Heads Up for Tax on STOLEN motorcycle

99nsr125

Just to give people a heads up

I recieved this today (See attachments)

The bike it refers to is/was mine
however it was STOLEN.

I made a report to the Garda at the time
and the insurance company although I didn't claim as I had TPO.

I'm lucky, I haven't moved but if you've moved
etc and one of these notices is fired out by
a poorly programme system you could very easily end
up in court if automatic fines follow.

I'll be off down to the Garda, Motor Tax Office and Department
of Transport to inform them of their mistake but people
need to know that this is happening.

CJhaughey

I guess this is a symptom of a system that's not designed around people but around generating revenue.

Del2005

CJhaughey wrote: »

I guess this is a symptom of a system that's not designed around people but around generating revenue.

There's nothing wrong with the system. Unless the bike is sold or scrapped it's still registered to the last person on the VLC. They are warning you that unless you tell them that your vehicle is off the road you'll be liable for back tax. To me it sounds like they are trying to help save money for people. Since the OP doesn't have the bike they can't be liable for back tax.

galwaytt

Del2005 wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with the system. Unless the bike is sold or scrapped it's still registered to the last person on the VLC. They are warning you that unless you tell them that your vehicle is off the road you'll be liable for back tax. To me it sounds like they are trying to help save money for people. Since the OP doesn't have the bike they can't be liable for back tax.

You must be kidding.

Whatever they're warning you about, they are not trying to 'help' OP.

The only people they're helping is themselves. Just like the property tax they are putting the frighteners on people to submit details of all the vehicles out there 'off the road' so they can build up a database upon which to levy more charges - you just wait and see.

I declared 3 today, and the Garda at the station said they're inundated with it - and expect a rush for end-of-month as well.

Del2005

galwaytt wrote: »

You must be kidding.

Whatever they're warning you about, they are not trying to 'help' OP.

The only people they're helping is themselves. Just like the property tax they are putting the frighteners on people to submit details of all the vehicles out there 'off the road' so they can build up a database upon which to levy more charges - you just wait and see.

I declared 3 today, and the Garda at the station said they're inundated with it - and expect a rush for end-of-month as well.

It's a fairer system than the current one where people happily avoided paying road tax by making a false declaration of none use. If people weren't abusing the old system so much they wouldn't have had to change. It's rather simple now your vehicle needs to be taxed or declared off the road, the old way was a joke.

Zoo4m8

I got three of these today , one of them was for a bike I never owned.....

99nsr125

Del2005 wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with the system. Unless the bike is sold or scrapped it's still registered to the last person on the VLC. They are warning you that unless you tell them that your vehicle is off the road you'll be liable for back tax. To me it sounds like they are trying to help save money for people. Since the OP doesn't have the bike they can't be liable for back tax.

The bike was stolen 10 years ago
and logically I should be listed as the last owner.


Now the bike is gone for good and probably a washing machine
by now which means I'm never getting it back to put it on the
road again.


For other people who have something stolen
and the tax expires during that time
if it's ever recovered by the implication of the letter
and FAQ on Motortax.ie they'll
be in a mess.


Technically if you decalre the bike/vehicle is off the road when
it's not in your posession your making a false declaration so it's
not an option for you if your hoping it'll be recovered.

The database must be able to record a vehicle as stolen
and the new tax system should (must) account for this
but it dosen't appear to in my case and if it's happened to me
it'll be happening to other people.

Del2005

99nsr125 wrote: »

The bike was stolen 10 years ago
and logically I should be listed as the last owner.


Now the bike is gone for good and probably a washing machine
by now which means I'm never getting it back to put it on the
road again.


For other people who have something stolen
and the tax expires during that time
if it's ever recovered by the implication of the letter
and FAQ on Motortax.ie they'll
be in a mess.


Technically if you decalre the bike/vehicle is off the road when
it's not in your posession your making a false declaration so it's
not an option for you if your hoping it'll be recovered.

The database must be able to record a vehicle as stolen
and the new tax system should (must) account for this
but it dosen't appear to in my case and if it's happened to me
it'll be happening to other people.

What was the response to you telling them the bike was stolen?

CJhaughey