Paranoid parenting or being smart?

clairefontaine

This article has a compelling argument for never ever posting anything about your kids on social media. No pictures, no information nothing.

I have shared the odd picture but decided about two years ago not to, simply because I do to understand and therefore cannot control the the consequences of the technology. It's one thing to play with my own privacy but another do play with a child's, who has no control over it.

One of my reasons for caution is because I have no idea to what extent up the road, these things will become available to future employers, educators, etc. it's not that I live in fear, it's mostly a just in case and because I dont understand technology well enough.

What do you guys think? Is this article paranoid or sensible?

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/data_mine_1/2013/09/facebook_privacy_and_kids_don_t_post_photos_of_your_kids_online.html

TwoShedsJackson

Pretty paranoid I'd say, but the over-riding reason you shouldn't post anything about your kids online is that no-one else gives a fu<k how cute you think they are, or what colour their last bowel movement was, or any other damn thing.

WE DON'T CARE.

anncoates

No way am I giving a job to somebody who posed for a picture with soap suds on their head when they were 2.

Maximus Alexander

This article is clearly written by someone who is sick to death of having their social media feeds clogged to the gills with pictures of their friends' kids with chocolate smeared all over their faces. Bravo.

wazky

I don't want to see other peoples snotty nosed chaps so who wants to see mine?.

anncoates

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

This article is clearly written by someone who is sick to death of having their social media feeds clogged to the gills with pictures of their friends' kids with chocolate smeared all over their faces. Bravo.

If she can't figure out the simple rudiments of hiding the posters from the FB news feed - or even just hiding their photos - she deserves to be "sick to death".

Maximus Alexander

anncoates wrote: »

If she can't figure out the simple rudiments of hiding the posters from the FB news feed - or even just hiding their photos - she deserves to be "sick to death".

I never said she was smart.

Amirani

I don't put photos of myself on facebook for the most part, I'm unlikely to put any of my kids when they eventually come along. Partly because of the whole privacy thing, partly because nobody gives a toss anyway.

clairefontaine

NiallSparky wrote: »

I don't put photos of myself on facebook for the most part, I'm unlikely to put any of my kids when they eventually come along. Partly because of the whole privacy thing, partly because nobody gives a toss anyway.

I don't like it either but we have a lot of friends and family who are in different countries and very different time zones, so it seems like a convenient way to keep things connected. And cheaper than printing photos and posting them.

iguana

I think that you just have to be sensible about it. Whenever I post up a picture of my son I think about how I would have felt at 14 if it was me and that photo was shown to my class. If I would have been ok with it, it's fine. If I would have been mortified then no way does it go up.

As for people not wanting to see baby photos, they are free to not look. But I love seeing pictures of my friends and family members' children and I'm not alone in that. Way better than photos of what people had for dinner anyway.

Duggy747

As soon as some of the people I know have a baby the wall cover, profile picture, all following uploaded pictures, status, links, shares all revolve around babies.

*shudder*

dj jarvis

has no one ever heard of privacy settings ?

you can have it set up that only certain people can view or share them,

its that fecking simple :rolleyes:

I find it a great thing being able to share my kids photos with people that i KNOW would want to see them , family and friends abroad

People are just so snobbish and paranoid about FB , dont like it ? then stop using it - anyway one simple rule with ALL digital communications , you want total privacy and control ? then dont post anything you would not want anyone to see

It could not be any simpler than that.

TheBegotten

Interesting concept in the whole online meta-account, but to be honest the whole thing is a bit paranoid. What I always say is the internet is a condensed reflection of society, at your fingertips. The fault I find in all the Ask.fm bashing, "facebook made my daughter kill herself" type drivel is that this is what society is like anyway: the internet just delivers it straight to you.
At the same time, the whole world doesn't need to know just how wasted you were last Saturday.

Cienciano

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Pretty paranoid I'd say, but the over-riding reason you shouldn't post anything about your kids online is that no-one else gives a fu<k how cute you think they are, or what colour their last bowel movement was, or any other damn thing.

WE DON'T CARE.

Speak for yourself. I have loads of friends living abroad, it's great being able to see how they're getting on with their kids.

keith16

Cienciano wrote: »

Speak for yourself. I have loads of friends living abroad, it's great being able to see how they're getting on with their kids.

Some people post way too much stuff tho, inappropriate even.

Think the article has a very good point. Stuff like this could lead to a kind of behavioural credit score and as technology improves, so does the potential ways in which the info can be used / misused.

If someone wants to see a pic of my son, they get a copy by private email.

hardCopy

NiallSparky wrote: »

I don't put photos of myself on facebook for the most part, I'm unlikely to put any of my kids when they eventually come along. Partly because of the whole privacy thing, partly because nobody gives a toss anyway.

What baffles me is the people who don't post any pictures of themselves but use their kids as their profile picture.

They're obviously shy enough or concerned enough about privacy to avoid putting up pictures of themselves, yet their kids get no choice in the matter.

Legs.Eleven

I have a good friend at home who wouldn't use Facebook very much and is very against putting any photos of her son up. One of her good friends is an up and coming star in the UK (Irish girl) and visited her a few months and put the photo of the two of them plus the baby on her fan page of all places (just checked, she has around 6300 likes on her page right now)! All hell broke lose. Felt really sorry for my friend.

Catphish

The parents themselves could learn a thing or two from this video directed at children about online awareness. If the parents haven't a clue about privacy and the extent of how serious this issue is, how can they properly inform and guide their children?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o8auwnJtqE

beauf

Most people don't know how the privacy setting work, and even those that do get caught out when Facebook change how it all works. The changes never hide information they always default to sharing more. They use little tricks to get your information. I dislike a product/company that operates like that.

anncoates

hardCopy wrote: »

They're obviously shy enough or concerned enough about privacy to avoid putting up pictures of themselves, yet their kids get no choice in the matter.

It's abuse of the chisellers, so it is Joe.

Is that article not by the same nutter who wrote an article about how she keeps track of everything that her child does and had a spread sheet of her kids bowel movements.

While I agree that people are far too public with their lives and find the constant need by people to document their every waking hour annoying there's no need to go to the extremes that that writer went to. To google possible names to see what comes up just strikes me as a little mad and a whole lot of sad. I'm all for parents copping on and not exposing their kids to the internet but the women who wrote that article comes across like a paranoid idiot.

MadsL

Bill Hicks wrote:

Here’s another idea that should be punctured, the idea that childbirth is a miracle. I don’t know who started this rumor but it’s not a miracle. No more a miracle than eating food and a turd coming out of your butt. It’s a chemical reaction and a biological reaction. You want to know a miracle? A miracle is raising a kid that doesn’t talk in a ****ing movie theater … I’ll go you one further, and this is the routine that has virtually ended my career in America. If you have children here tonight—and I assume some of you do—I am sorry to tell you this. They are not special. I’ll let that sink in. Don’t get me wrong, folks. I know you think they’re special. You think that. I’m telling you—they’re not. Did you know that every time a guy comes, he comes 200 million sperm? Did you know that? And you mean to tell me you think your child is special? Because one out of 200 million sperm connected … that load? Gee, what are the ****ing odds? Do you know what that means? I have wiped entire civilizations off of my chest, with a grey gym sock. That is special. Entire nations have flaked and crusted in the hair around my navel. That is special. And I want you to think about that, you two-egg-carrying beings out there with that holier-than-thou, we-have-the-gift-of-life attitude. I have tossed universes, in my underpants, while napping. That is special.

The word of Bill Hicks. Thanks be to Bill Hicks.

Amen.

clairefontaine

Someone could make a fortune out of parenting and technology classes.

MadsL

clairefontaine wrote: »

Someone could make a fortune out of parenting and technology classes.

Boy - don't let em near til they are eighteen in case they fap themselves to death.
Girl - open access except for facebook.


Problem?

Caonima

There's a problem in China where some parents who posted photos of their babies on social networks had abduction attempts made on the children. Many children are kidnapped or abducted here every year and either sold or kept in slavery. It's generally advised over here to not post pictures of your offspring on social networks now, but sadly many people still do. Some of the networks that are on phones also tell you how close you are to the person who has the account (to within about ~100m) making it easier for thieves to locate people.

clairefontaine

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/09/media-elite-making-twitter-accounts-for-children.html

And then we have the other end of the spectrum. Twitter accounts for babies.

Caonima

clairefontaine wrote: »

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/09/media-elite-making-twitter-accounts-for-children.html

And then we have the other end of the spectrum. Twitter accounts for babies.

Hashtag# incontinent and amorphous blob that looks like every other one of me

clairefontaine

Caonima wrote: »

Hashtag# incontinent and amorphous blob that looks like every other one of me

Narcism by proxy. What is wrong with these people?

It makes me want to turn Amish.

Caonima

clairefontaine wrote: »

Narcism by proxy. What is wrong with these people?

Social parasites with too much free time on their hands, I guess. Like the sort of people who shove photos of their offspring in your face when you talk to them.

Well, I don't see it being any different to giving your dog or hamster a Twitter account. You'll get zero communication from it.

Cienciano

keith16 wrote: »

Some people post way too much stuff tho, inappropriate even.

Think the article has a very good point. Stuff like this could lead to a kind of behavioural credit score and as technology improves, so does the potential ways in which the info can be used / misused.

If someone wants to see a pic of my son, they get a copy by private email.

Some people post way to much stuff period. Kids or not. People sharing crap pictures thinking they might win something are worse. Haven't seen anything inappropriate myself.
The article in the OP is scaremongering. The writer focuses on photos of the kid in a bikini and in the bath. The Daily Mail would be proud

professore

Don't worry once they get to 12 (girls st least) they will post ridiculous pictures and poses of themselves on facebook for the world to see.

Ms2011

I put up some pics of my son on FB, usually when we've had a day out or things like him getting his first shoes as my parents live in another county so do see these things first hand.
I was horrified to see during the recent heatwave that a friend had posted pics of her one year old little girl playing in a paddling pool with just a short top on, no nappy etc. Innocent enough in the privacy of your own back garden but totally inappropriate to post on social media imo.

Duckjob

TwoShedsJackson wrote: »

Pretty paranoid I'd say, but the over-riding reason you shouldn't post anything about your kids online is that no-one else gives a fu<k how cute you think they are, or what colour their last bowel movement was, or any other damn thing.

WE DON'T CARE.

Silly post, in fairness.

Some people go overboard with FB and their kid photos for sure, but sharing pictures of family events with friends and family who are living in different counties (and who DO care ) is probably the only genuinely useful function of FB. Certainly more of a point to that than the ludicrous "just about to have a nice bath" or "can't sleep" status updates.

I dont use it personally- if I'm sending photos of my young one to family I'll use skype/email etc, because I'm not entirely comfortable with the privacy aspects of FB. Also, I have issues with other people plastering photos (not anything scandalous) that I happen to be in all over FB, so I'm not about to plaster photos of my daughter up when she has no say in the matter.

Eight Ball

Facebook is sh1t. That is all.

Duckjob

Ms2011 wrote: »

I put up some pics of my son on FB, usually when we've had a day out or things like him getting his first shoes as my parents live in another county so do see these things first hand.
I was horrified to see during the recent heatwave that a friend had posted pics of her one year old little girl playing in a paddling pool with just a short top on, no nappy etc. Innocent enough in the privacy of your own back garden but totally inappropriate to post on social media imo.

I dont use Facebook much, mainly because I find it brings out the raving idiot in people.