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Mechanical watches not for me?
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09-09-2013 6:06pm#1
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Purchase a citizen chronomaster, for a non atomic it's accurate to within 5 seconds a year. Wake up every morning and feel a glow of satisfaction
in the knowledge that it's on average 15 times more accurate than a regular quartz.
It's my next purchase for sure.
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jefferson73 wrote: »Purchase a citizen chronomaster, for a non atomic it's accurate to within 5 seconds a year. Wake up every morning and feel a glow of satisfaction in the knowledge that it's on average 15 times more accurate than a regular quartz.
It's my next purchase for sure.
I have a Citizen Eco-Drive in my collection. I'm wearing it today. It just spent 6 weeks in a drawer and when I pulled it out the time was spot on. This is exactly the reason why I think a quartz is more suited to me.
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Get an automatic mechanical watch and invest in a watch winder. Solves your problem!
http://www.amazon.com/Diplomat-Single-Black-Watch-Winder/dp/B002CVUO9C/ref=lp_378532011_1_18/175-3471875-5951347?ie=UTF8&qid=1378762037&sr=1-18
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jefferson73 wrote: »Purchase a citizen chronomaster, for a non atomic it's accurate to within 5 seconds a year. Wake up every morning and feel a glow of satisfaction in the knowledge that it's on average 15 times more accurate than a regular quartz.
It's my next purchase for sure.
Eh?
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^ High end hand assembled thermo compensated quartz movement (A660 I think ?).
A regular quartz which is not radio/atomic controlled might lose or gain (probably lose) as much as 15 - 20 seconds per month. One of these will be plus/minus 5 seconds per year, with some owners reporting even less margins of variability)
Could not put it better myself.
From my point of view the Citizen ticks all my boxes. I'm not making a case for quartz over mechanical as I own and love both types.
But the high accuracy really appeals to me, secondly it looks like a run of the mill bog standard Citizen to those not in the know, minimal bling, function over form and mostly over engineered. Hardened Duratect titanium case and band.No date changes for a while with a perpetual calendar until 2100 and if crossing time zones the hour hand can be moved independently of the minute hand.
Having seen one in the flesh it's the best lume I've come across, and finally I admire the fact that Citizen gives this watch a ten year warranty!!!,they will provide two 5 year battery changes / gaskets etc. and buffer out any imperfection's on the case and or strap at no cost, quite unusual for a watch manufacturer these days. Put my money where my mouth is and ordered one earlier.
So back to the original poster, can I recommend another watch that's again more than meets the eye...apologies another JDM...CASIO G shock GW-5000-1JF...atomic accurate, I love it.
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We are watch brothers.
I love that citizen. However faced with the choice I got myself a Grand Seiko SBGX063 (the 9F quartz is thermo comp and plus/minus 10 secs over a year although mine is plus 2 over the year I've had it) - I just preferred the champagne dial on the GS (although its lack of an independent date setting mechanism is a little frustrating and it does not have a perpetual calendar) as I already have a fairly dressy black dial watch and I don't go for pure white dials generally.
I also own and love a GW-5000.
The rest of my collection tends towards the mechanical (Omega AT 2500 black dial on stainless, Seiko MM300 (usually wear on OEM bracelet or black isofrane), Stowa 1938 Chrono (on blue/gray or brown contrast OEM croco), Stowa Flieger (on old style OEM brown leather), Hamilton Field Mechanical 38mm (on the OEM leather and canvass)) although I am a sucker for a Seiko diver of any sort (BM, BFK Pepsi, SSC031).0 -
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We are watch brothers.
I love that citizen. However faced with the choice I got myself a Grand Seiko SBGX063 (the 9F quartz is thermo comp and plus/minus 10 secs over a year although mine is plus 2 over the year I've had it) - I just preferred the champagne dial on the GS (although its lack of an independent date setting mechanism is a little frustrating and it does not have a perpetual calendar) as I already have a fairly dressy black dial watch and I don't go for pure white dials generally.
I also own and love a GW-5000.
The rest of my collection tends towards the mechanical (Omega AT 2500 black dial on stainless, Seiko MM300 (usually wear on OEM bracelet or black isofrane), Stowa 1938 Chrono (on blue/gray or brown contrast OEM croco), Stowa Flieger (on old style OEM brown leather), Hamilton Field Mechanical 38mm (on the OEM leather and canvass)) although I am a sucker for a Seiko diver of any sort (BM, BFK Pepsi, SSC031).
we really are! I doff my cap to your exceptional taste
I recently got a GS before the September price increase..also have a MM300 and shogun..
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We are watch brothers.
I love that citizen. However faced with the choice I got myself a Grand Seiko SBGX063 (the 9F quartz is thermo comp and plus/minus 10 secs over a year although mine is plus 2 over the year I've had it) - I just preferred the champagne dial on the GS (although its lack of an independent date setting mechanism is a little frustrating and it does not have a perpetual calendar) as I already have a fairly dressy black dial watch and I don't go for pure white dials generally.
I also own and love a GW-5000.
The rest of my collection tends towards the mechanical (Omega AT 2500 black dial on stainless, Seiko MM300 (usually wear on OEM bracelet or black isofrane), Stowa 1938 Chrono (on blue/gray or brown contrast OEM croco), Stowa Flieger (on old style OEM brown leather), Hamilton Field Mechanical 38mm (on the OEM leather and canvass)) although I am a sucker for a Seiko diver of any sort (BM, BFK Pepsi, SSC031).
Let me ask you a question. With all these watches in your collection, do you find yourself reaching for a quartz in the morning for convenience?
I think that's the crux of it for me. I love the idea of a mechanical watch for its engineering etc.... But they're just not as convenient.
I'm certainly taking something from this thread. There are quartz watches that are considered desirable. Maybe not by the purists, but certainly by some. Maybe that's where I should turn my attention. What other quartz watches would fall into this category?0 -
I don't specifically choose between mechanical/automatic/quartz.
Work for me is suited and booted 90% of the time, so in those circumstances, five days a week I tend to go for either the Omega Aquaterra or the Grand Seiko, as these are the ones that go best with a suit.
Outside of work, or if not in a suit, it could be any of them, although obvious choices are made (I do swim and snorkel quite a lot so a quartz diver or g-shock for instance. I also hate the look of a shirt/jacket cuff that's hung up on a watch so not going to wear a big diver with certain clothes. Then, you can completely change the look of a watch with a new strap...).
In terms of the 'inconvenience' of an automatic or mechanical which has run down it takes what 2 minutes to set time and date and get the piece going again ? Less if there's no date complication. Not significant to me. There's lots of reasons to enjoy a good quartz watch but that's not a major factor for me.jefferson73 wrote: »we really are! I doff my cap to your exceptional taste
I recently got a GS before the September price increase..also have a MM300 and shogun..
Outstanding watches.
I weighed up the 2500 PO, 14060M and MM300 and ultimately decided on the MM. Having handled all three I don't regret it for a moment, and my wallet is €€€€(s) better off. A good friend swears by his DSSD and I can see what he's getting at in terms of build quality but its a much less versatile watch. The Rolex is too common and also will always have a certain image that in my line of business I would be anxious to avoid at the moment (I'm not knocking them - the no date sub is a classic and I think I will own one in the future). The Omega is a beaut but again I just see too many of them around (it was very close between the MM300 and the PO). Hand on heart though the MM300 is as good or better in the metal compared to the 14060 or the PO (the DSSD is a different category for me).
If I took my MM300 (with OEM bracelet and black isofrane - I recommend a permanent installation of fat seiko spring bars in the rubber for convenience) and my GS with OEM bracelet & GS croco with deployant, and was honest with myself, I wouldn't need any other watch at all (ok maybe the AT for a black dial dress option...).0 -
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I often do TBH. Not a quartz exactly, but a battery powered "electronic" job from the 60's that doesn't require winding. Accuracy wise it's actually less accurate than a couple of my mechanicals, so it's definitely the convenience aspect for me. My stuff is all old so I also "rest" them from time to time and the battery job would be my go to watch for that too.Let me ask you a question. With all these watches in your collection, do you find yourself reaching for a quartz in the morning for convenience?
There certainly are, even among purists, especially vintage collectors.I'm certainly taking something from this thread. There are quartz watches that are considered desirable. Maybe not by the purists, but certainly by some.
On the more vintage side there were/are quite a few. The early high end quartz models from the big names can get big money. Something like the Omega Megaquartz marine chronometer would be about the top of the tree.Maybe that's where I should turn my attention. What other quartz watches would fall into this category?
Like the Citizen above thermo adjusted with a much higher oscillation than standard quartz gave figures of 6 seconds a year. Most accurate wristwatch in the world until quite recently and this was back in the 1970's. One issue was battery use though. The higher speed oscillation chewed through batteries. One a year IIRC.
Rolex had their own high spec quartz, applying the height of Swiss watchmaking to the movement. Longines and Zenith also had these high end quartz jobs.
Personally I'd love one, but the vintage route has issues. Spares are near impossible to get and unlike "pure" mechanical watches the circuitry tends to break down over long time use.
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