Primary School Resource Teacher Pay?

boatbuilder

Hi, my wife has just today landed a job as a Part Time Resource Teacher in a primary school (3.75 hrs per week) but we have no idea what the pay will be or how it will be calculated. Can anyone clarify it a bit for us please?

She is originally from the UK and taught in primary schools over there for many years before moving to Ireland a few years ago when we got married.
This will be her first job in Ireland of any kind!

She has to go to sign the contract tomorrow so it would be great to have a heads up on what the pay situation should be.

Thanks!!

Cailin CoisFarraige

Is your wife a qualified teacher registered with the Teaching Council of Ireland?

boatbuilder

Cailin CoisFarraige wrote: »

Is your wife a qualified teacher registered with the Teaching Council of Ireland?

She is qualified in uk as a teacher...She's still jumping through the teaching council hoops but has been offered the job anyway. She met the principal again today but no mention of how the pay works.

boatbuilder

Anyone got any ideas here?

dory

boatbuilder wrote: »

Anyone got any ideas here?

I'm guess she's getting paid pro-rata. So then do a bit of dividing and find out what percentage of the fill time hours in 3.75.

But if it's a substitution contract then it's paid by the hour. We need more info tbh!

Cailin CoisFarraige

It's hard to calculate when she's not a registered teacher. She'll be paid as an unqualified teacher. Also, the new rules mean that she may not get paid at all unless she's registered with the Teaching Council, so she should really get that sorted as soon as possible.

boatbuilder

dory wrote: »

I'm guess she's getting paid pro-rata. So then do a bit of dividing and find out what percentage of the fill time hours in 3.75.

But if it's a substitution contract then it's paid by the hour. We need more info tbh!

Its not a substitution contract, its a part time resource teacher contract from now up to 31st august 2014.
If its pro rata I presume she is starting at some point on the scale? And would it be the same scale as a normal primary teacher or is there a different one for resource teachers?

Cailin CoisFarraige

Resource teachers work on the same scale as mainstream class teachers, however as I said above, if your wife's qualification is not yet registered with the teaching council, she will probably be earning less.

Miss Lockhart

Is she TC registered so she can get paid? Or is it a privately paid position?

I thought resource teachers were allocated across a cluster of schools so such low hours would be unusual.

boatbuilder

She is registered in the UK as a teacher and has a degree in education from the UK.

She just paid the €290 to the Irish Teaching Council last week and sent in her application. The school was happy to offer her the position even though the teaching council registration is still being processed.

Anyone have an idea of how to do the pro-rata calculation? For example if she was on point 3 of the scale?

boatbuilder

So would this calculation be on the right track for a Part-Time Resource Teacher on an RPT contract?

Based on point 1 of the scale €30702 / 26.09 / 25 = €47.07 per hour

Geologyrocks

I'm not sure why you are dividing these numbers? Do primary teachers teach 25 hours per wk (full time)? If so you should be dividing 30,702 by 52 to get a weeks pay (=590e), then divide this by 25 to get the hourly rate =25e per hour.Then multiply this value by the amount of hours she is working,

As other people have said, regardless if she is registered in the UK, it makes no difference here. No registration = no pay/or paid at the unqualified rate .

boatbuilder

I got those figures from here.... http://www.education.ie/en/Education-Staff/Information/Payroll-Financial-Information/Part-Time-Teachers-FAQ.html

It says you divide by 26.09 to get the fortnightly rate and then divide by 25. 26.09 is roughly half of 52 so that makes sense, but I'm not sure why you then divide by 25.

Geologyrocks

well id be pretty sure that the 25 hours is what a wholetime primary teacher works. If this is the case your maths are wrong. Its approx 25 per hour.
30,702 /52= 590 (the weekly salary of a WT teacher)
590/25= 23.61 (the hourly rate)
23.61*3.75=88.5 (what your wife will make per week)
88.5*2= 177 (what she will get in her forthnighly pay)

I think you got mixed up with the fact that we are paid forthnightly and made the mistake of dividing by 26 rather than 52 so got a higher hourly rate.

BTW, how many years experience in UK does she have? This will account towards increments. There is a form on the department ed website.

Miss Lockhart

boatbuilder wrote: »

She is registered in the UK as a teacher and has a degree in education from the UK.

She just paid the €290 to the Irish Teaching Council last week and sent in her application. The school was happy to offer her the position even though the teaching council registration is still being processed.

Just be careful that this gets sorted soon. From November 1st you must be TC registered go be paid from Department funds.

boatbuilder

Well, my wife has now been working in two primary schools for a month and a half doing one to one resource teaching and also some supply days teaching half the school when the principal is at meetings or whatever. Pay is being withheld until UK police clearance comes back (although they seem perfectly happy to let her teach without it). We still have no idea how much she will be paid.
Nobody seems to have a clue.

By the way, can't find any form to recognise her UK teaching experience and no one has mentionned it in the schools..... I'd guess she has 7 or 8 years experience at the very least.

rainbowtrout

boatbuilder wrote: »

Well, my wife has now been working in two primary schools for a month and a half doing one to one resource teaching and also some supply days teaching half the school when the principal is at meetings or whatever. Pay is being withheld until UK police clearance comes back (although they seem perfectly happy to let her teach without it). We still have no idea how much she will be paid.
Nobody seems to have a clue.

By the way, can't find any form to recognise her UK teaching experience and no one has mentionned it in the schools..... I'd guess she has 7 or 8 years experience at the very least.

There may not be a specific form, I'm not an expert on this but I would imagine if she is being paid for this position by the Dept of Ed, that to recognise her prior teaching experience they would look for some documentation from the UK that demonstrates that. From the UK Dept of Ed, or whoever paid her.

boatbuilder

We're now thinking resource teachers get 44.33 per hour and 164.24 per day for supply work. Time will tell.