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Part time self employed

  • 05-09-2013 08:43PM
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 415 ✭✭


    hi,
    I've the opportunity to get a few days work - up to 8 days between now and October. But I have to invoice the organisation as a self employed person.

    Currently on Jobseekers Benefit - what's my options?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    On benefit you need to tell your local office how many days you have worked and they will deduct those days from your payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 The Quiff


    Hi, sorry for piggybacking on this thread but I'm in a very similar situation to the OP.

    I have taken up the offer of a few days work - about 12 to 16 days between now and the end of October/mid-November. But, like the OP, I have to invoice the organisation as a self-employed person, as opposed to being placed on the payroll. That's the way this particular company does things these days.

    I was on Jobseekers Allowance, and thought it would be a simple matter of informing my local office that I'd be doing 1 or 2 days a week for 8-10 weeks, getting a simple form filled out (which I did), and being placed on the "X's and O's".

    But because I'm being treated as self-employed, I now have to fill out a UP 1 (f) form (Information in relation to self-employment, most of which doesn't apply to my situation), and most likely register as a sole-trader with the revenue commission (which I looked into and seems like a lot of hassle for the sake of the few days short-term work I'm getting).

    So, any advice on how I should proceed? Can I choose not to register with the revenue commission, or is this a non-negotiable requirement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    You have to register as a sole trader with revenue.

    If you don't revenue could come back to you and say you are not tax compliant - it's potentially breaking the law otherwise

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 The Quiff


    Thanks for the reply, mango salsa.

    I guess I'll have to go ahead and do that then, even though I won't earn enough to pay any tax in the few days I'll be working.

    But I understand the requirement to do so, and the consequences of not doing it.

    I had read up on it before posting here, but was hoping there was a way out of it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 415 ✭✭johnmck


    does that mean that once you do this they'll just cut you off?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 The Quiff


    No, johnmck. I should still qualify for some portion of Jobseeker's Allowance subject to a means test as laid out here:

    http://selfemployedsupports.ie/ja_and_self_employment.en.html

    As you're on Jobseeker's Benefit, your situation is a little different to mine. Have a read through this:

    http://selfemployedsupports.ie/jb_and_self_employment.en.html

    and the overview here:

    http://selfemployedsupports.ie/overview_sw.en.html

    and see if you can make sense of it as it applies to you.


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