Friesian bullocks price

tlandy

Hi, I'm new posting here so here goes...

I've 7 friesian bullocks I need to sell. They're over 700kg lots of flesh for friesians. My question is if I bring them to the mart what can I expect to get per kg? They're all over 30 months.

simx

tlandy wrote: »

Hi, I'm new posting here so here goes...

I've 7 friesian bullocks I need to sell. They're over 700kg lots of flesh for friesians. My question is if I bring them to the mart what can I expect to get per kg? They're all over 30 months.

Id say €2/kg +

tlandy

Thanks for that Simx, I wouldn't have thought that much myself, but happy to hear all the same:-)

Farmer Pudsey

Assuming that they kill 49-50% carcase weight would be around 350kgs, At over 30 months O- is at about 3.86 and P+ is at 3.8/kg. Hard to see them making 2/kg, 1.9/kg might be tops after 1100 euro plain cattle slow down fast.

Fella that takes them to the factory wants a bob as well.

mf240

Factory them.

nashmach

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Assuming that they kill 49-50% carcase weight would be around 350kgs, At over 30 months O- is at about 3.86 and P+ is at 3.8/kg. Hard to see them making 2/kg, 1.9/kg might be tops after 1100 euro plain cattle slow down fast.

Fella that takes them to the factory wants a bob as well.

Just in from the mart myself and I'd say the above is about right, so 1100 to 1150.

tlandy

mf240 wrote: »

Factory them.

30 months+ and without QA I could end up with a poor price from the factory... that's the worry anyway.

nashmach, 1100 to 1150 for 700+ kg live? That has me down in the dumps compared to that nice positive talk of €2 from Simx:D

nashmach

tlandy wrote: »

30 months+ and without QA I could end up with a poor price from the factory... that's the worry anyway.

nashmach, 1100 to 1150 for 700+ kg live? That has me down in the dumps compared to that nice positive talk of €2 from Simx:D

I'm afraid that was about the price alright and it would be plenty going on what Pudsey says too as prices in the factory almost seem to be on a constant decrease each week now.

moy83

I sold 4 fr bullocks last saturday they avgd 490kg , and I got 800 a piece . They were just under 2yr old and werent the best bullocks in fairness I was happy with that price though

ordinary farmer

ive 3 butts of weanlings they are not tall at all but wud be around 265-300kg all there born last december in the space of 3 weeks and all are of poor enough quality 2 angus bullocks and a lmx heifer. what sort of money would a man expect or woud i be better to feed over the winter ill have plenty of silage for them but would like to buy a springer with the price of them

simx

tlandy wrote: »

30 months+ and without QA I could end up with a poor price from the factory... that's the worry anyway.

nashmach, 1100 to 1150 for 700+ kg live? That has me down in the dumps compared to that nice positive talk of €2 from Simx:D

sorry i might of jumped the gun when i think of it now, if nice type bullocks id still expect 1200

nashmach

simx wrote: »

sorry i might of jumped the gun when i think of it now, if nice type bullocks id still expect 1200

830kgs today, big CHX bullock, made 1930 today!!

simx

nashmach wrote: »

830kgs today, big CHX bullock, made 1930 today!!

that in ross? what was trade like many culls in it?

nashmach

simx wrote: »

that in ross? what was trade like many culls in it?

Yep in Ross.

Was only there for some of the heifers and bullocks.

Didn't see many culls around to be honest.

Place was jam packed with cattle tbh and bullocks in particularly were very lively with no bargains there.

Farmer Pudsey

nashmach wrote: »

830kgs today, big CHX bullock, made 1930 today!!

Big difference between a 830kg CHX and a700kg Frx. The Chx could still be under 30 months. He might be a U= however even killing out at 55% he be 457kgd DW which equates to 4.22/kg. Was he announced as QA if so his price equate to the base and the QA.

Very hard to get freisian to make QA for a number of reasons at present they be all nearly over 30 months. Next at present it I hard to get them into O= and even if you do they may have been for spin with 3-4 jobbers before you get them.

Some cattle make as much in the mart as in the factory however it is only some. Most tend to be under finished cattle or cattle that a few factory agents want on the day. However in general from what I see most used to have a margin of 100 build into the price for the dealer.

QA may have changed some of this as cattle have to go from the QA herd into the factory herd.

I find that most people that do not finish cattle think that there cattle have a lot of flesh and are heavier than they think. There are fair cuts for under fleshed cattle and this is worse with FRX as present if you slip into P= some factory's penalise you by 50c/kg. ( this is about the same as cow price)

Have your fresian got much ration/nuts and for how long

nashmach

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Big difference between a 830kg CHX and a700kg Frx. The Chx could still be under 30 months. He might be a U= however even killing out at 55% he be 457kgd DW which equates to 4.22/kg. Was he announced as QA if so his price equate to the base and the QA.

Very hard to get freisian to make QA for a number of reasons at present they be all nearly over 30 months. Next at present it I hard to get them into O= and even if you do they may have been for spin with 3-4 jobbers before you get them.

Some cattle make as much in the mart as in the factory however it is only some. Most tend to be under finished cattle or cattle that a few factory agents want on the day. However in general from what I see most used to have a margin of 100 build into the price for the dealer.

QA may have changed some of this as cattle have to go from the QA herd into the factory herd.

I find that most people that do not finish cattle think that there cattle have a lot of flesh and are heavier than they think. There are fair cuts for under fleshed cattle and this is worse with FRX as present if you slip into P= some factory's penalise you by 50c/kg. ( this is about the same as cow price)

Have your fresian got much ration/nuts and for how long

Not going to disagree with any of that.

The CHX was QA and I'm pretty sure was very near or slightly over 30 months. Would be a U minus perhaps but would be that with a large push.

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

830kgs today, big CHX bullock, made 1930 today!!

paid 1890 for a 870 chx bullock a week or so ago. will feed him on for a few months till he is heavy enough to kill:D

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

paid 1890 for a 870 chx bullock a week or so ago. will feed him on for a few months till he is heavy enough to kill:D

You aiming to beat that 475kgs dead again

moy83

bob charles wrote: »

paid 1890 for a 870 chx bullock a week or so ago. will feed him on for a few months till he is heavy enough to kill:D

How much more mate will you get on him ? Do the limos ever carry as much as the charlaois boyos

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

You aiming to beat that 475kgs dead again

Often have them over that. Neighbor asked me to take a bull to the factory for him recently as he couldnt get him into the car trailer:D, I squeezed him into a 12 X 6 trailer. The bull had to be weighed in quarters as the weigh scale zeroed when he was put on it. Bull was Deadweight of 820 kilos:eek:

bob charles

moy83 wrote: »

How much more mate will you get on him ? Do the limos ever carry as much as the charlaois boyos

Chara fill out more but have a massive limmi bullock here aswell at the moment. Will hold onto him for month to six weeks. 3 yr old bullock and never seen a grain in his life im told.

moy83

bob charles wrote: »

Chara fill out more but have a massive limmi bullock here aswell at the moment. Will hold onto him for month to six weeks. 3 yr old bullock and never seen a grain in his life im told.

Sure good grass and a bit of age goes a long way I suppose if the breeding is in him . I dont know what weight the bullocks the father used to keep here were but they used to be monsters aswell and they definitely never got any nuts either

kingstown

Know the thread is about Friesian Bullocks, and don't want to highjack it but a few already posted about Limx / Chx already.
I have a 8 lovely Limx just about ready - all look like nice R's @ about 680/690kgs and all under 30months.The red lads look slightly better than the blacks.
Thing is, prices are back and going back and I have little grass at the moment and as our place is pure limestone the place is like concrete no grass growing at all, should I let them off?
I hope to get €4.10 + QA Bonus and maybe kill out at 350/360kg. Is there any sign of prices firming up later maybe in 2/3 weeks?

Farmer Pudsey

Unless you can hold to christmass I be inclined to move. It is hardt to see a price rise over the next few weeks. The week of the ploughing is always a good time to sell cattle however 5 or 6 may not be enought to entail a price rise. If heading for 700lgs the should kill 360 and better at 55% they be killing 385kgs

Over next few weeks most summer grazers will be offloading cattle so factory's may not be under pressure to get cattle. Also factory's tend to apply downward pressure on cattle as ir allows them to stock feedlots cheaplt and encourages finishers to buy cattle.

kingstown

Thanks Pudsey, Dealer came back a while ago saying Dawn in Waterford quoting €4 per kg this week for R's + QA
That's at least €70/80 less per animal on two/three weeks ago. Makes a big difference to the small guy trying to farm part time. I know were all in the same boat but with small numbers there's little return.

tlandy

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Have your fresian got much ration/nuts and for how long

No meal got at all. FYI I sold them off the yard, weighed and all. Came in average 750kg or so each. I got €1.9/kg.

Sam Kade

I had a friesian cow go incalf to an Angus x friesian weanling bull a few years ago. She had an Angus bull calf that must have been 2/3 friesian 1/3 Angus, he was only about 25kg when born. I left him drinking his mother his entire life just short of 2 years, he never knew what ration was and never saw the inside of a shed until he arrived in the slaughter house. He killed out at 429kg carcass weight.

Sharpshooter82

bob charles wrote: »

Often have them over that. Neighbor asked me to take a bull to the factory for him recently as he couldnt get him into the car trailer:D, I squeezed him into a 12 X 6 trailer. The bull had to be weighed in quarters as the weigh scale zeroed when he was put on it. Bull was Deadweight of 820 kilos:eek:

Holy christ