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Brake Pad Wear Indicator - NCT Fail

  • 09-09-2013 11:16am
    #1
    dp639
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭


    Hi,
    The brake pad wear indicator is showing up on the dash, this happens occassionly so much than likely its a short in the circuit.

    Plenty of wear left on each of the four corners but if the indicator is on during the NCT test will it fail? even if the performance of the brakes are fine?

    Thanks!


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  • #2
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    This is the NCT test sheet
    http://www.ncts.ie/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf
    It doesn't specify what you're asking so I'd say put it through, it'll prob just be an advisory as they can see there's material on the pad itself.


  • #3
    dp639
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭dp639


    Thanks for that.
    Yes I looked at that document too and didnt find anything on the indicator.


  • #4
    Delta Kilo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,212 ✭✭✭Delta Kilo


    In my experience these indicators are just a wire embedded in the nearside (passenger) front brake pads and when the abrasive of the pad wears down to a point it gets exposed and triggers the warning light, it breaks the circuit which indicates the light.

    What I always do is cut the two wires going into the break pad and solder/join them together and tape them up against the loom. IMO there is far too much left on the pads for a light to be on and the light gets annoying. I know myself when they need changing.

    This should work for you.


  • #5
    dp639
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭dp639


    Thanks for that also!


  • #6
    barneygumble99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,326 ✭✭✭barneygumble99


    that wont fail


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  • #7
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    barneygumble99 wrote: »
    that wont fail

    Item 60 of the NCT manual doesn't agree with you.
    biko wrote: »
    This is the NCT test sheet
    http://www.ncts.ie/NCT%20Manual%20Revise%20May%202012.pdf
    It doesn't specify what you're asking so I'd say put it through, it'll prob just be an advisory as they can see there's material on the pad itself.

    Would the pad ware indicator not flag one of these?
    Ensure the malfunction indicators for Airbags, Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and Electronic Braking System (EBS) / Anti-Lock
    Braking System (ABS) and Parking Brake malfunction indicator are in working order.


  • #8
    dp639
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭dp639


    There are separate indicators for ABS and Parking brake so it should be ok.

    If there was an 'etc' at the end of the sentence then it would be different story. I plan on finding the issue causing it anyway before the test.

    Thanks anyway.


  • #9
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    that light illuminated on the dash will not pass the nct.


  • #10
    tossy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭tossy


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Item 60 of the NCT manual doesn't agree with you.



    Would the pad ware indicator not flag one of these?

    The pad ware indicator being illuminated doesn't effect or relater to the operation of any of those systems.


  • #11
    dp639
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭dp639


    I'll see how it goes, if it fails on only that I think I'd have a case to argue as there is no mention of it in the manual. If it fails on something else then I'll just take it on the chin!


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  • #12
    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    i've had a vectra before where the brake pad wear indicator was on and it passed the NCT.


  • #13
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    A brake pad wear indicator is not an indicator of brake failure, merely a service reminder, so technically should have no bearing on it's own.

    It would only mean anything if a matching inspection of the pads founds the pads to be below - not at - service limits.

    Of course the reverse is also true: i.e. if your indicator is NOT on and they physically inspect pads and see they are worn to an unacceptable standard you'll fall as well.

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  • #14
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Toyotafanboi wrote: »
    i've had a vectra before where the brake pad wear indicator was on and it passed the NCT.

    and i've had a avensis before where it was on, and it failed.....can depend on the tester.


  • #15
    Frankie Lee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    and i've had a avensis before where it was on, and it failed.....can depend on the tester.

    Unless I'm mistaken no Avensis has ever had an electronic wear indicator on them.


  • #16
    Stereomaniac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭Stereomaniac


    A lot of these things can depend on who is testing the car and what sort of humor they're in.


  • #17
    Stoolbend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭Stoolbend


    Frankie Lee wrote: »
    Unless I'm mistaken no Avensis has ever had an electronic wear indicator on them.


    I don't think you're mistaken.


  • #18
    nct tester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 361 ✭✭nct tester


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    that light illuminated on the dash will not pass the nct.

    wrong


  • #19
    MidlandsM
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    nct tester wrote: »
    wrong


    thanks ...... i stand humbly corrected....:D

    and re; the avensis, I'm wrong there too, think it was a beamer or something, it can be a blurrrrrr.....the amonut of yokes that i test and goes thru me hands, who knows.


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