Timing chain replacement cost

Hey,

Just wondering if someone would know the rough cost it would be to have a timing chain replaced on an 05 yaris?

tks

OREGATO

Not sure about the Yaris but on Hondas and Nissans I've had in the past, there should be no reason to change the chains as they're meant to last the lifetime of the engine (once it's been well maintained and looked after)

Is the chain rattling or are there problems with the car or are you thinking of just changing it as part of a service - if the latter, they're different to timing belts and wouldn't need changing (normally)

OREGATO

OREGATO wrote: »

Not sure about the Yaris but on Hondas and Nissans I've had in the past, there should be no reason to change the chains as they're meant to last the lifetime of the engine (once it's been well maintained and looked after)

Is the chain rattling or are there problems with the car or are you thinking of just changing it as part of a service - if the latter, they're different to timing belts and wouldn't need changing (normally)

Not too sure. The car has around 70,000 miles on it I think, she bought it with 30k on it from a toyota dealer. so im sure it had a full service before they sold it. I have been changing the oil,filer, air filter and pads every 10k or so and told the mother it needed a proper service at this stage (if not well before,she wouldn't listen)

She brought it to the mechanic who said the chain was ****ed and needed replacing immediately and he wouldn't just do the chain but the sprockets etc aswell.

Your answer is part of why I asked, I was under the impression they dont need to be changed or else not until huge mileage.

shes being quoted like minimum 1500 I think, 2 days labour + parts.

rai555

Monroe Rhythmic Bone wrote: »

Not too sure. The car has around 70,000 miles on it I think, she bought it with 30k on it from a toyota dealer. so im sure it had a full service before they sold it. I have been changing the oil,filer, air filter and pads every 10k or so and told the mother it needed a proper service at this stage (if not well before,she wouldn't listen)

She brought it to the mechanic who said the chain was ****ed and needed replacing immediately and he wouldn't just do the chain but the sprockets etc aswell.

Your answer is part of why I asked, I was under the impression they dont need to be changed or else not until huge mileage.

shes being quoted like minimum 1500 I think, 2 days labour + parts.

There is a chance the previous owner ( owners ) saved or skipped few oil changes and someone has to pay the bill.

George Dalton

€1500 is crazy, 2 days labour is crazy. If those kind of figures are being talked about then go elsewhere.

Those Yaris chains don't usually give any trouble unless the engine has been neglected and when the chain is stretched there are usually plenty of warning signs such as engine management light and rattling noises from engine on start up.

dh0011

When the chain stretched on my almera it was 500 quid to change it.

George Dalton

George Dalton wrote: »

€1500 is crazy, 2 days labour is crazy. If those kind of figures are being talked about then go elsewhere.

Those Yaris chains don't usually give any trouble unless the engine has been neglected and when the chain is stretched there are usually plenty of warning signs such as engine management light and rattling noises from engine on start up.

Thanks George,there definitely rattling noises on start up.

I asked her there and she originally brought in in because of a lack of power when in first. i.e the car moves off at a ridiculously slow/dangerous pace until it gets to about 10 mph and then it feels like something kicks in and its fine. to get it to take off safely if pulling out you have to rev it to about 3k before clutch.

Maybe there is more wrong with it so the price may reflect, il have to ask him myself.

George Dalton

Well that may be the case but if she is being quoted €1500 just to replace the chain and associated parts then that is madness.

Frankie Lee

A disgraceful quote which makes me suspect that there isn't even anything wrong with the chain.

bazz26

Get a second opinion OP.

coylemj

Monroe Rhythmic Bone wrote: »

She brought it to the mechanic who said the chain was ****ed and needed replacing immediately and he wouldn't just do the chain but the sprockets etc aswell.

There was a thread on Motors recently about main dealer servicing, the OP was a female who had been told to avoid getting her car serviced in a main dealer like the plague. She went to one indy who fleeced her for a timing chain replacement. On the next service she went to a different indy ...... who told her she needed a new timing chain.

Seems to be a pattern here.

hadook

I had a timing chain replaced on my last car - 1.2 Skoda Fabia with high mileage.

Mine gave me loads of warning signs there was a problem before I had it done and cost about 700 iirc. Took a few hours but was in/out the same day.

From memory it was misfiring when cold, juddering and eventually we got the bouncy rev counter, I assume as it really started to stretch. The engine management light was my constant companion anyway due to an o2 sensor that I got fed up changing but I think it was throwing error codes too.

Joe 90

I strongly suspect that people believe that a timing chain will last for the life of the engine because it was true in the past. But in the past you would be lucky to get 50,000 miles from and engine. When you rebuilt an engine you checked the chain, sprockets and tensioner. If anything needed replaced you did so. The only cost was the parts since the engine was stripped anyhow.

In fact when Vauxhall introduce a belt driven camshaft they lifed the belt at 50,000 miles and no one saw any problem.

The thing is that these days people expect to get much more than 50,000 miles from an engine so replacing a belt at a particular intervals a fact of life and replacing a chain may well become so. The trouble is that although the parts usually do not cost a fortune there is a biggish labour bill attached.

dh0011

I dont expect to be replacing my timing chain any time soon on my avensis and there are cars like mine which are over 200000 miles on the original.

Chains should last the life of the engine.

wildefalcon

dh0011 wrote: »

I dont expect to be replacing my timing chain any time soon on my avensis and there are cars like mine which are over 200000 miles on the original.

Chains should last the life of the engine.

They usually do last the life of the engine! - once the chain breaks the engines life is usually over!!



But seriously, a good few modern engines only have a simplex -single - chain. They stretch. They also run on plastic tensioners which wear and fail.

The VAG group have a few of these - fine in unstressed engines, but add in Start/Stop technology, high pressure turbos and the like, and it results in a timing chain that doesn't last as long as a decent timing belt design.

They should have duplex chains - two chains in one, with twin sprockets, and metal tensioners. But that's expensive, and the marketing people have taken all the budget!

Ask the main stealer how much the job should cost and then you've an idea where to start, also consider if the car is worth it - it might be cheaper to trade it in.

sumo12

George Dalton wrote: »

€1500 is crazy, 2 days labour is crazy. If those kind of figures are being talked about then go elsewhere

+1 - I'm in a main dealer and that job is €700 approx here, and done in the day

George Dalton wrote: »

Those Yaris chains don't usually give any trouble unless the engine has been neglected

+1

Think someone is pulling your plumb and/or looking for a bit of work for himself