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Brazilian birth cert HELP

  • 09-09-2013 7:40pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13


    I wasn't really sure where to put this but maybe people on here would have an idea of what to do. My fiancee was born in Brazil and came to Ireland at 15. He now needs his birth cert legalized so we can get married. The embassy areso unhelpful and we really just do not know how to do this! If any one has any info at all it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Maybe if you ring one ot the registrars of births/deaths/marriages in Ireland they could help you but I think the embassy is the obvious one to help.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 Leanneire1


    We have rang all of they above who all say it is none of their problems :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 rpe


    Your best bet is to check with the Brazilian Embassy in Dublin. They must have come across this before.

    EMBASSY OF THE FEDERATIVE REPUBLIC OF BRAZIL
    Block 8, 6th Floor, Harcourt Centre, Charlotte Way, Dublin 2
    Tel: 01 475 6000 Fax: 01 475 1341.
    General E-Mail: brasemb.dublin@itamaraty.gov.br


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    A Brazialian birth certificate is legalised in Brazil, by the Brazilian Department of Foreign Affairs, and thats' where your boyfriend needs to start. Basically, he takes (or he sends by post, or he gets a friend to take) his Brazilian birth certificate to the Brazilian Dept of Foreign Affairs, who put a stamp on it to say, in effect, yep, this is an authentic Brazilian birth certificate. Then he takes it to the Irish embassy in Brazil, who put a stamp on it sayingb, in effect, yep, that's the seal of the Brazilian Dept of Foreign Affairs. The Brazilian birth cert is then good for all official purposes in Ireland. (Though he may need to get a certified translation into English as well. He can organise that himself, with a commercial translator.)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭Gatica


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    A Brazialian birth certificate is legalised in Brazil, by the Brazilian Department of Foreign Affairs, and thats' where your boyfriend needs to start. Basically, he takes (or he sends by post, or he gets a friend to take) his Brazilian birth certificate to the Brazilian Dept of Foreign Affairs, who put a stamp on it to say, in effect, yep, this is an authentic Brazilian birth certificate. Then he takes it to the Irish embassy in Brazil, who put a stamp on it sayingb, in effect, yep, that's the seal of the Brazilian Dept of Foreign Affairs. The Brazilian birth cert is then good for all official purposes in Ireland. (Though he may need to get a certified translation into English as well. He can organise that himself, with a commercial translator.)

    As this poster said. The Embassy does not have anything to do with this or the Irish DFA. You need to find where this certification (Apostille) is done in Brazil itself and either regrettably travel there, send by post or get family/friends to do the footwork. I had to do the same with my foreign birth cert. It was good enough to get citizenship but not to get married (really stupid rules here on that).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭Gatica


    Actually, having checked the list of countries in the Hague convention, looks like Brazil is not in it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostille_Convention

    According to http://www.apostille.ie:
    If a state, in which you are preparing documents, is not a signatory of the Hague Convention, consular legalization is required. It is a more complicated procedure which includes document certification in the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ireland and when in a consular office of the respective country. Consular legalization makes your document valid only in the territory of the state which consular office attaches the stamp.

    //Edit: sorry for giving wrong advice initially. Here's the latest intel... :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flikflak


    Google for the gov dept that looks after records in Brazil. I`m assuming your other half speaks the language and you should be able to find some info from their site?

    You can then either ring them or you might be able to order a copy of the cert online?

    You need to contact the relevant dept in the country of birth. No one will be able to help you in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 Leanneire1


    Thank you Peregrinus, it is looking like that is exactly right!


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