useless, no fear of blinding anyone with them anyway. I want good bulbs this time as the easiest way to change them is a bumper off job!

Having ran H1 projectors for years with HID's (6000K) I can safely say they were a different league to the equivalent halogen effort. Maybe your reflective lens is bast its best?

From another Mal

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dgt wrote: »

Having ran H1 projectors for years with HID's (6000K) I can safely say they were a different league to the equivalent halogen effort. Maybe your reflective lens is bast its best?

From another Mal

No they are grand as its a relatively new car. Maybe its time for more carrots..

maidhc

Truckermal wrote: »

http://www.micksgarage.com/car-bulbs/headlight/volkswagen/passat/passat/2005-onwards/2.0-tdi-16v/18523
Hi folks, I want to sort out my lights for the dark evenings as the ones I have are useless.

I have heard Orsam nightbreakers are good but I see Phillips do a Xenon design bulb on micksgarage. They are going into a projector lens if that helps.

These ones:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/43967/standard-bulbs-ring-autobulb

Having tried the Osrams and Philips and Halfords +x% bulbs I found none lasted all that long, maybe about one winter. I will never again buy a Nightbreaker or Xtreme this or that. They also tend to fail at almost identical times, to the degree that both nightbreaker falied within two days of eachother leaving me to drive home with my fog lights. The normal Ring bulbs last almost indefinately.

This is my conclusion after 4 cars and 8 years. It isn't wrong.

bazz26

Nightbreakers and the likes have a higher intense light which is very good for night time driving but the downside is that they tend to have a shorter life than regular bulbs.

OldmanMondeo

As pointed out, these type bulbs don't last as long as the normal bulb. This is due to the thinner filament in the bulb.

I have used both the Nightbreaker and Xtremevision before, I found the Xtremevision to give better light and last longer. The idea behind these bulbs is to give a better longer light pattern, but not actually brighter. If you are looking for more light, ie longer beam, then I would suggest the xtremevision, if you want a whiter light more xenon effect, then go for the Bluevision bulb, they give either 4000k or 6000k. For the bluevision you can also get the W5W side light bulbs to match, keep the car looking the same at the front.

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OldmanMondeo wrote: »

As pointed out, these type bulbs don't last as long as the normal bulb. This is due to the thinner filament in the bulb.

I have used both the Nightbreaker and Xtremevision before, I found the Xtremevision to give better light and last longer. The idea behind these bulbs is to give a better longer light pattern, but not actually brighter. If you are looking for more light, ie longer beam, then I would suggest the xtremevision, if you want a whiter light more xenon effect, then go for the Bluevision bulb, they give either 4000k or 6000k. For the bluevision you can also get the W5W side light bulbs to match, keep the car looking the same at the front.

Cheers I may order those so..

wesf

I have a set of osram nightbreaker plus in my car for the last 18 months and still going, great light too, will buy another set when they eventually stop.

Yamanoto

Truckermal wrote: »

http://www.micksgarage.com/car-bulbs/headlight/volkswagen/passat/passat/2005-onwards/2.0-tdi-16v/18523
Hi folks, I want to sort out my lights for the dark evenings as the ones I have are useless.

Same bulbs available from Amazon themselves for £8.99, though additional spend required to avail of free postage.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-Night-Breaker-64210NBP-Headlight/dp/B0047N0B0U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378933965&sr=8-1&keywords=Osram+Night+Breaker+Plus+64210NBP+H7+12V+55W+Twin+Pack+of+Headlight+Bulbs

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Yamanoto wrote: »

Same bulbs available from Amazon themselves for £8.99, though additional spend required to avail of free postage.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-Night-Breaker-64210NBP-Headlight/dp/B0047N0B0U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1378933965&sr=8-1&keywords=Osram+Night+Breaker+Plus+64210NBP+H7+12V+55W+Twin+Pack+of+Headlight+Bulbs

I was just looking at that too, its very cheap as my local factors are 26 quid..

OldmanMondeo

The problem with buying on ebay is while they are cheaper, they have to be posted and thin filaments and glass along with postal workers in a hurry don't mix well. At least with the local guy, the bulbs have been packed in a manor more suited to the transport from country to country.

vectra

Curious as to what car?
HID should certainly give much better light.

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vectra wrote: »

Curious as to what car?
HID should certainly give much better light.

Passat...;)

vectra

Ah.
So you found them useless> I thought you would have been happy with them.
What K bulbs did you get?

visual

If going the HID route 35w and either 4300k or max 5000k will give you the most usable light on the road.

4300k is same colour as halogen bulbs
5000k is as pure white
6000k is white with blue tint

The blue tint gets stronger the higher the K
Also blue reduces the light outout and is useless on wet roads at night.

I had 6000k fitted and changing to 5000k made driving at night a pleasure.

Turtle-TM

I've had ring +120% on my car before and they gave good white light at night, still looked yellow during the day though, unlike hids

Is it illegal to have aftermarket hids fitted with out a lense washer fitted, or will it just not pass the nct. I would like to upgrade to 5000k hids

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vectra wrote: »

Ah.
So you found them useless> I thought you would have been happy with them.
What K bulbs did you get?

I had 4300k but the light was useless, anyway they won't pass the test with them so I am not really interested in having stuff like that in the car!!

I changed them this this evening with help from a friend and OMG what a hoor of a job, I can't see how its possible unless the light unit is out! I asked a mechanic friend before would he install a HID kit and he said no way they will ruin your car and how true he was!!!

Anyway saving up for a A6 atm so I will get Xenons at some stage.

vectra

Truckermal wrote: »

I had 4300k but the light was useless, anyway they won't pass the test with them so I am not really interested in having stuff like that in the car!!

I changed them this this evening with help from a friend and OMG what a hoor of a job, I can't see how its possible unless the light unit is out! I asked a mechanic friend before would he install a HID kit and he said no way they will ruin your car and how true he was!!!

Anyway saving up for a A6 atm so I will get Xenons at some stage.

I can 100% disagree with him.
My car is brand new
I took out the h7 halogen bulbs and fitted HID 5k kit.
The difference is night and day.

visual

Truckermal wrote: »

I had 4300k but the light was useless, anyway they won't pass the test with them so I am not really interested in having stuff like that in the car!!

I changed them this this evening with help from a friend and OMG what a hoor of a job, I can't see how its possible unless the light unit is out! I asked a mechanic friend before would he install a HID kit and he said no way they will ruin your car and how true he was!!!

Anyway saving up for a A6 atm so I will get Xenons at some stage.

You really have no idea what your talking about do you even know what Xenons are

visual

Turtle-TM wrote: »

I've had ring +120% on my car before and they gave good white light at night, still looked yellow during the day though, unlike hids

Is it illegal to have aftermarket hids fitted with out a lense washer fitted, or will it just not pass the nct. I would like to upgrade to 5000k hids

It will bring you into a very grey area technically if in approved headlamps with washer and auto level adjustment they are.
In unapproved headlamp with out self leveling suspension or auto leveling washer wiper if fitted its not.

The tester can read letters on headlamp and determine if they are halogen or HID type.
If washers and or wipers are fitted test that these work. Fail if they dont. No fail if not fitted.
Auto level is not tested. But if electrical level control switch is fitted it is tested. (Most cars have this)

I have HID in projector headlamps last two NCT tests there was no issue.
Saying that its possible at some future NCT I might get pulled up on these. If I do its a quick bulb swap to halogen bulbs.

I think if you fit HID in reflector housings there is much smaller chance passing test.

As a quick tip I used a HID relay harness so car wiring is all original and intact. So I can switch back to regular halogen bulbs easily if needed.

HID kit (bulb and balast)
HID relay kit (relay fuse holder wiring harness)
Can both be bought of ebay amazon etc cheaply

I advise only use them in projector headlamps as HID in halogen reflector headlamps cause too much glare and piss everyone off.