help/advice - understanding uPVC window specs?

pinwheel

Can anyone help?... Looking at uPVC windows - double glazed. We want a particular colour in the textured woodgrain finish, but we are a bit confused (& are worried that the people involved are playing on this in terms of pricing).

So - our builder priced a textured woodgrain finish in a 'dark colour'. We wanted to change the colour to white - but keep the textured woodgrain finish.

We have not been told what the orignal price was, but...

that a standard matte finish in white would be a total €400+VAT less than the original quote - for a 60ml width frame (assuming front to back) with an uninsulated frame.

that the textured woodgrain finish in white only comes in a 'new' 90ml width insulated frame - which would be a total €500+VAT MORE than the original price

but that we could 'upgrade' to a standard matte finish in white for no extra cost - which is no textured woodgrain but apparantly a 90ml width frame that is insulated


Questions:

Does this make sense - seem right?

If so, can anyone advise on the practical difference?

martinn123

pinwheel wrote: »

Can anyone help?... Looking at uPVC windows - double glazed. We want a particular colour in the textured woodgrain finish, but we are a bit confused (& are worried that the people involved are playing on this in terms of pricing).

So - our builder priced a textured woodgrain finish in a 'dark colour'. We wanted to change the colour to white - but keep the textured woodgrain finish.

We have not been told what the orignal price was, but...

that a standard matte finish in white would be a total €400+VAT less than the original quote - for a 60ml width frame (assuming front to back) with an uninsulated frame.

that the textured woodgrain finish in white only comes in a 'new' 90ml width insulated frame - which would be a total €500+VAT MORE than the original price

but that we could 'upgrade' to a standard matte finish in white for no extra cost - which is no textured woodgrain but apparantly a 90ml width frame that is insulated


Questions:

Does this make sense - seem right?

If so, can anyone advise on the practical difference?

A couple of points do not make total sense
Insulated/ uninsulated Frame,?? are you sure he did not say ''Reinforced''

White is usually Matt, or Gloss finish, the textured wood effect is usually in colours i.e Red, Green, Blue, etc, and Light Oak or Rosewood.
There is an Ivory Colour which would have a grain effect.

Get some samples from the builder, you seem to be taking him at his word.

The price differential, needs to be in context, how many windows/doors??

pinwheel

This in relation to 10 windows.

The sales guy definately said insulated/uninsulated frames - I repeated back to him for clarification as I wrote it down.

Also, he said the white woodgrain effect was available only in the 'new' 90ml insulated frames (matte finish in either 60 or 90).

The other issue is that he didn't say centre pane u value - but our architect's specs said should be .5 ... looking online it doesn't seem feasible the 60ml would meet this?! (But we are not experts.)

We did get samples from the company for some of the woodgrain colours (which we ruled out) - but not the white. From to-ing & fro-ing we are under pressure to choose asap for timing reasons.

Just get the sense we may not be getting the full picture....

Any help/advice very welcome. Thanks!

martinn123

pinwheel wrote: »

This in relation to 10 windows.

The sales guy definately said insulated/uninsulated frames - I repeated back to him for clarification as I wrote it down.

Also, he said the white woodgrain effect was available only in the 'new' 90ml insulated frames (matte finish in either 60 or 90).

The other issue is that he didn't say centre pane u value - but our architect's specs said should be .5 ... looking online it doesn't seem feasible the 60ml would meet this?! (But we are not experts.)

We did get samples from the company for some of the woodgrain colours (which we ruled out) - but not the white. From to-ing & fro-ing we are under pressure to choose asap for timing reasons.

Just get the sense we may not be getting the full picture....

Any help/advice very welcome. Thanks!

Had a quick look in 'Google' and a well known Co in Munster have a 90mm frame they refer to as insulated,bit of a Marketing Term,
If you're Arch has spec,d .5 as U value you won't get this with Double Glazing, also you refer to "centre pane" you should be looking at the U value of the window as a whole.
Do a search on this Forum for U value, and 90mm frames, I found a previous thread but can't post a link as I am on Ipad

pinwheel

Arch mentioned in specs double glazed and 'centre pane u value = .5 W/m' and 'selected woodgrain finish'. We just didn't know how to relate this to what is being ordered.... and how to judge the didn't know how to judge the price differential.

So, thanks for the tips! Will look at those other posts.