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DCM Target time advice please?

  • 07-09-2013 12:57pm
    #1
    netmann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭


    Hi Folks,
    Looking for some advice on a target time for upcoming DCM. Its my second time doing it and did 3.58 2 years ago.

    This year have ran the following.
    10K 42.49 PB
    10M 1.12 PB
    Half 1.39.30 PB

    I've done a 19 Mile LSR and planning a 20 mile LSR tomorrow and planning 2 more before DCM. Doing in region of 30-50 miles per week.

    Hoping to beat my time from 2 years ago. Is that realistic and if so what should I aim for? All advice welcome.


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  • #2
    jonny99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭jonny99


    netmann wrote: »
    Hi Folks,
    Looking for some advice on a target time for upcoming DCM. Its my second time doing it and did 3.58 2 years ago.

    This year have ran the following.
    10K 42.49 PB
    10M 1.12 PB
    Half 1.39.30 PB

    I've done a 19 Mile LSR and planning a 20 mile LSR tomorrow and planning 2 more before DCM. Doing in region of 30-50 miles per week.

    Hoping to beat my time from 2 years ago. Is that realistic and if so what should I aim for? All advice welcome.

    Looks to me like you will easily beat that time.You look to be under 3.45 at least, with an outside shot at 3.30.I recall a 3.44 finish some years ago, when i was running 1.38ish for the half weeks earlier.Just my tuppence worth.


  • #3
    ThePiedPiper
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    3:40 should certainly be doable. On your 19 mile run tomorrow, run 6-8 miles of it at the projected pace for a 3:40 marathon, and see how you feel. If you go out at 3:40 pace (there's pacers for that time in the marathon), you may be able to push on in the later stages to get down closer to 3:35.


  • #4
    netmann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭netmann


    RunForestRun wrote: »
    3:40 should certainly be doable. On your 19 mile run tomorrow, run 6-8 miles of it at the projected pace for a 3:40 marathon, and see how you feel. If you go out at 3:40 pace (there's pacers for that time in the marathon), you may be able to push on in the later stages to get down closer to 3:35.

    Thanks for the advice. Is there defintiely 3:40 pacers? Last time I ran think there was only pacers for every 15 minutes so 3.30, 3.45, 4.00 etc. Would be very happy to hit a 3.40


  • #5
    netmann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭netmann


    jonny99 wrote: »
    Looks to me like you will easily beat that time.You look to be under 3.45 at least, with an outside shot at 3.30.I recall a 3.44 finish some years ago, when i was running 1.38ish for the half weeks earlier.Just my tuppence worth.

    Thanks for the advice.


  • #6
    ThePiedPiper
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    Netmann, they've changed it to 10 minute intervals this year, so yeah, pretty sure of that.


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  • #7
    Racman
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    There are various online calculators that are helpful. There are also some rules of thumb, useful as general indicators of where you should be aiming at.

    1. Three times your 10 mile time = 3.36

    2. Twice your half marathon time + 10 minutes = 3.29

    Depending on how well your training goes over the last few weeks, you should be well capable of getting under 3.40 and possibly even 3.30.


  • #8
    netmann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭netmann


    Racman wrote: »
    There are various online calculators that are helpful. There are also some rules of thumb, useful as general indicators of where you should be aiming at.

    1. Three times your 10 mile time = 3.36

    2. Twice your half marathon time + 10 minutes = 3.29

    Depending on how well your training goes over the last few weeks, you should be well capable of getting under 3.40 and possibly even 3.30.

    Thanks, I'd had a look at a couple of the online calculators but thought they were way too optimistic.


  • #9
    digger2d2
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    There are definitely 3:40 pacers and 3:50 in case you decide to be more conservative!


  • #10
    Trampas
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    digger2d2 wrote: »
    There are definitely 3:40 pacers and 3:50 in case you decide to be more conservative!

    Only thing is 2 different waves


  • #11
    digger2d2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭digger2d2


    Trampas wrote: »
    Only thing is 2 different waves

    Yep but easy for the OP to drop back a wave if needed


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  • #12
    JohnnyCrash
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    I had a 10k pb of 44.20 and a 10 mile pb of 74.44. Havnt raced a half but did 1.40 training. Did DCM last year in 3.31.20 and could have broken 3.30 if we had to be a bit cleverer.


  • #13
    netmann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭netmann


    JohnnyCrash wrote: »
    I had a 10k pb of 44.20 and a 10 mile pb of 74.44. Havnt raced a half but did 1.40 training. Did DCM last year in 3.31.20 and could have broken 3.30 if we had to be a bit cleverer.

    Thanks, thats food for thought although I've always felt a 3.30 was beyond me.


  • #14
    JohnnyCrash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 978 ✭✭✭JohnnyCrash


    netmann wrote: »
    Thanks, thats food for thought although I've always felt a 3.30 was beyond me.
    We did too. We were aiming for 3.45 but on the day we pushed on and kept reviewing the run at various points ie.10k, 10 mile,half,15 etc. Prob what helped us was all our training was done on hilly enough courses.Theres nothing flat of any great significance where we live,so,to run a marathon on a pretty flat course was a help:)


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